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Mr Joyce says no jobs will be lost as a result of the alliance, which is currently being considered by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC).
Rather, it will provide a "platform" to grow Qantas's struggling international operations in the years ahead.
CAN WE TRUST HIM.
Rather, it will provide a "platform" to grow Qantas's struggling international operations in the years ahead.
CAN WE TRUST HIM.
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"Anybody that has a view of what's going to happen in any level of growth rate in Sydney knows the damage that it is going to cause, not only the NSW economy, but the national economy if we don't address this problem," he said.
"We need a second Sydney airport – we don't need another airport in NSW. There is no point building fast-train links to places like Canberra and assuming that is going to fix the problem."
Mr O'Farrell has ruled out supporting a second airport and favours using Canberra Airport by connecting it to Sydney with a high-speed train line.
But Mr Joyce said: "I don't think even Michael O'Leary from Ryanair would have had the gall to claim Canberra was the second Sydney airport – he makes outrageous calls on airports around the world."
"We need a second Sydney airport – we don't need another airport in NSW. There is no point building fast-train links to places like Canberra and assuming that is going to fix the problem."
Mr O'Farrell has ruled out supporting a second airport and favours using Canberra Airport by connecting it to Sydney with a high-speed train line.
But Mr Joyce said: "I don't think even Michael O'Leary from Ryanair would have had the gall to claim Canberra was the second Sydney airport – he makes outrageous calls on airports around the world."
Qantas CEO Joyce talks up jobs, 787s and 2nd Sydney Airport | Plane Talking
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce has engaged in a lively Q and A session after addressing the National Press Club in Canberra, talking up new jobs, 787 international flights from the capital, and saying London is finished if the Emirates deal isn’t approved
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce told the National Press Club today that the Emirates partnership would create more jobs for the flying kangaroo, and could see it return to Europe in its own right.
He also spoke favourably about using 787-9s to inaugurate Qantas international flights from Canberra (provided the long haul operation returned to viability), said that everyone knew the NSW Premier, Barry O’Farrell was wrong about Sydney not needing a second airport, and looking across the hall at the Federal Transport Minister, Anthony Albanese, who wants it built at Wilton, said Qantas preferred the existing site at Badgerys Creek
by Stalins ugly Brother - From what i'm hearing this is all true, to be hinted at at the AGM and to be confirmed early in the new year. Plus the rumour of Jetstar not getting the 787s is not going away according to whispers around the corridors. 
I think the Jetstar long haul option based in SIN is starting to wear a bit thin with a lot of people close to the main investors.. ie the current JQA330 operations losing money....AJ needs to be good at the AGM this year as does LC who has a very low public profile since the last AGM, I think because of the uncertainty his leadership has created over the previous two years... don't be surprised if he steps down.... (I am still hearing this is very possible) It is easy to shoot down what LC said at last years AGM regarding the share price, although better than a couple of months back it still has gone backwards compared to this time last year.... highlighting the poor management decisions... other words, the progress has been painfully slow.. way too slow now hanging their hats on EK sorting out Q's future which is what AJ is effectively saying now...
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It is REALLY important that at this years AGM they are not allowed to forget what they said last year OR they get away with it again.
Its about time performance was measured in results rather than spin and more spin.
Its about time performance was measured in results rather than spin and more spin.
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by Stalins ugly Brother - From what i'm hearing this is all true, to be hinted at at the AGM and to be confirmed early in the new year. Plus the rumour of Jetstar not getting the 787s is not going away according to whispers around the corridors.
The info i got on the 787s not going to Jetstar won't be released or made official until the arbitration proceedings between the company and AIPA re the LHA is concluded and certified which will probably be early next year. You won't hear it at the AGM, but you might hear about the demise of Jetconnect with the 738s being redeployed to domestic ops and the consolidation of Jetstar domestically and across the Tasman (other words no more expansion).
Also heard we will use Singapore airport sparingly until the 787-9s arrive then ops will ramp up out of there again and Europe will be once again on the radar from 2016. This is on top of the routes to LHR through Dubai which will be further reviewed around that 2016 timeline as well with the possibility of more 380s servicing other destinations to Europe from Dubai.
CAN WE TRUST HIM.
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And now for something completly different - AJs on a roll.....
CAN WE TRUST HIM.
Joyce assures workers on jobs
New platform: Alan Joyce insists the Qantas/Emirates deal will not mean job cuts. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
QANTAS chief executive Alan Joyce has assured its workforce that jobs will not be cut as a result of its proposed close alliance with Middle Eastern airline Emirates.
With some unions fearing job cuts will be made once the deal is approved, Mr Joyce sought to allay the concerns and insisted that the alliance will be a means of growing Qantas' international operations.
''There's no job cuts as a result of this … but there will be jobs growth as we use this as our platform going forward,'' Mr Joyce said.
Without approval for the deal, Mr Joyce warned that Qantas will no longer have a viable international operation, which would ultimately lead to job losses in the airline, and hurt other parts of the company such as its frequent flyer business.
''There is no going back and there is no alternative for us to make Europe work,'' he told the National Press Club in Canberra.
''What Emirates will do is secure the operations into Europe to make them viable and allow us, as we said, to create a platform for us to grow.''
Qantas has already ended partnerships with British Airways, Air France and Cathay Pacific, and will also be giving up landing slots in Singapore, which has lost out to Dubai as the airline's main international hub.
But the Transport Workers Union, which represents Qantas ground staff, said Mr Joyce's comments yesterday about the importance of the Qantas workforce rang hollow. The union accused the company of running an ''aggressive policy of outsourcing and offshoring Qantas group jobs''.
Yesterday, Mr Joyce also said that Canberra Airport remained on Qantas' radar for international flights.
''We have looked at the Canberra market internationally on a number of occasions. That is still potentially on our radar screen … but it all depends on us making the necessary changes,'' he said.
The competition watchdog is expected to make a draft decision on the Qantas-Emirates alliance by the end of this year. The federal Transport Department gave its support for the deal in a submission lodged with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission early this week.
Aspects of the deal will also need regulatory approval in Singapore and New Zealand
Read more: Joyce assures workers on jobs
strange... considering this story is one of the main headlines in the same paper today...
One million service sector jobs are at risk of going overseas by 2042
IMPROVEMENTS in technology, the strong dollar and increasing global competition have sent 80,000 service sector jobs overseas in the past four years, putting pressure on the country to reinvent its economy before the mining boom ends.
The erosion of the sector suggests time is running out for Australia to remain globally competitive in higher-skilled service-based industries, according to the report by the Melbourne-based National Institute of Economic and Industry Research.
IMPROVEMENTS in technology, the strong dollar and increasing global competition have sent 80,000 service sector jobs overseas in the past four years, putting pressure on the country to reinvent its economy before the mining boom ends.
The erosion of the sector suggests time is running out for Australia to remain globally competitive in higher-skilled service-based industries, according to the report by the Melbourne-based National Institute of Economic and Industry Research.
here for those who didn't see the rare part one... exclusive
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Shut down Jetconnect? Sure
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If Jetconnect were to close, hate to be a driver with them at the moment then! 
With the new Emirates deal going ahead (presumably), could this be the beginning of a long overdue renaissance for Qantas? Alan keeps jumping on the jobs growth platform, would that mean more driver positions? I know that there is a pilot "glut" at the moment but obviously with a period of consolidation could we see (finally) a new generation of eager young aviators joining the ranks of the flying 'roo?
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With the new Emirates deal going ahead (presumably), could this be the beginning of a long overdue renaissance for Qantas? Alan keeps jumping on the jobs growth platform, would that mean more driver positions? I know that there is a pilot "glut" at the moment but obviously with a period of consolidation could we see (finally) a new generation of eager young aviators joining the ranks of the flying 'roo?
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From what I hear, there are some issues with EK code sharing on Jetconnect. Not exactly sure what it is all about, but rumor has it, whatever it is, it may be a big enough issue to see Jetconnect redundant as without codeshare, it is not viable.
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If Jetconnect were to close, hate to be a driver with them at the moment then!
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Yeah it's pretty much a well known secret Jetconnect will be wound up, but I have heard they may survive as a skeleton operation serving NZ domestic routes at around 20% of their current size, for a while.
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Surely QF will need to continue operating into ZQN and WLG with jetconnect?
If they were going to operate NZ domestic at 20% will they get rid of Jetstar in NZ?
I would not have thought that jetconnect ops trans-tasman would be an issue for EK but Jetstar is, JQ domestic in NZ would be an issue also if they wanted NZ domestic codeshare?
If they were going to operate NZ domestic at 20% will they get rid of Jetstar in NZ?
I would not have thought that jetconnect ops trans-tasman would be an issue for EK but Jetstar is, JQ domestic in NZ would be an issue also if they wanted NZ domestic codeshare?
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Irrespective of the operator, it's a tragedy when colleagues in aviation face an uncertain future. It's understandable that we should feel some relief when a competitor falls over as that makes us just that little bit more secure but unbridled joy that others are now out of a job and facing an uncertain future to pay their mortgages is particularly nasty.
So by all means be happy that perhaps this decision (if it pans out) is a good commercial one for Qantas. Be happy that perhaps it may mean expansion. Please though don't take any joy that some people will be out of a job and looking at a very uncertain future.
So by all means be happy that perhaps this decision (if it pans out) is a good commercial one for Qantas. Be happy that perhaps it may mean expansion. Please though don't take any joy that some people will be out of a job and looking at a very uncertain future.
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If Jetconnect goes that will be damned awful for those people and their families. For whatever reason it was set up it is not the workers fault. They just want to work.
Hearing it first from the rumour mill makes it more appalling.
Having been through that mill , it aint pleasant.
Hearing it first from the rumour mill makes it more appalling.
Having been through that mill , it aint pleasant.
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