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Old 21st Nov 2011, 07:18
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Fed Sec SP has stated on nine news

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The dispute between Qantas and the engineers will also now be sorted out through arbitration, the engineers' union's Steve Purvinas says.
"We have made some progress during our negotiations but four or five matters do remain outstanding and we think at this stage it's probably best if we go to arbitration to sort them out," Mr Purvinas told reporters outside Fair Work Australia in Sydney.

"So we won't be seeking a 21-day extension
That is odd, just watching the Channel 9 News as I saw you post, we are an hour delayed due to daylight savings, and not only NO appearance from SP, but they said several times that it was ONLY between the TWU, Pilots and Qantas.

Has SP done a late deal.
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 07:31
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Saw SP speak on ABC news. If only 4 or 5 things outstanding in a fairly thick EBA agreement, maybe we are 90% in agreement and are happy to let FWA sort out the rest.

The interesting point will be which 4 or 5 things are outstanding!
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 08:15
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Originally Posted by Syd eng
Just came over the news on the radio that all 3 unions have failed to come to agreement. Will be interesting to see how long it takes now. What happens if we are still in arbitration when they announce redundancies?
If there has been no Determination by FWA and redundancies are announced/initiated, then QF must abide by the current enterprise agreement and the terms around reduundancy/change management/consultation etc.
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 10:39
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Mr Joyce said Qantas would be happy to accept the decision of FWA and he called on the unions to do the same.
Of course because he already knows the outcome the fix is in for Qantas Workers.
Meanwhile the nurse,s in Victoria have given FWA an arse kicking.
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 11:08
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Qantas booked lockout notices before grounding fleet: couriers

Qantas booked lockout notices before grounding fleet: couriers - Business (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 11:48
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The Plot Thickens

If reports aired on the ABC are correct, the ALAEA will have a strengthened case during arbitration that QF has not been negotiating 'in good faith' as required by the FWA act.

"Where there is smoke, there is fire" and the smoke is getting pretty thick. Couriers have testified that they were booked as early as Thursday 28th Oct, well before Joyce had stated in public that he was starting to think about grounding the airline. Interesting enough though, it was about the same time that a letter went to Jetstar to prepare for QF's grounding.

Stay tuned, there is more to be revealed and some investigative journalists have the scent.
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 11:54
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This Thread should be renamed Qf LAME EBA Negotiations are Now Over
This expert must know more than I do. You wouldn't be an aviation expert by any chance?
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 12:24
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Come on Steve. Whats happened?
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Old 21st Nov 2011, 13:06
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Lubrication needs

Will a handful of "Snow White" be enough, or will we need a cartridge of Aeroshell 33 ?

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Old 21st Nov 2011, 19:13
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Does the move to arbitration mean that the union is now allowed to speak with its members in regards to any of EA issues? or is it still a closed shop with only the company commenting on any issues?
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The fat lady has yet to sing! ( FGNLT. DYEFKT)

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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 03:38
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90% agreement, info meeting next week possibly!

Check your emails, FedSec has posted. Basic info - 90% agreement, 4 - 5 items still to be sorted by FWA if agreement can't be sorted before. Next date in FWA 1st Dec.

Interesting thing will be which 4 - 5 items outstanding; job security, renumeration, quotas, LAMEless Tarmac, redundancy?????
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 03:47
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Interesting thing will be which 4 - 5 items outstanding; job security, renumeration, quotas, LAMEless Tarmac, redundancy?????
  1. Job Security - Not negotiable. Forget job security, unless you have a seat on the board.
  2. Remuneration - Standard 3%. Very surprised if more.
  3. Quotas - Reduced
  4. LAMEless tarmacs - Domestic first, following J*'s example. Unsure about International, as ALL carriers at S.I.T. have LAME's on their aircraft.
  5. See point 3. 1,000 mentioned in August (although mainly cabin crew), more to follow soon after the FWA decisions and rumour has it April 2012. Numbers? Don't know.
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 04:41
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No forced redundancies ......Not negotiable !!

(Insurance policy to be doubling of all existing redundancy provisions !)

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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 07:39
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If anyone needs some cheering up, this will get you laughing.
Some of the tweets are Hilarious

Fail! Qantas red-faced after Twittter campaign backfires

Fail! Qantas red-faced after Twitter campaign backfires | News.com.au
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 07:47
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Quote from #qantasluxury:
" @alexmillier: Alan Joyce now seeking an injunction to ground twittter due to #qantasluxury fiasco. Twittter farts in his general direction. ..."

"#QantasLuxury. Breaking News. Alan Joice has grounded twittter and locked out all twittter staff until the tweets stop."
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 07:54
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It didn't take long to hit youtube

qantas-twitter_downfall.wmv - YouTube
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Very funny, can see certain likeness.
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Did anyone else see the bollocking that QF copped on Sunrise this morning regarding it's latest PR disaster?? The sokeswoman commentating hit the nail on the head perfectly.

The tide is turning!!!
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hewlett

you forgot the "yah" and he will be doing some time in the big house
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