Australian pilots can work for US regionals.

[Fuel-Off]

The culture comes from CASA not the pilots

And an industrial landscape where Australian airline management policy is to actively exploit the absence of scope clauses and where there is no more than 3% in base wage increases. Meanwhile our brothers and sisters at Delta just signed off on a 36% improvement on their current contract (and the other majors are not that far off behind). All air carriers in the US that hire E3s have seen wage increases greater than the paltry 3% offered in Australia.

Food for thought considering the jump across the pond...

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[halfmoon]

Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc

National has way over 18% Aussie, I’m guessing around 60 %. I have also heard that Atlas have over 500 Aussies.

I think K4 is about 60-70 E3s. That would put them at about 8% approx of the pilot group.

[umop apisdn]

Originally Posted by halfmoon

I think K4 is about 60-70 E3s. That would put them at about 8% approx of the pilot group.

How is Kalitta? I don't hear much about it.

[bafanguy]

Originally Posted by umop apisdn

How is Kalitta? I don't hear much about it.

You may have seen this but here is some info. More in the Cargo forum of APC:

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/k...aily-life.html

[Gnadenburg]

Just for those interested in Atlas, found an email in my junk from a few weeks ago inviting me to phone interview. Hopefully recruitment moving ahead again. I’ve already signed elsewhere. 😊

[KAPAC]

After experiencing a 500 page COS , good remuneration and airlines that actually try to make life easier , could it be hard to come back to the opposite in Australia ?

[ZebraFlyer]

Originally Posted by KAPAC

After experiencing a 500 page COS , good remuneration and airlines that actually try to make life easier , could it be hard to come back to the opposite in Australia ?

Unless something catastrophic happens, I will never participate in Aussie aviation again.

[cxflog]

I hope it’s a wake up call, the industry needs a good kick up the old backside to shock then into gear and this is probably the best chance.

[davidclarke]

Originally Posted by cxflog

I hope it’s a wake up call, the industry needs a good kick up the old backside to shock then into gear and this is probably the best chance.

This requires strong union membership, and more importantly a strong union. We have neither…….
This can change however, but will require a new approach from the unions…..

[morno]

Originally Posted by ZebraFlyer

Unless something catastrophic happens, I will never participate in Aussie aviation again.

I’ve met many people who have said words to that effect. Myself included. Guess what, they’ve all at some point had to or chose to come back.

Don’t be naive to think that you won’t find yourself in that position one day….

[Gnadenburg]

That’s somewhat officious Morno. It was stated only catastrophic circumstances would bring him home. I know hundreds who said similar- and only a pandemic brought them back ( once the Bogans opened the borders )

[morno]

And I was implying that he could find himself in non catastrophic conditions where he needs to.

Depends on your definition of catastrophic I guess

[tossbag]

I’ve met many people who have said words to that effect. Myself included. Guess what, they’ve all at some point had to or chose to come back.

You're in a different category to those in the States. A significant number of Australians were NOT furloughed during the biggest catastrophe aviation has seen so far.

[Climb150]

[QUOTE=abaderrr;11399573]

Originally Posted by Climb150

Making stuff up 😂.

"Restarted" is one part of it, so already a number of E3's at Atlas prior to the current wave. Now consider the Australians on the 777, 767 and even 737 courses. Courses are being run every two weeks, and my 747 course alone had 25 in it, 18 of whom were Australian

Not guestimating nor giving an opinion. It's factual.

So HR finally got back to me. Atlas has given out 164 E3s. Not all have started and some already left. Just a fraction less than 500 it seems. Argue all you want but that's the number from HR.

[WannaBeBiggles]

Originally Posted by Climb150

So HR finally got back to me. Atlas has given out 164 E3s. Not all have started and some already left. Just a fraction less than 500 it seems. Argue all you want but that's the number from HR.

I'd hazard a guess that HR took some creative licence with the figures and gave you the figures for this year, not total. One need only got down to the BBQ area at Home2, or walk around the RI Marriott or Doral to find that number. Last year saw 74 class sizes of 30-40 people per intake, with 2-3 classes per month. A huge percentage were Australian, let alone the 777 intakes. 767 and 737 only usually had 1 or 2 per intake.

Maybe chat to the union, there is now an international affairs committee so I'm sure they'll happily provide you with the figures they have.

[SIDS N STARS]

I don't have the exact figures, but if you want to estimate, conservatively speaking, 80 new joiners/month? 50% are E-3?.. Its not unbelievable to think there's 500+ if you go back to the start of last year

[abaderrr]

[QUOTE=Climb150;11406192]

Originally Posted by abaderrr

So HR finally got back to me. Atlas has given out 164 E3s. Not all have started and some already left. Just a fraction less than 500 it seems. Argue all you want but that's the number from HR.

Envy your enthusiasm and persistence to win an internet argument, to go to the effort of emailing HR. As the above have suggested, they've either got the figures wrong or grossly misunderstood the question. Happy to have a healthy wager that figure is short by a least a few hundred.

[umop apisdn]

Guys can we just agree that there are a lot of E3s at Atlas? I would have thought y'all are too busy drinking lemonade, enjoying that paid commute and gallivanting around the world in business class to engage in such pettiness.

[kjvmw]

Agree with the above. Surely there are better things to do with your time then debate online the amount of E3s at Atlas lol

[SIDS N STARS]

I don't think anyone cares what the figure actually is, its just a good topic of discussion... Is it possible that Atlas could be one of the largest employers of AU pilots outside of Australia?..