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Old 26th Jul 2023, 13:51
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
Understand...to your knowledge, is Spirit taking any Aussies on an initial E3 without FAA tickets ?
The Aussies I’ve seen recently out of training all came from existing 121/135 outfits with an FAA ATP in hand.
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Old 26th Jul 2023, 15:45
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Originally Posted by cxflog
The Aussies I’ve seen recently out of training all came from existing 121/135 outfits with an FAA ATP in hand.

Thanks. I thought that might be the case.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 00:26
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Who was it that said legacy airlines in the US would never hire or sponsor foreigner? Mic drop…..

FYI the above was posted on LinkedIn by one of the American Airlines recruiters.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 00:36
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Originally Posted by havick

Who was it that said legacy airlines in the US would never hire or sponsor foreigner? Mic drop…..

FYI the above was posted on LinkedIn by one of the American Airlines recruiters.
If you listen to the podcast It explicitly says they do not sponsor pilots as they consider American airlines to be a destination airline so you must have a passport or green card
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 00:48
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Another tax question. Did any of you venturing Stateside claim your ATP training with the ATO? I guess the pool of pilots paying Aussie tax relatively small but I think it’s feasible especially if you have an employment contract signed prior. I know-ask an accountant. I have three but none yet who specialise in US/AU taxation.

For those working two weeks on two weeks off and an Australian tax resident, ATO Taxation Determination (TD2018/11) could offer dramatic tax liability reductions.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 01:13
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Originally Posted by Brakerider
If you listen to the podcast It explicitly says they do not sponsor pilots as they consider American airlines to be a destination airline so you must have a passport or green card
Currently eating my hat as we speak.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 01:14
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
Another tax question. Did any of you venturing Stateside claim your ATP training with the ATO? I guess the pool of pilots paying Aussie tax relatively small but I think it’s feasible especially if you have an employment contract signed prior. I know-ask an accountant. I have three but none yet who specialise in US/AU taxation.

For those working two weeks on two weeks off and an Australian tax resident, ATO Taxation Determination (TD2018/11) could offer dramatic tax liability reductions.
What would someone claim? The carriers thy hire Aussies on E3’s carry out the ATP conversion as part of their training. There’s nothing out of pocket.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 02:00
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Big 3 contract comparisons

Aerocrew has a side-by-side of the big 3 if anyone is wondering what's going on uptown.

https://aerocrewnews.com/comparison/...-EQ0IqOLfL43WU
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 02:06
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
Another tax question. Did any of you venturing Stateside claim your ATP training with the ATO?
Wouldn't that basically be the same as the ol' 'claim the endorsement cost on your tax' no no in years past.

I believe the tax residency issue is far more complex nowadays too than simply time in country. A host of other inputs are used to determine whether you do infact have 'significat ties' to Australia, and a thus treated as a resident for tax purposes.

Disc: I've never paid for an endorsement or worked in a country I haven't lived.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 02:15
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Originally Posted by havick
What would someone claim? The carriers thy hire Aussies on E3’s carry out the ATP conversion as part of their training. There’s nothing out of pocket.
This is not accurate.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 02:18
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Originally Posted by Lapon
Wouldn't that basically be the same as the ol' 'claim the endorsement cost on your tax' no no in years past.

I believe the tax residency issue is far more complex nowadays too than simply time in country. A host of other inputs are used to determine whether you do infact have 'significat ties' to Australia, and a thus treated as a resident for tax purposes.

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Thanks but I’m well aware of taxation residency in Australia and don’t go to H&R Block for residency status.

ATP is not an endorsement and is training. I think there’s better grounds for claiming this on tax but it looks like there’s few it affects anyways.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 04:08
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This is not accurate.
How is it not accurate? Every carrier that I know of that has hired E3’s puts every person through the relevant courses and atp ride on the company dime.

Can you elaborate what isn’t accurate?
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 06:00
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It’s not accurate because there is one, arguably two, E3 sponsoring freight carriers that require an ATP before starting.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 06:45
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I believe Atlas will provide your FAA conversion using a light twin somewhere, the cost about $5300 USD, no out of pocket expenses if you choose this option.

If you have Boeing or Airbus experience, you can use an Airbus or Boeing sim and get the rating put on your FAA licence. Atlas will cover the first $5300 and the applicant will have to cover the rest, around $2500 USD.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 07:21
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I’m a bit late to this thread, but perhaps US citizens on near can honestly tell us how us Aussies are view as we come over to fill “the void” with freight carriers etc. , It can’t be all HOWDY & ALLOHA, or am I a wee bit too cynical ?
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 14:53
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WOW!

Originally Posted by DropYourSocks
Aerocrew has a side-by-side of the big 3 if anyone is wondering what's going on uptown.

https://aerocrewnews.com/comparison/...-EQ0IqOLfL43WU
This should be posted on the Qantas threads. The gap is mind boggling.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 15:15
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Originally Posted by stillcallozhome
This should be posted on the Qantas threads. The gap is mind boggling.
Nobody over there wants to see the comparison though, and the excuses will be the same ones the US pilots used back in the 2000's when all was not well as to why we shouldn't have them.

- we can't strike, government won't let us
- the pay rates are unsustainable
- the union doesn't look after my interests
​​​​​​- the company will just furlough us / lockout / redundancy
- the economy is about to tank, just take the deal now and get 'em next time

Even for all the wins US pilots are having with their contract gains, you can still hear these excuses of why we shouldn't fight. The difference is now the US pilots are willing to risk it for the win. I hope that this contract cycle Qantas pilots lead the way to the same improvements for every other carrier in Aus.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 22:04
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Originally Posted by MacTrim
...perhaps US citizens on near can honestly tell us how us Aussies are view as we come over to fill “the void” with freight carriers etc.
There have been a few references to this issue upstream in this thread but I'm too lazy to search them out. The short version is there hasn't been much reference to any animosity toward the E3 cohort. There will be some anecdotal cases but not enough to bother with.

The E3s came here in accordance with US law...and that's exactly where the conversation ends.

Anyone not liking that is free to email his congressman insisting he vote to change the existing law. Until then...put a lid on it.
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 02:31
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I sometimes politely remind my esteemed US colleagues that 5% of my Captains, as a new hire into Australia’s premier domestic airline circa 1993, were US citizens.

Reception has been fine. I think when they realise the E3 pool is about dried up most will be pleased to have a handful of Aussies.
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 03:20
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