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Old 30th Dec 2017, 13:40
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Jerry,


If you're actually 18 y/o, you might want to check into the age requirement for an FAA ATPL.

US regional pay is available on each carrier's hiring website page. Take home pay is variable owing to state income taxes; some have them and some don't.
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I’m a bit more than 18...my name isn’t Jerry Springer either..but I suppose your real name is not bafanguy? thanks again. Happy 2018
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Old 30th Dec 2017, 13:56
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Ak ok, thanks...so really it would be an hour-building exercise for people wanting Jet time, and then to move back out of the USA - rather than a partway onto a Major Airline within the USA?
Pity no Green Card! Personally Iíd love to try aim at a multi-engine Fixed-Wing Fire Fighting Job, but I donít suppose they issue E3 visas for FOs on such aircraft?
Still, Jet time in an Airline might be worth pursuing!

What salary are Aussies currently on the visa with Regionals taking home?
Cheers...and thanks for the info.
If you include my signing bonus and working a bunch of OT I earned about 90k USD in my first year as FO at a regional. Iíve been working for the company for 14 months now and Iím just about to hit my 1000 hours part 121 required for upgrade, Iíll be upgrading in feb/mar.

As for fire fighting gigs I doubt you meet the contract requirements. USFS contracts require time in type as PIC, Ďxí amount of bombing time, time spent mountain flying etc. I used to fly fire fighting helicopters on USFS contracts prior to switching back to the fixed wing world. Private companies with fire contracts do employ Aussies on E3 visas however you have to be a walk up starter contract wise without requiring anything other than a DOI carding ride. Any of the US forestry, calfire type government gigs require citizenship for any federal job.

Do you have any AG time in an 802 air tractor? Thatís a good start for getting into fixed wing fire world. The company here in the US that I flew B212 and B412ís for in fires had their 802 fixed wing pilots on $1000USD/day + per diem +$500/Flight hour flown on a 12 day on 2 day off roster.

Iím here in the US on a green card (wife is American), so I do have a pathway to a major here.

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Old 30th Dec 2017, 14:14
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
...my name isnít Jerry Springer either..
I don't recall commenting on your screen name. I believe someone else did that.

Your info said 18 y/o so I was merely trying to provide a friendly heads up to an FAA requirement that would affect an 18 y/o person but may not have jumped off a page at you.
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Old 30th Dec 2017, 14:22
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Originally Posted by havick

Do you have any AG time in an 802 air tractor? Thatís a good start for getting into fixed wing fire world. The company here in the US that I flew B212 and B412ís for in fires had their 802 fixed wing pilots on $1000USD/day + per diem +$500/Flight hour flown on a 12 day on 2 day off roster.

Iím here in the US on a green card (wife is American), so I do have a pathway to a major here.
Thanks for the info...I have just a few hours AG...no 802 time...Low Level experience via mustering in QLD, Mountain Time from bush flying in the Yukon, Canada.
I have 7,000 hours total time, several thousand hours turbine amphibious float time, including 500 hours on Twin Otters on floats (Maldives). I have an FAA ATP.
Without the 802 time, and only a few hours Ag, I canít get a job on a Fireboss - though I do have ample float time for it...hence in terms of firebombing, probably only an FO on a multi-crew aircraft would be open to me (and probably not even that, unfortunately!)

My current long-term job might be coming to an end, hence Iím looking around for other opportunities.
90k is great as an FO...Iíd be interested in pursuing that, just a pity it would not lead onto anything in the USA beyond that for me - given the Green Card situation.
Iím in my mid 40s...too old for a regional in the USA?

Well done on you soon to be upgrade!
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
I don't recall commenting on your screen name. I believe someone else did that.

Your info said 18 y/o so I was merely trying to provide a friendly heads up to an FAA requirement that would affect an 18 y/o person but may not have jumped off a page at you.
Thanks dude. I tried in my profile to delete the age, but I don’t see how...I don’t like giving websites my personal info, so I must have just punched any date in when I made my profile years ago.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
Thanks for the info...I have just a few hours AG...no 802 time...Low Level experience via mustering in QLD, Mountain Time from bush flying in the Yukon, Canada.
I have 7,000 hours total time, several thousand hours turbine amphibious float time, including 500 hours on Twin Otters on floats (Maldives). I have an FAA ATP.
Without the 802 time, and only a few hours Ag, I canít get a job on a Fireboss - though I do have ample float time for it...hence in terms of firebombing, probably only an FO on a multi-crew aircraft would be open to me (and probably not even that, unfortunately!)

My current long-term job might be coming to an end, hence Iím looking around for other opportunities.
90k is great as an FO...Iíd be interested in pursuing that, just a pity it would not lead onto anything in the USA beyond that for me - given the Green Card situation.
Iím in my mid 40s...too old for a regional in the USA?

Well done on you soon to be upgrade!
Funnily enough the fire contracts donít really care for your float time at all its all about time on type and experience on fires already etc
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Originally Posted by havick
Funnily enough the fire contracts don’t really care for your float time at all its all about time on type and experience on fires already etc
I think that depends on the operator, and maybe even the country. A friend of mine in Canada got onto a Fireboss with no Ag rating, no time on type, no fire experience...But he had several thousand hours on floats. The company tried out several people scooping up water from a lake in a duel 802 Fireboss, and only the float dudes got hired as new chaps. For the CL-415 / 215 they also require float time. Anyhow, That’s all a bit off-topic I suppose!
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
Iím in my mid 40s...too old for a regional in the USA?
I doubt that'd be a problem.
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Originally Posted by havick
I earned about 90k USD in my first year as FO at a .
Do you mind saying which airline that is with?
From what I saw an a website, the Regionals only pay about $40 an hour for an FO, with 75 hours guaranteed. So thatís only $3,000 a month. Or is that $40 on top of a base pay? Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
From what I saw an a website, the Regionals only pay about $40 an hour for an FO, with 75 hours guaranteed. So that’s only $3,000 a month. Or is that $40 on top of a base pay?
If you haven't seen this website, it might help your research (assuming the info is accurate and up to date):

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional

This page shows when the info was updated:

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...dated_airlines

And the requirements to act as PIC under Part 121:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/121.436

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Old 30th Dec 2017, 20:12
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
Do you mind saying which airline that is with?
From what I saw an a website, the Regionals only pay about $40 an hour for an FO, with 75 hours guaranteed. So thatís only $3,000 a month. Or is that $40 on top of a base pay? Thanks again.
I fly for one of the regionals that is wholly owned by American Airlines, they require a green card.

I flew about 800 odd hours in my first year but created nearly double that in pay, plus per diem while away from base, Plus a $22k signing bonus.

Skywest is the best option for quick jet hours on an E3 visa and Piedmont is a better option for AA travel benefits and better pay and quicker upgrade, plus if you can eventually get yourself a green card (somehow) youíre in the queue already to flow through to mainline AA, thought Piedmont is severely backlogged in training and guys are taking 4-8 months to hit the line after starting.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
I think that depends on the operator, and maybe even the country. A friend of mine in Canada got onto a Fireboss with no Ag rating, no time on type, no fire experience...But he had several thousand hours on floats. The company tried out several people scooping up water from a lake in a duel 802 Fireboss, and only the float dudes got hired as new chaps. For the CL-415 / 215 they also require float time. Anyhow, Thatís all a bit off-topic I suppose!
That may be in true in Canada, but in the US any pilot flying on a USFS/BLM/DOI contract must meet the minimums that cannot be waived. Hence why fixed wing fire pilots are making the money they do.
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Thanks for the info...Does any airline in Alaska hire Aussies with the E3 Visa...I just really love Alaska, a base there would be awesome!
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Thanks for the info...Does any airline in Alaska hire Aussies with the E3 Visa...I just really love Alaska, a base there would be awesome!
Horizon maybe, why donít you email some of them and ask?
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Originally Posted by havick
Horizon maybe, why donít you email some of them and ask?
I will, just updating my resume, meanwhile itís great to get information from chaps like you in the know - such as your comment, "Skywest is the best option for quick jet hours on an E3 visa and Piedmont is a better option for AAĒ
Good to hear who I should aim for (or keep away from!) before contact.
Know anything about Horizon, a good choice? Thanks again for you assistance.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
I will, just updating my resume, meanwhile itís great to get information from chaps like you in the know - such as your comment, "Skywest is the best option for quick jet hours on an E3 visa and Piedmont is a better option for AAĒ
Good to hear who I should aim for (or keep away from!) before contact.
Know anything about Horizon, a good choice? Thanks again for you assistance.
I have no idea about them at all, just know theyíre in Alaska.

Skywest has a contract with Alaska so you might find yourself flying e175ís for them under the banner of Alaska.
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Originally Posted by havick
Horizon maybe, why donít you email some of them and ask?
It's my understanding that Horizon is closing their Anchorage base. that would leave Ravn and Peninsula Airways as the remaining "Regional" airlines with bases in AK.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
...I donít like giving websites my personal info...

Good idea. So, give us some more of your personal info

When was the last time you "exercised the privileges of" your FAA ATPL and in what operation...91, 135, 121 ? That could influence how quickly you'd upgrade should you take a run at a US regional.

And you have the new plastic credit card edition of it, right ? The paper version became invalid several years ago.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer
Iím in my mid 40s...too old for a regional in the USA?
I know of two widebody Captains who joined the regionals recently. Both are around 60 and retired from overseas airlines to have some fun flying regional jets in the USA. So, no, mid 40's is not too old.
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