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Old 12th Sep 2012, 20:06
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Sunfish, I guess it's the same as making them your chosen airline to fly.
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Old 14th Sep 2012, 03:27
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Tying up with an airline from a Muslim country looks like a really good idea
got me thinking, what happens with organisations and general passengers from another religion who may be effected by this?

How did pax flying out of Oz get to Tel Aviv who wanted to fly QF ? Assume QF to SIN or BKK and then change.

Will these pax be lost to QF now?
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Pax from any religion can fly EK?... The UAE constitution provides for freedom of Religion. Anyone thinking this is some backward state, living in the dark ages is grossly mistaken. Hopefully this partnership will give people the opportunity to experience Dubai and see it for what it is.

QF will still fly to Asia, where you will have the opportunity to transit to TLV, it's just the timings and frequencies will not be the same.
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Old 14th Sep 2012, 15:36
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Qantas has Muslim crew
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Geez-Wayne......back on topic, if religious differences were added to the D&G mix it would become even more toxic.
Let's start a viable list of destinations that QF could operate to ex Ausi that EK does not operate to, I'll start..........1/ Kiribati

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Old 14th Sep 2012, 22:33
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News going around that the older flight attendants on the 380 are being tagged with the title: Boilers in Burqa's..

Change the QF uniform to burqua's, it better represents the Qantas base, Sydney.
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Smile

Leave the religious slant out of it, and get back on topic thanks.

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Old 15th Sep 2012, 15:38
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Agreed...this has nothing to do with religion.Get back on track. Deflametry remarks wont help anyone
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2/ Norfolk Island
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3/wallis and futuna
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Old 16th Sep 2012, 07:01
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4. Port Moresby 5. Nauru 6. Christmas Island 7. Cocos Island. 8. anywhere else that won't make money!
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9/Beijing.... apparently.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 04:41
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Meanwhile, Qantas released a statement to the ASX today showing that the chairman, Leigh Clifford, bought 100,000 shares in the airline at $1.285 a piece last Monday.

The purchase was made several days after Qantas signed an alliance deal with Middle Eastern airline Emirates.
Read more: Qantas | Qantas code with SAA share cleared for take-off

Confidence or ?
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 06:33
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In my experience this is usually:
1. Prior to bad news coming to shore up the market, or
2. Bravado to try and convince the market that all is well,

and usually has nothing to do with investment strategy for an individual. Now we wait and see which one it is.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 16:09
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interesting piece here,
Joyce takes home $2.3m, declines bonus | News | Business Spectator

a bit of a change from the mood, this time last year.. and it is almost AGM time soon, Wow, time flies..

Joyce takes home $2.3m, declines bonus

quote Mr Joyce, whose package included $2.1 million in base pay and $171,000 in other benefits, turned down the $792,000 bonus, which he was entitled to under the airline's performance-based annual incentive scheme.

Mr Joyce was not awarded new shares because he failed to meet a three-year performance hurdle. quote
meanwhile LC has been updating his share portfolio with Qantas.. brought for 1.28...

by ohallen, In my experience this is usually:
1. Prior to bad news coming to shore up the market, or
2. Bravado to try and convince the market that all is well,
good points, I dun no either, hard to be sure..
todays close
Last Price ($A) $1.2400 Change 0.0000 0.0% Prev Close 1.2400


I sense possible early warning signs of, a change in the air forthcoming, sir .. ?

I think it is clear now, Joyce has had enough time, let's hope he is a ham, saving the best to last, and announces something big and positive at the
AGM that will put a smile on all the faces once again...



The last twelve months, is testimony to the amazing professionalism all the techies had to endure, particularly with all this other stuff going on in the background.. or more to the point, constantly reminded about it..

There is a saying "history does repeat itself" the last couple of years at Q constantly reminds me, more and more, of the Robert Ayling CEO BA saga, back at the turn of the century, Link below for those who can remember .. This saga lasted for about five years. seemed to go on forever..

NOTAM Background
.http://media.wiley.com/product_data/...0787998303.pdf

Lack of People skills at management level was a major factor at BA at this time.. Ayling was dumped.

When the dust settled the Rod Eddington lead management team had to repair the damage... it sort feels like what is needed at Q sooner rather than later.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 21:14
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Is there a pool running for how long Mr. Joyce is anticipated to remain in office after the AGM? The AGM is scheduled for Friday, 2nd Nov.

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Old 17th Sep 2012, 21:31
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Tima9x, The AGM is a showpiece .

There would need to be a trading halt if anything big were to be announced during trading hours. If anything else is to come I suspect it would be before the AGM so it is added to the show piece and reflected in the voting and remuneration report.

The Emirates deal is his big news imho.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 22:27
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turned down the $792,000 bonus
So let me get this straight ....

You lose $450 mill, see the share price plummet, slash the international network and you're STILL entitled to a $792,000 bonus!!!!

What do you have to do to qualify?!!? KEEP BREATHING!!???!!
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 22:32
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Mr Joyce, whose package included $2.1 million in base pay and $171,000 in other benefits
Internal mail is reminding us that our fearless leader has taken a 44% pay cut.

turned down the $792,000 bonus, which he was entitled to under the airline's performance-based annual incentive scheme.
...a bonus for that performance? I would have thought it would require at least one parameter to be in positive territory to generate a "bonus".

I assume it's the board that set the bonus parameters. On that score alone they have demonstrated their incompetence and lack of suitability in carrying out their required duties.
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 00:05
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There would need to be a trading halt if anything big were to be announced
If I recall correctly the day after the AGM last year there was a trading halt, he woke up and decided to ground the airline... With this current lot anything could happen...

The Emirates deal is his big news imho.
probably right on that one ampclamp

jokes aside, I agree, the AGM is a showpiece but I believe this year there is a lot more pressure on the managers than there was this time last year..
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