Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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So overall QF have excellent facilities, manpower levels, etc, etc....?
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I must say Unionist 1974 or Ian or Ashhhhley send me some of that sh!t you're smoking
what utter nonsense but as someone else noted always good for a laugh
Just about at the point of action, tension is building we've had the manager speil on how tough times are, god I love putting them on the spot
" So when are you going to get rid of us ?"
What is Engineer on demand ?"
"Who is really in charge of engineering and would I know him if I tripped over him ?
Time for talk is over it's now time for action
what utter nonsense but as someone else noted always good for a laugh
Just about at the point of action, tension is building we've had the manager speil on how tough times are, god I love putting them on the spot
" So when are you going to get rid of us ?"
What is Engineer on demand ?"
"Who is really in charge of engineering and would I know him if I tripped over him ?
Time for talk is over it's now time for action
Gas bags and Unionist74 are QF management trolls.
...And as a matter of fact I have been right through Lufthansa facilities in Frankfurt and Hamburg on Ansett business, and in detail. Even in the early 1980's they had autonomous robot vehicles delivering spares from stores and a virtually paperless hangar.
The only thing that was a little disconcerting was watching LAMEs down Two Steins of beer at lunchtime in the caf.
...And as a matter of fact I have been right through Lufthansa facilities in Frankfurt and Hamburg on Ansett business, and in detail. Even in the early 1980's they had autonomous robot vehicles delivering spares from stores and a virtually paperless hangar.
The only thing that was a little disconcerting was watching LAMEs down Two Steins of beer at lunchtime in the caf.
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unionist1974
First you claim some of the ALAEA eba committee are driven by greed, then you claim another one has been bought
but you are about to be thumped in a PIA vote that this same committee has recommended strongly to support.
Do you now concede that your (and hence Qantas') tactics are out of date and irrelevant?
a certain executive member was given a dream ride to supervisor and he is negotiating for you , reckon he owes a favour or two, I DO
Do you now concede that your (and hence Qantas') tactics are out of date and irrelevant?
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Your efforts have to be applauded unionist1974 the last time this tactic was attempted it was highly successful......for the union. Is this like umm.... reverse physcology or something.And really who actually aspires to being a supervisor at QF. He is being punished!
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that turdburglar is way out of touch.
what's this supervisor position anyhow?
the old international 'maint supervisor' perhaps?
had to wait all weekend,
but my yes vote is in the mail now.
and if anyone is still undecided
YouTube - With Us or Against Us
what's this supervisor position anyhow?
the old international 'maint supervisor' perhaps?
had to wait all weekend,
but my yes vote is in the mail now.
and if anyone is still undecided
YouTube - With Us or Against Us
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Ashhhhley
Enjoy the the limelight while it lasts son.
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From the SMH........
Qantas sends secret strike breakers to train in LA
Qantas sends secret strike breakers to train in LA
Matt O'Sullivan, Mark Hawthorne
April 5, 2011
QANTAS has been secretly sending managers to the US for training in ground-handling and check-in operations as the company steps up its preparations for looming strikes.
The airline has been readying its managers since before Christmas for the prospect of industrial action by ground staff, including baggage and ramp handlers in the second half of this year.
The training by private contractors at Los Angeles airport includes loading and unloading aircraft, as well as driving trucks in restricted airport areas.
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Staff are also told about the basic legal requirements that they must meet in any ground-handling roles.
''It is very hands-on,'' said one source who has done the training. ''You have to drive the trucks out to the aircraft and do the loading and unloading, and lining the trucks up to the aircraft doors.''
Qantas has to resort to sending managers overseas for training in ground-handling because Australian contractors refuse to teach potential strike breakers here. It takes about five staff to unload a Boeing 737 aircraft and prepare it for another flight.
A Qantas spokesman confirmed managers had been sent to the US as part of its contingency plans, but said it was something the airline had done previously during industrial disputes over the past 10 years.
''This type of contingency measure is important to ensure our passengers can continue to fly as normal in the event of union-led strikes,'' he said.
''We were forced to use this contingency in the past when the TWU took unprotected industrial action.''
Qantas trains secret strike-breakers in LA
The airline has been engaged in negotiations with unions representing both licensed aircraft engineers and 1700 long-haul pilots for months. The engineers are considered more likely to strike.
But it is the thousands of Qantas workers represented by the Transport Workers Union who are considered most likely to take industrial action this year. The TWU represents baggage handlers, refuellers and ramp and catering staff.
The airline is suing the TWU for more than $1 million in damages for wildcat strikes by its members at capital-city airports two years ago.
However, attempts by Qantas to use strike-breakers is considered a short-term measure because once a passenger jet has been worked on by them it is regarded as ''tainted''. Other Qantas workers, such as engineers, are almost certain to refuse to later work on the aircraft.
Qantas has a history of training strike-busting workforces in preparation for periods of industrial unrest.
Last week the airline announced cost-cutting measures, including axing managers, in an attempt to combat high jet-fuel prices and the impact of natural disasters in Queensland, Japan and New Zealand on travel demand.
Qantas sends secret strike breakers to train in LA
Qantas sends secret strike breakers to train in LA
Matt O'Sullivan, Mark Hawthorne
April 5, 2011
QANTAS has been secretly sending managers to the US for training in ground-handling and check-in operations as the company steps up its preparations for looming strikes.
The airline has been readying its managers since before Christmas for the prospect of industrial action by ground staff, including baggage and ramp handlers in the second half of this year.
The training by private contractors at Los Angeles airport includes loading and unloading aircraft, as well as driving trucks in restricted airport areas.
Advertisement: Story continues below
Staff are also told about the basic legal requirements that they must meet in any ground-handling roles.
''It is very hands-on,'' said one source who has done the training. ''You have to drive the trucks out to the aircraft and do the loading and unloading, and lining the trucks up to the aircraft doors.''
Qantas has to resort to sending managers overseas for training in ground-handling because Australian contractors refuse to teach potential strike breakers here. It takes about five staff to unload a Boeing 737 aircraft and prepare it for another flight.
A Qantas spokesman confirmed managers had been sent to the US as part of its contingency plans, but said it was something the airline had done previously during industrial disputes over the past 10 years.
''This type of contingency measure is important to ensure our passengers can continue to fly as normal in the event of union-led strikes,'' he said.
''We were forced to use this contingency in the past when the TWU took unprotected industrial action.''
Qantas trains secret strike-breakers in LA
The airline has been engaged in negotiations with unions representing both licensed aircraft engineers and 1700 long-haul pilots for months. The engineers are considered more likely to strike.
But it is the thousands of Qantas workers represented by the Transport Workers Union who are considered most likely to take industrial action this year. The TWU represents baggage handlers, refuellers and ramp and catering staff.
The airline is suing the TWU for more than $1 million in damages for wildcat strikes by its members at capital-city airports two years ago.
However, attempts by Qantas to use strike-breakers is considered a short-term measure because once a passenger jet has been worked on by them it is regarded as ''tainted''. Other Qantas workers, such as engineers, are almost certain to refuse to later work on the aircraft.
Qantas has a history of training strike-busting workforces in preparation for periods of industrial unrest.
Last week the airline announced cost-cutting measures, including axing managers, in an attempt to combat high jet-fuel prices and the impact of natural disasters in Queensland, Japan and New Zealand on travel demand.
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QANTAS has been secretly sending managers to the US for training in ground-handling and check-in operations This company has way to many managers if they have the time to go to LA for this also how much would this cost.
too much.
too much.
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Mr Joyce
If you, or any of your management team, ever bothered to engage (negotiate) with Qantas' employees you would be surprised.
1) QF would save millions from management strike breaking training in LAX.
2) Those managers would be more productive in their original jobs.
3) You would find that QF employees are an asset not liability.
4) Illiminate the negative publicity for Qantas in the media.
If you, or any of your management team, ever bothered to engage (negotiate) with Qantas' employees you would be surprised.
1) QF would save millions from management strike breaking training in LAX.
2) Those managers would be more productive in their original jobs.
3) You would find that QF employees are an asset not liability.
4) Illiminate the negative publicity for Qantas in the media.
Senior management that won't work with it's staff, and hence forces them into confrontation.
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Rather interesting that they train up these people long before there is even a hint of industrial action.
Goes to show that their lack of willingness to negotiate in good faith is premeditated.
Goes to show that their lack of willingness to negotiate in good faith is premeditated.
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Newport aviation rides again...
Seems that Newport Aviation has been reincarnated....OLDMEADOW has engaged Mr Kosoric aka resumedomain.com and Mr MacDONALD aka NEWPORT AVIATION.... via new disguise....looks like they have started via baggage in NZ... LAMES be aware
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Firstly, The title of Manager at Qf is given to anyone who is happy to be a puppet or a nascissus
Heard that one of the larger Dmm's in CNS is also headed to LA,maybe for some check-in training,don't think he would fit in a tug.
Hopefully with his new skills he will leave engineering and manage check-in some where,or maybe he is using this as an alternative to pick up chicks instead of those nasty online dating services
Don't forget boys these 2 blokes up north are happy to go to work while you are out getting them a better pay deal
Heard that one of the larger Dmm's in CNS is also headed to LA,maybe for some check-in training,don't think he would fit in a tug.
Hopefully with his new skills he will leave engineering and manage check-in some where,or maybe he is using this as an alternative to pick up chicks instead of those nasty online dating services
Don't forget boys these 2 blokes up north are happy to go to work while you are out getting them a better pay deal
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A reminder to everyone that the PIA ballot closes on Wednesday 13/04/11 at 10am.
Please encourage everyone to vote (whatever their vote maybe).
The results will be officially published on the Fair Work Australia website.
Here's an example of a recent ballot that failed to get the required 50% percent returned votes. NUW and Qantas Airways Limited
Please encourage everyone to vote (whatever their vote maybe).
The results will be officially published on the Fair Work Australia website.
Here's an example of a recent ballot that failed to get the required 50% percent returned votes. NUW and Qantas Airways Limited
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The BE AL-L and end all in CNS.
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