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Old 12th Oct 2011, 08:12
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King William III,

Maybe blood is thicker than water. I can confirm that Olivia's uncle is a LAME with over 40 years service, but, being that close to retirement, wouldn't a nice redundancy package be lovely.... Then again I'm probably giving her way more credit than she would deserve.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 08:15
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You're forgetting what part of the operation is actually making money for the airline - DOMESTIC!!!!!!!
Until the short haul Pilot's EBA negotiations commence next year.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 08:43
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Not $170,000

I earned $108,000 gross last financial year.

12hr 24/7/365 roster

16yrs QF service

10yrs as a LAME

LAME on 2 aircraft types

Just sayin
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 08:59
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Keep up the great work FedSec, heard you on the radio and was very impressed, I think the Qantas management spin is starting to be seen for what it is!! Bring on the AGM!! ...its astonishing to watch qantas management alienate their entire workforce!!! Maybe the managers shoud all publish their 'engagement' results!!
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 09:00
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I earned $108,000 gross last financial year.
12hr 24/7/365 roster
16yrs QF service
10yrs as a LAME
LAME on 2 aircraft types
Just sayin
So you got paid less then a Jetstar LAME with 1 licence on day 1.

Greedy unionist are you!
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 09:13
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I earned $108,000 gross last financial year.
12hr 24/7/365 roster
16yrs QF service
10yrs as a LAME
LAME on 2 aircraft types
Just sayin
So you got paid less then a Jetstar LAME with 1 licence on day 1.

Greedy unionist are you!
And that Jetstar LAME got paid less than a Virgin Tech LAME with 1 licence on day 1.

And thats a fact, not a complaint and not $170,000
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 11:10
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At least the brothers at Jetstar will have job security. You know, with all the QF pax heading off to other airlines their business will be booming.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 11:26
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whilst we voted for the ALAEA to unamiously fight for job security, Exactly how does spruking to the media to fly with another operator confirm our employment?
As a fully paid member my support was 100% behind the fedsec and the ALAEA.
JUST REMEBER SP IF WERE OUT OF A JOB SO ARE YOU.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 12:03
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whilst we voted for the ALAEA to unamiously fight for job security, Exactly how does spruking to the media to fly with another operator confirm our employment?
Remember its not about disrupting the passenger, If that means they need to fly on another carrier temporarily, so be it. Will QF lose some passengers permanently? Probably.

Remember overtime has been offered to avoid disruption to the passengers, but has been rejected.

As a fully paid member my support was 100% behind the fedsec and the ALAEA.
JUST REMEBER SP IF WERE OUT OF A JOB SO ARE YOU.
SP doesn't work for QF anymore and the ALAEA represents all LAME's in this country not just Qantas employed ones.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 12:23
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JUST REMEBER SP IF WERE OUT OF A JOB SO ARE YOU.
Got that.

I note Griffin that before we kicked off that you were calling for immediate strike action numerous times. We are doing that slowly by cranking the action up each week. Your option or the chosen one, labour is being withdrawn.

Do you think our action will be more successful with option

a) union strikes, passengers get to destinations late, company keeps your pay and the money for the airfares.

or

b) union strikes, passengers get to destination on time on other airline, company keeps your pay but loses the airfares.

In case you missed the Joyce announcement in Aug, they are winding up the airline in favour of new entities in Asia. They started turning pax away years ago when they allowed the International market share to drop from 38% to 18% because they dropped destinations and frequencies. I can tell you are a passionate member but it may just be appropriate to take stock for a bit and look at the bigger picture.

When the dispute ends and they do commit to maintenance and an airline in Australia, there will be no more powerful an image than the union leaders shaking hands smiling with the CEO, whoever that may be, as we work together to rebuild the airline we all love. That's when the passengers will come back.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 13:29
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From a QF techie, well said Steve. Love your work.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 23:03
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At least the brothers at Jetstar will have job security. You know, with all the QF pax heading off to other airlines their business will be booming.
Yeah, but they'll have to learn to make their own decisions and fix their own problems….not run to Big Brother for help and advice like they did with their A320 earlier this week…..anyone else see that on the workload….??………no doubt for free, of course!!

( yep, that's right, A320 !! Go figure!!)
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 23:50
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Just been thru the QF offer thats been on the table since March and still is.

3%

a clause to 'discuss' doing IFE work.

a clause to 'discuss' a380 Heavy Maint

EASA training for the 'chosen ones' only.

Now put that with Nastyswines notice last week that QF lame's won't be doing the IFE on reconfig a/c, that makes it now

3%

No IFE work

we'll 'discuss' with you why we've decided to not give you the a380 HM chks.

EASA training for a small few



I'll save the moderator the trouble from disciplining me for some serious swearing by ending my transmission now.
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 02:03
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Whether we like it or not, the only way to make any progress in this is to affect profits.

The first time the QF executives actually got upset was with SP comments about flying another airline. It seemed up until then, everything was going exactly as they planned.

They will have a budget for this dispute, until we breach that budget they will not negotiate. Knowing the kamikaze CEO we have, the budget for this is probably $500M. The quicker we get there, the quicker we can negotiate.
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 02:23
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Keep up the good work Fed Sec..
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 02:55
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well said toolpants
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 02:57
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I'm with JT9, keep up the good work Steve. It takes me time to get rid of a tuff nugget. It's gonna be the same with AJ!
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 06:52
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Don't Be stupid

I think its all gone to far. When union leaders advise the public to not fly Qantas it means they have lost it. Don't make this an ego trip you are playing with peoples lives and you are doing it very carelessly. We may be managed by a poor team at the moment but the union is killing us in both the eye's of the public and the union members. Hopefully members will stand up at tomorrows meeting and voice their concern at where we are heading. Unions can never loose - if the company goes broke or sacks everyone the Union will say it was the companies fault, If we get a good outcome the Union will pat themselves on the back. Before you attack me have a long think about what is happening and how the leadership is handling it and no I am not a manager but a concerned Sydney Base LAME.
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 07:24
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Question

Well done to Steve and all the team , you must all remember this is not a battle fought by a few , the union is only a backbone and without a body supporting it it is crippled .So one and all Lames stand tall and with pride and be a body of one with your support to the ALAEA

Just a thought when there is a stalemate between parties how about a debate between the ALAEA and Qantas over the EBA , with a live web feed for all to watch

Also is the rumor true that Virgin will accept Qantas Staff Travel Bonus Voucher $250 and $200 ones
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Old 13th Oct 2011, 07:30
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Just been watching AJ on the News, incredible, he was appealing to the Unions to return to negotiations and with lower demands, this from someone who just received a 71 percent pay rise.
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