Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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Poor Olivia, I don't think she or QF Managemant know what the meaning of ' negotiate' is!
I also wonder how they sleep at night when they tell so many lies to the Press (and the public)?
I wonder if they would accept it if the Engineers used the same ethics when doing maintainance?
I also wonder how they sleep at night when they tell so many lies to the Press (and the public)?
I wonder if they would accept it if the Engineers used the same ethics when doing maintainance?
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The company is defaming all the LAME's by spreading this propaganda in the media, surely the ALAEA needs to refute these lies in the media otherwise Joe Public thinks that we're holding the company to ransom.
How about letting the public know about the real facts of the negotiation so far.
How about letting the public know about the real facts of the negotiation so far.
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She's just doing her job, though I am glad she is on their team and not ours.
Completely opposite to what I heard.
GH has stated that QF has "trump cards" that they have "not played yet".
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This whole thing..........and then all of a sudden,nothing happened. Work just keeps on being done, planes keep flying, EBA talks go nowhere. Same old,same old.........
The talk of trump cards and the like just seems very juvenile whether it is true or not.The suspense is just sleep provoking.
The talk of trump cards and the like just seems very juvenile whether it is true or not.The suspense is just sleep provoking.
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GH has stated that QF has "trump cards" that they have "not played yet".
Ngineer - I heard GH use the analogy re trump cards in the H271 smoko room while addressing approx. 40 LAMES about 3 weeks ago. It was alluded that one of the trump cards could be some form of annualized salary but it would exclude sick pay. Can't remember what other trump cards might be but he was referring to more than one card.
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Ms Wirth said the airline remained committed to finding common ground with the engineers.
"We are willing to negotiate on reasonable pay and conditions but we cannot accept union demands for a veto on change which would damage Qantas, restrict our business and jeopardise the jobs of their members and all other Qantas employees," she said.
...... Sounds like a threat to me??
"We are willing to negotiate on reasonable pay and conditions but we cannot accept union demands for a veto on change which would damage Qantas, restrict our business and jeopardise the jobs of their members and all other Qantas employees," she said.
...... Sounds like a threat to me??
I think Olivia is out of her depth again as I believe that the ALAEA has numerous examples of lack of good faith.
from Wiki:
In law:
from Wiki:
In philosophy, the concept of Good faith — Latin bona fides “in good faith”, bona fide “genuine” — denotes sincere, honest intention or belief, regardless of the outcome of an action; the analogous concepts are bad faith (duplicity) and perfidy (pretense). In law, bona fides denotes the mental and moral states of honesty and conviction regarding either the truth or the falsity of a proposition, or of a body of opinion; likewise regarding either the rectitude or the depravity of a line of conduct. As a legal concept bona fides is especially important in matters of equity.
In contract law, the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing is a general presumption that the parties to the contract will act in good faith and honestly in abiding the promise of the contract, and shall not avoid contractual responsibility by shifty means or denying what the other party understood from the terms of the contract. A lawsuit (or a cause of action) based upon the breach of the covenant occurs when one party to the contract claims technical excuses for breaching the contract, or when he or she uses specific contractual terms in order to refuse to perform the contractual obligations, despite the circumstances and understanding between the parties.
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First it was the laptops, now the federal government has ended the lease car tax rort. Sydney Morning Herald
This Enterprise Agreement is in desperate need of some new sweeteners!
This Enterprise Agreement is in desperate need of some new sweeteners!
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Flat rate of 20% recommended.Those doing under 15,000 will be better off.
The Henry review could have gone several steps further imho
Lower tax rates have made leasing for most LAMEs a losing game.
At least far less attractive. In my workplace the numbers leasing have fallen considerably.
FED SEC,
I believe the company has applied for conciliation before FWA , is that correct?
If so what does it mean for us and them?
The Henry review could have gone several steps further imho
Lower tax rates have made leasing for most LAMEs a losing game.
At least far less attractive. In my workplace the numbers leasing have fallen considerably.
FED SEC,
I believe the company has applied for conciliation before FWA , is that correct?
If so what does it mean for us and them?
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A flat FBT rate of about 16-17% would have been alot fairer rather than the 20% reported in the paper. This makes Salary sacrificing a less attractive option. Will wait for the facts on budget night.
Hopefully QF and ALAEA will work through this IASA mess. Used to take at least 2 IASA guys to turn around a 400. Whats the bet that local management will eventually expect the transiting LAME to take up the slack.
Hopefully QF and ALAEA will work through this IASA mess. Used to take at least 2 IASA guys to turn around a 400. Whats the bet that local management will eventually expect the transiting LAME to take up the slack.
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G'day ngineer,
The do not want to make salary sacrifice enticing, far from it!
yes best wait and see the nitty gritty details but so much of the budget gets run up the flagpole before budget night these days I'd say it is in the bag.
The do not want to make salary sacrifice enticing, far from it!
yes best wait and see the nitty gritty details but so much of the budget gets run up the flagpole before budget night these days I'd say it is in the bag.
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With all the latest developments with Virgin Australia, will it force the rat to come to the table?????
Had a look at the new interior of the virgin product....DAM! it absolutely sh#ts all over the QF product. Me thinks a little war is brewing....
Had a look at the new interior of the virgin product....DAM! it absolutely sh#ts all over the QF product. Me thinks a little war is brewing....
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yes JETTRONIC,it will bring them to the table bleating about how dicky's newer airplanes are better than our old girls and JB has all the info to beat us....they will want us to continue without PIA so we can hold onto our jobs....dicky came out at the launch of VA this week saying he was going in to direct competition with QF in j class...and it will take at least 2 Lame's on a -400 to do the IFE....and "GUESS WHAT"we dont have that many
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The IFE is going to be a real problem now iasa is gone.
Luckily most crews will accept a 90 minute delay while
we ponder over unsuccessfull reboots before the inevitable
hold item. There will be heaps of U/S seats and maybe
total AVOD loss, degraded mode if you are lucky.
Wow, with pia comming within the week it is going to be
a total fooking disaster.
Luckily most crews will accept a 90 minute delay while
we ponder over unsuccessfull reboots before the inevitable
hold item. There will be heaps of U/S seats and maybe
total AVOD loss, degraded mode if you are lucky.
Wow, with pia comming within the week it is going to be
a total fooking disaster.