Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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Steve, just wondering what the strike breakers moved from LAX back to Australia this week should do? Should they go back to LAX to continue training and doing A-Checks or should they stay in their hotels here (only to venture out after dark)?
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So is this how this "union" operates in 2011 ? an ego trip for one official , whilst the members are given the mushroom treatment , and I thought it was the members who determined the course of the dispute. how things have changed . A 101 in trade union tactics would show members MUST have ownership of the dispute not the high and mighty playing Field Marshall . The arrogance of telling his members there are things they will NEVER know is breathtaking . Ah well comrades here we go solidarity forever , solidarity forever , solidarity for ever for the Union makes us strong . If only!
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the only problem with the 2008 PIA is that it didnt clear house.Three years later we are back in a worse scenario with more and more offshored work.
Until the current management take a leaf from borghetties book and bring all back under one banner split the two models of J*and QF,then nothing will change.
the only vote all lames should vote on, Is a vote of no confidence in the current management from ops managers to the board.
hangar paint doesnt cut it.
Until the current management take a leaf from borghetties book and bring all back under one banner split the two models of J*and QF,then nothing will change.
the only vote all lames should vote on, Is a vote of no confidence in the current management from ops managers to the board.
hangar paint doesnt cut it.
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Hi Steve, Must say I'm a bit dissapointed at not taking any PIA at this time. However I have faith that the executive has a game plan that they are following. I know you all did a great job getting the right result in 2008, so I will continue to place my faith with you again. All the best to yourself and the team, and I look forward to the day when the bodies of our enemies float by!
PS- Ian, give it a rest mate!
PS- Ian, give it a rest mate!
Are they listening??
Well done again Steve,
Most will understand your need to keep some things strictly confidential,those that wont will be some of the ones who would pass the info onto our employer before you could blink!
There is certainly a huge window of opportunity there for a serious offer to be put on the table now(but not 6 months for another worthless 1),this will really show if there is actually anyone in management who is genuine considering all the media work they have engaged in to belittle us-time will tell & i am sure that this will cetainly grab the attention of the media.
Our association has again shown we are professionals,it remains to be seen if that hard earned title can be earned by the other party in these negotiations.
Most will understand your need to keep some things strictly confidential,those that wont will be some of the ones who would pass the info onto our employer before you could blink!
There is certainly a huge window of opportunity there for a serious offer to be put on the table now(but not 6 months for another worthless 1),this will really show if there is actually anyone in management who is genuine considering all the media work they have engaged in to belittle us-time will tell & i am sure that this will cetainly grab the attention of the media.
Our association has again shown we are professionals,it remains to be seen if that hard earned title can be earned by the other party in these negotiations.
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The events over the past few days have exposed and highlighted to the workers, and the Australian public, the agenda to outsource all heavy maintenance on the next gen aircraft to offshore. (And the quality issues in doing so).
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I am not sure about the O/T issue,
Some of the out stations have a huge O/T account,
Take CBR for an example,
No 4 hour call in's down there,all O/T on 11 hour shifts,
But you have to be on the company side to get the cash,
One gready ex ansett LAME,now SNR,German has no problem giving himself 9 11 hour O/T
shifts for a 8 week roster and leaving none for the workers
Has Tim not worked out what is going on in CBR,the man running the place
is old TAA school guy,where we don't fix A/C on o/nights at stations,
It's time to clean house
Some of the out stations have a huge O/T account,
Take CBR for an example,
No 4 hour call in's down there,all O/T on 11 hour shifts,
But you have to be on the company side to get the cash,
One gready ex ansett LAME,now SNR,German has no problem giving himself 9 11 hour O/T
shifts for a 8 week roster and leaving none for the workers
Has Tim not worked out what is going on in CBR,the man running the place
is old TAA school guy,where we don't fix A/C on o/nights at stations,
It's time to clean house
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Perth O.T.
Perth also has a massive overtime bill at the moment. An OT ban there would bring the place to a grinding halt. There would be even more delays and chaos than normal.
Just a suggestion fed sec.
Just a suggestion fed sec.
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Is it just coincidence that QF seem to be sending lots of engineers offshore at the moment?
Take a look at LAX for example
Once they are out of Australia they are exempt from the PIA and would be required to work as normal while the disputed raged at home.
Perhaps just those scum bags looking to hedge their bets again
Is it just coincidence that QF seem to be sending lots of engineers offshore at the moment?
Take a look at LAX for example
Once they are out of Australia they are exempt from the PIA and would be required to work as normal while the disputed raged at home.
Perhaps just those scum bags looking to hedge their bets again
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You're not exempt from the actions if you are overseas. The protections are still there otherwise a pilot ballot would be nonsense. They are training some strikebreakers over there but then again they always are. Last PIA a few guys from Syd went up but it suited us better to see what was going on up there.
What we have in mind won't won't be covered by a bit of more work at LAX or JHAS.
See you at 1000 Ian.
What we have in mind won't won't be covered by a bit of more work at LAX or JHAS.
See you at 1000 Ian.
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Shurly they have not got old Cowmeadows on the negation team again thought they would have learnt by now but I suppose he does know how to milk a prostate plenty of practices been doing it for year to JD I suppose AJ is only too curious to try it out himself. Well done old Cowmeadows been on the corporate spit EST 1974
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Is it just coincidence that QF seem to be sending lots of engineers offshore at the moment?
Take a look at LAX for example
Take a look at LAX for example
Nothing against the individuals at all, just thought after the recent goings on with relief postings/payments etc "they (management)" might just look outside their little "group" and offer it to other equally qualified/capable individuals out there in the network.
Huh, what? Oh sorry was having a bad dream.
Qantas fires back at 'ridiculous' union claims
My favourite part
In other words a $33k/year claim. It's news to me 
Qantas club ??
My favourite part
Mr Joyce, making his first public appearance since having surgery for prostrate cancer, said the engineers' union had asked for pay increases and perks that would total $160 million over the next three years. "They have asked for membership of the Qantas Club for all of their members [and] they have asked for an extra week's leave to take it to six weeks' leave," he said.
Qantas club ??
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Erm, FedSec old chap.
Please tell me that this reference to Qantas Club membership is a result of the leprechaun splitting a fan disc inside that delusional head of his?
I take it that the FWA meeting today yeilded little progress?
Whilst I generally enjoy watching the upper echelon's of Qantas Management slipping a few gears, I believe there is something of an information vacuum among the membership as to the status of negotiations.
I mean, is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Or are we banging our heads against the wall in precisely the same manner as we were six months ago? And if that's the case, why the delay in PIA?
Not critisizing. Just asking.
Cheers.
Please tell me that this reference to Qantas Club membership is a result of the leprechaun splitting a fan disc inside that delusional head of his?
I take it that the FWA meeting today yeilded little progress?
Whilst I generally enjoy watching the upper echelon's of Qantas Management slipping a few gears, I believe there is something of an information vacuum among the membership as to the status of negotiations.
I mean, is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Or are we banging our heads against the wall in precisely the same manner as we were six months ago? And if that's the case, why the delay in PIA?
Not critisizing. Just asking.
Cheers.