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Old 10th Jun 2022, 03:23
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At one regional in particular you need a current IPC, dunno about the others.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 05:17
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Originally Posted by Staffypilot
I have received the foreign licence verification today but I was wondering if I need to do an Australian instrument proficiency check before I come up to U.S? My licence verification says that I have a valid instrument rating.
Just get your IPC done. The wording of the FSIMS require a current IPC on your foreign license.

some have slipped through with an expired IPC but I wouldnít risk it if I were you for the sake of a few grand.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 08:04
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bafanguy

I know Atlas is employing ex CX Canadians and applying for a visa waiver so I might be wrong about E3. There is a couple of interesting threads on the Fragrant Harbour section of Pprune with quite a bit of info. ALPA is clearly against E3's though which is understandable as it could mean other visa waivers or types are granted. It is no different to when AFAP were protesting the granting of 457 visas to South Africans a few years ago. Protect your member’s conditions.


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Old 10th Jun 2022, 11:47
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Originally Posted by 404 Titan
bafanguy

I know Atlas is employing ex CX Canadians and applying for a visa waiver so I might be wrong about E3.
Titan 404,

Thanks. I'd be curious to know what visa the Canadians are using at Atlas. I understand the Aussies come via E3 but haven't seen any verified specifics about the Canadians.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 11:48
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Hi ,

could you please direct my where exactly it states that on the verification letter that IR Rating is current as I am blind as a bat to see that .

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Old 10th Jun 2022, 18:46
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Originally Posted by MD_Attitude
Hi ,

could you please direct my where exactly it states that on the verification letter that IR Rating is current as I am blind as a bat to see that .

MD
The examiner ďshouldĒ look at your casa license and verify your IPC is in date. Itís in their FSIMS.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 00:34
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Is it confusing definitions?

You have a valid ATPL license - as you have passed all requirements to hold such license - but cannot exercise that license without, as a minimum, a current medical (and any additional requirements).

You have a valid Instrument Rating - as you have passed all requirements to hold such rating - but cannot exercise that Rating without, as a minimum, a current IPC (and any additional requirements).

Just asking.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 03:26
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Originally Posted by MD_Attitude
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could you please direct my where exactly it states that on the verification letter that IR Rating is current as I am blind as a bat to see that .

MD
You donít need a current IPC for Spirit. They state a current license. As all licenses are ďcurrent ď, an IPC is a proficiency check. Donít need medical either. Your IPC will be done with your type rating and your medical done in USA.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 04:46
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Thanks! Do you know if that is commutair?
Not Commutair, not sure what they're doing.
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Piedmont and Envoy new-FO starting pay now $90/hr, going up to $205/hr for Capt, in addition to the bonusses. While they aren't taking E3s at the moment I'd imagine PSA which does will follow suit (being all AA wholly-owned), and probably the United regionals will have to rethink $50/hr if they want to have any chance in recruiting.

Great time to be a pilot over there.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 05:51
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Originally Posted by havoste
Piedmont and Envoy new-FO starting pay now $90/hr, going up to $205/hr for Capt, in addition to the bonusses. While they aren't taking E3s at the moment I'd imagine PSA which does will follow suit (being all AA wholly-owned), and probably the United regionals will have to rethink $50/hr if they want to have any chance in recruiting.

Great time to be a pilot over there.
PDT and PSA are both taking E3's. I thought I heard an Aussie accent coming from an Envoy jet in Chicago last time I was there. OE captains potentially earning a lot more per hour while in that role. First-year f/o's $90 per hour plus an additional bonus of $30 per hour up to 2024. Will be interesting to see what United and Delta WO's will do. LLC's potential for pay rises maybe? Unless Gojet, Air Wisconsin and Skywest do something they could end up running out of pilots.

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 08:41
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Originally Posted by Rogerwood
You don’t need a current IPC for Spirit. They state a current license. As all licenses are “current “, an IPC is a proficiency check. Don’t need medical either. Your IPC will be done with your type rating and your medical done in USA.
'Current' means you can use it. A licence may be 'valid' for a lifetime, but without a current medical or IPC many jurisdictions won't accept it for a validation or conversion. Whatever the employer's non-technical HR department may state in loosely-worded recruitment criteria, the candidate still needs to get past the FAA. Pprune may not be the best place to get advice on this. Check with the FAA.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 09:20
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Iíll say this one more time regarding the IPC currency and then you run the gauntlet on your own.

FAR Part 61 says valid instrument rating.

The examiner has testing guidelines and requirements laid out in the FSIMS which defines a valid instrument rating as current.

So itís a gamble that if you turn up that the examiner is oblivious to that detail and you slide through the cracks.

For the record there have been more than a few E3 pilots sent home to get their IPC current and come back to do their flight test and donít told not to come back based on not having a current IPC.

So take the risk if you want to.

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 12:05
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Not Commutair, not sure what they're doing.
FWIW, Commutair still has the E3 info on their careers page. I suppose this doesn't necessarily mean they're actually hiring E3s at the moment ?:

https://www.flycommutair.com/e-3-visa/

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 16:58
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A bit of PDT info for those who might be pondering it:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed...ract-deal/amp/

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Old 12th Jun 2022, 06:45
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
A bit of PDT info for those who might be pondering it:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed...ract-deal/amp/
What a time to be flying in the USA. Envoy has received the same contract and PSA is likely to make a similar announcement in the coming week.
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Old 12th Jun 2022, 11:38
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PSA peeps are getting the improved conditions.
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Old 12th Jun 2022, 13:32
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Originally Posted by Captain.Crunch
What a time to be flying in the USA. Envoy has received the same contract and PSA is likely to make a similar announcement in the coming week.
C.C,

IIUC, this new deal applies to all three AA wholly-owned regionals. I haven't tried to drill down on the fine print but I think the pay rates are for two years ? Not sure what's supposed to happen then. But it's a good deal if you want to do a touch & go at a regional.

It'll be interesting to see what effect this has on the other regionals both in terms of causing higher attrition and improving pay at other regionals like Endeavor.
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Old 12th Jun 2022, 16:30
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I suggest everyone listen closely to what Havick has to say re the IPC and Medical needing to be current at your type check ride. SIMPLY because he is 100% correct.

your APD/check ride examiner will check currency and then as you likely wont have an existing 8710 record the paperwork is also likely to go to the FAA FSDO who will also check it. Any other way will/may result in a problem.

You don't actually need to convert Oz licence in any form to the US before the check ride and your first certificate can be the ATP with type rating under these conditions.

Also, yes Piedmont is doing E3s and is happy with the quality of Oz pilots from the program. after 5 years and as an LCA new payrate until Aug 2024 is velly noice (top is $427USD ph on 4 hour hard min day or as worked) plus bonuses. Training is excellent quality and you are well supported as long as the you put the work in.

pm me if interested, I always split half the after tax referral bonuses..

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Old 13th Jun 2022, 02:33
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Originally Posted by havick
Iíll say this one more time regarding the IPC currency and then you run the gauntlet on your own.

FAR Part 61 says valid instrument rating.

The examiner has testing guidelines and requirements laid out in the FSIMS which defines a valid instrument rating as current.

So itís a gamble that if you turn up that the examiner is oblivious to that detail and you slide through the cracks.

For the record there have been more than a few E3 pilots sent home to get their IPC current and come back to do their flight test and donít told not to come back based on not having a current IPC.

So take the risk if you want to.
I must have been lucky then because my IPC wasn't current and it hadn't been a problem....twice!! The issue wasn't even raised.
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