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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 04:09
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The tide has been turning for a long while now, unfortunately the governement and FWA still pander to the corporations despite public opinion

On other matters there is something in the wind, I can just smell it and it smells rotten.......................rotten to the core
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 04:20
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Did anyone else see the bollocking that QF copped on Sunrise this morning regarding it's latest PR disaster??
That would have to be a first !! Perhaps Koche sold all his QF sahres and now is happy to have QF trashed on the program?

The PR machine is an ineffective embarressment. In standard QF fashion of late almost anything they touch turns to ****e.
How much is Wirthless paid? How much are the 4 new media Trolls getting paid? More wasted money on incompetent staff, less chance of shareholder dividends !

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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 05:35
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An Irishman wants a job, but the board won't hire him until he passes a little math test.

Here is your first question, the board said. "Without using numbers, represent the number 9."

"Without numbers?" The Irishman says? "Dat is easy." And proceeds to draw three trees.

"What's this?" they ask.

"Have you ain't got no brain? Tree and tree plus tree makes 9" says the Irishman.

"Fair enough," says the board. "Here's your second question. Use the same rules, but this time the number is 99."

The Irishman stares into space for a while, then picks up the picture that he has just drawn and makes a smudge on each tree... "Ere you go."

The board scratches their heads and says, "How on earth do you get that to represent 99?"

"Each of da trees is dirty now. So, it's dirty tree, and dirty tree, plus dirty tree. Dat makes 99."

The board gets excited as this is the kind of genius they want.
"All right, last question. Same rules again, but represent the number 100."

The Irishman stares into space some more, then he picks up the picture again and makes a little mark at the base of each tree and says, "Ere you go. One hundred."

The board looks at the attempt. "You must be nuts if you think that represents a hundred!"

The Irishman leans forward and points to the marks at the base of each tree and whispers, "A little dog come along and poop by each tree.
So now you got dirty tree and a turd, dirty tree and a turd, and dirty tree and a turd, which makes ONE HUNDRED!"

The Irishman then grounded the airline then asked the public to comment on what they like about the airline on a social network. Priceless.
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Old 25th Nov 2011, 19:22
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Any actual news about what is happening?

Everything has gone very quiet.
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Old 25th Nov 2011, 23:59
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New notice on ALAEA web site 25/11 not going to get to vote on any deal so does it really matter anyway.
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 01:27
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You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 07:05
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You will get to vote if you come along to a meeting.
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 07:11
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You will get to vote if you come along to a meeting.
Cool, I will try to get to a meeting then.

Seriously, any news you can share?
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 08:23
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Bake em slow

Any plan B after this one failed?
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 08:53
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I, for one, have run out of olive branches.
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 08:54
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How about

Spit the dummy, CEO style and cling onto loose words by a TWU official after the AGM as justification ?

Sounds like a plan.
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 09:41
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This sound familiar?

The big squeeze on small business | Herald Sun

Change the brands and some of the names and you have QANTAS!

"Suppliers claim that's how Coles executives, many recently arrived from the UK, describe Australia, because of their generous remuneration packages."

"While the public service bloats and the number of ministerial advisers in Canberra skyrockets, out in the real world, productivity growth has collapsed and people are hurting."

"Times are tough, and consumers are counting their pennies. Last week at Woolworths' annual general meeting, chairman James Strong (below) described 2011 as "undoubtedly one of the most challenging years the retail sector has seen for some time".

The battle of the big supermarkets for a shrinking consumer dollar is taking its toll. Coles, headed by a new team of gun retailers from the UK, including Australia's highest-paid chief executive Ian "$15 million man" McLeod, is battling Woolworths for supremacy, slashing prices and shrinking shelf space to make way for their own home brands.

Woolworths has followed suit, with plans to double its Home Brand range, meaning suppliers have to compete for shelf space with the very people who own it."

""The consumer is going to ultimately be the big loser in Australia," he said.

Heinz has already closed its tomato processing plant in Girgarre, in the Goulburn Valley, with a loss of 146 jobs, and downsized two other facilities."
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 09:47
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Any plan B after this one failed?
Must know something I'm unaware of....
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 13:48
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so these coles and woolworths executives will be demanding more money?
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 21:16
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jethro....what a boof head,tells airsupport to look at a notice but fails to read it himself,the outcome is what to be expected given the fact of what happened a few weeks ago....not what was expected but it happened and we must live with it ....see you at the meeting Steve,and thanks...the rim
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 21:19
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plan B

i would expect this is PLAN "B"
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 00:07
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rim the notice says.
The proposal is what it is and the meetings will not be used to amend the terms.
In other words vote yes vote no what will it matter FWA will decide in the end.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 04:29
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My reading of the situation is that we will get a vote. The ALAEA have a proposal from the company which is like "a **** sandwich with mayo" on it, hence Qantas are willing to allow paid meetings at work.

The exec. are willing to let us hear what the proposal is and have a say. The vote will be do we accept said sandwich, or do we roll the dice and take what FWA dishes up.

It is what it is, but for sure the exec have looked out for our, and aviation's, best interests the whole way. The exec should be applauded for their efforts.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 09:24
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As Piot Bord says.... "It is what it is".

Complaints will ONLY be entertained from ALAEA members who unsuccessfully stood for election at the last executive elections.

If others think they could of done better, let them say why THEY didn't try !!!

ST

And besides, Susan Boyle hasn't sung yet !
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 09:53
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If this is the end of the battle, as we know it, the war will continue.

The whole deal is Un-Australian.

They will become the Un-Australian Airline that no one will fly on.

All we want is a fair go.

They do not deserve to prevail, and they will not, in the end.

There are many ways to skin a Cat, or a CEO, or a Director, or a Takeover Merchant.

There will be No Reconciliation, and, definitely, No Engagement, in the foreseeable future.

Suck it up and wait for the next volley.

They can give us more of the same but they will destroy themselves.
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