300 Qantas pilots to get the chop ???
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If that is the case, why doesn't someone ask when they are going to engage with the employs and actually work for the common good.
They just do not seem to realise they actually need employees to run the business and that constantly changing the workforce for bottom line gain comes at a cost in future years.
They just do not seem to realise they actually need employees to run the business and that constantly changing the workforce for bottom line gain comes at a cost in future years.
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Bussell oldmeadow farrow and hegarty are solely responsible for at least $1billion in losses due to failed industrial strategies. Clifford and joyce have failed in their roles.
Bring the 78 on at JQ rates. It will cost you. The market gave you an end of year report card today. Do you really want to fail your entire senior schooling?
The best thing about all mentioned above is that Australia gets to see that you really don't have to be clever to rise to the top in business. Myer were amateurs at hiring liars. Qantas excels.
Bring the 78 on at JQ rates. It will cost you. The market gave you an end of year report card today. Do you really want to fail your entire senior schooling?
The best thing about all mentioned above is that Australia gets to see that you really don't have to be clever to rise to the top in business. Myer were amateurs at hiring liars. Qantas excels.
Looks like today is the day those affected in the RIN will find out their fate......
For those who are displaced, what happens next? Another RIN to find out where they are going?
Good luck to all involved, I hope you are able to make the best of a not very nice situation.....
For those who are displaced, what happens next? Another RIN to find out where they are going?
Good luck to all involved, I hope you are able to make the best of a not very nice situation.....
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25 captains demoted to FO either by displacing another pilot in a lower rank or taking a lower rank redeployment position.
44 FOs... Same.
73 other pilots displaced, so further pain to come.
Thanks Alan.
44 FOs... Same.
73 other pilots displaced, so further pain to come.
Thanks Alan.
Kremin, not sure if you've counted the crew named in the Allocation as well as there are a number of demotions 'hidden' in there. All up I think the numbers of demotions may well be higher.
made me smile. Not doing much of that at the moment. What a great airline to work for.
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I should clarify, I am one of the lucky unaffected ones as far as changes to my current status is concerned. My anger comes from seeing so many dreams crushed, and so many willing to facilitate that for their own gain.
Probably. It is hard to count accurately when so angry.
This does not of course diminish the sympathy all of us have to those going backwards.
I was counting the number of training courses required for the next twelve months and it seems to be about 95. Only about 2 training starts per week if that is the case, so the system can cope with that. In house, probably.
Something close to the best result one could have hoped for, in the circumstances.
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Kremin beat me to it.
All those displacements mean one thing: surpluses. The Company may, may, wear them for a little while but not long. A380 FO RIN is next, followed by 330 and, probably, one final RIN for 380SOs. The final RIN would have been 330SOs to the street but it looks like that has been avoided.
Different note, it sure is nice that some 380 and 330cpts have bid to be FOs and even one SO. Where would the airline be if it lost their 'expertise'. Always back the horse called 'Self Interest'..........
All those displacements mean one thing: surpluses. The Company may, may, wear them for a little while but not long. A380 FO RIN is next, followed by 330 and, probably, one final RIN for 380SOs. The final RIN would have been 330SOs to the street but it looks like that has been avoided.
Different note, it sure is nice that some 380 and 330cpts have bid to be FOs and even one SO. Where would the airline be if it lost their 'expertise'. Always back the horse called 'Self Interest'..........
I could be wrong about the number of training courses. If I had skin in the game I'd print out the damned lists and cross out the Base Transfers. I'll leave that to others, I think.
While it is obvious why a few have 'bid back', I wouldn't mind betting there are a few 'own goals'. There always are.
some 380 and 330cpts have bid to be FOs and even one SO
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A380 boss says on his blog that there is no plan for a second round of RINs. Surpluses will be managed by min divisors and assignment of leave.
And from what I can see on the two NFS, over 210 training courses required.
And Keg destined for the RHS of an A380
And from what I can see on the two NFS, over 210 training courses required.
And Keg destined for the RHS of an A380
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Yeah, I hope the 380 boss is right. Forgive me for being sceptical. That is a hell of a lot of guys moving to the 380 and 330. Yes, there is a planned increase in 330 flying, but is it that much? Where's the increase in 380 flying? That's a lot of assigned leave and low divisors for a long, long time. Again, hopefully that all turns out to be true.....
Nunc est bibendum
And Keg destined for the RHS of an A380
Captain Kremin, let the anger go mate. It won't change anything. Those of us who have been busted back have seen this coming for quite some time and understood it as a likelihood. I rolled the dice on staying away from the 737 and this is the outcome.
It's an outcome that I will make work for me and I'll enjoy seeing my former colleagues who are now in Dubai and experience the delights of LA, London and DFW with a bunch of blokes and lasses with whom I've recently shared the delights of Darwin, Perth, Brisbane Melbourne and Cairns- with the very occasional HNL thrown in.
Either way, life goes on and it's still a better outcome than many of our wonderful LAMEs experienced last week.
Nunc est bibendum
That's a lot of assigned leave and low divisors for a long, long time.
Perhaps that's the plan. Load the numbers up and burn the leave off the A380 and hopefully things will have turned around by then! 
Consider this....
All these announcements will lower the rates of individual flying ('divisor' in QF-speak) on each remaining fleet such that, especially in the future A330 F/O pool:
- there will be room to force 'surplus' leave to be assigned to pilots,
- annual pay won't drop much but average stick hours will, and therefore
- QF can continue to select appropriate statistics to tell the world how little QF pilots fly for the pay they receive.
A perfect kill-two-birds-with-one-stone solution!
- there will be room to force 'surplus' leave to be assigned to pilots,
- annual pay won't drop much but average stick hours will, and therefore
- QF can continue to select appropriate statistics to tell the world how little QF pilots fly for the pay they receive.
A perfect kill-two-birds-with-one-stone solution!
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This is just the beginning of a well laid out management plan to get rid of the long haul pilot/FA/Engineer awards for good.
This is just rearranging deck chairs on the long haul titanic. There are no aircraft on order, or more precisely, no aircraft will ever be put on the long haul award again.
If you consider that the managers "responsibility" is to lower costs, it is not hard to work out which way they are going with this.
Good luck.
This is just rearranging deck chairs on the long haul titanic. There are no aircraft on order, or more precisely, no aircraft will ever be put on the long haul award again.
If you consider that the managers "responsibility" is to lower costs, it is not hard to work out which way they are going with this.
Good luck.