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Running for the senate
Has anyone seriously considered running for the senate at a fed level?
We have many small interest groups in the upper houses in some states.
I think with the level of public debate and reporting (appalling) it is about time to make the pollies take notice by stealing a seat at the table.
We have numerous smart operators here that would present well with vast experience both here and overseas that could make a difference to our chosen industry.
We wont be taken seriously until we get a real seat at the table. The Australian Aviation party or similar fighting to maintain highly skilled jobs, training, standards & maintenance in a strategic industry is in the national interest. The public are so ignorant of the way the industry runs and are easily duped by spin and a biased press working in tandem with vested interests.
We have many small interest groups in the upper houses in some states.
I think with the level of public debate and reporting (appalling) it is about time to make the pollies take notice by stealing a seat at the table.
We have numerous smart operators here that would present well with vast experience both here and overseas that could make a difference to our chosen industry.
We wont be taken seriously until we get a real seat at the table. The Australian Aviation party or similar fighting to maintain highly skilled jobs, training, standards & maintenance in a strategic industry is in the national interest. The public are so ignorant of the way the industry runs and are easily duped by spin and a biased press working in tandem with vested interests.
Ampclamp:
Now that my friend is a good suggestion.
You could set your platform to appeal; to union members or folk who identify with Unions, or would like to be unionised.
Your support base starts with the Electrical Trades Union, the CFMEU and perhaps the ALAEA if the ALP does the dirty. This would split the ALP vote and ensure that the ALP was never going to get a Senate majority without Union support
You could run candidates in each state and it would drive Labor nuts. To be eligible to stand as a party candidate you have to be a working person and a Union member, specifically, you cannot be a former labour party apparatchik like most of them are. Union official would also be OK.
The platform would be to oppose anything that hurts working Australians and unions. You can be protectionist because by 2014, the world will be retreating once more into protectionism, although they will pretend they aren't. You can also talk re-industrialisation - bringing work back from China, because that will be all the rage by then as well.
You can sit on the cross benches, deal with the greens etc. to provide a counterweight to the big business interest that have Labor and the Liberals by the balls.
Make your platform "Real Labor" or "New Labor" or "Union Party".
Theme: "For working Australians"
Has anyone seriously considered running for the senate at a fed level?
You could set your platform to appeal; to union members or folk who identify with Unions, or would like to be unionised.
Your support base starts with the Electrical Trades Union, the CFMEU and perhaps the ALAEA if the ALP does the dirty. This would split the ALP vote and ensure that the ALP was never going to get a Senate majority without Union support
You could run candidates in each state and it would drive Labor nuts. To be eligible to stand as a party candidate you have to be a working person and a Union member, specifically, you cannot be a former labour party apparatchik like most of them are. Union official would also be OK.
The platform would be to oppose anything that hurts working Australians and unions. You can be protectionist because by 2014, the world will be retreating once more into protectionism, although they will pretend they aren't. You can also talk re-industrialisation - bringing work back from China, because that will be all the rage by then as well.
You can sit on the cross benches, deal with the greens etc. to provide a counterweight to the big business interest that have Labor and the Liberals by the balls.
Make your platform "Real Labor" or "New Labor" or "Union Party".
Theme: "For working Australians"
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Sunfish that is a brilliant idea . Both major parties are for them self. They don't give a rats a!!!. if the work is outsourced or exec get a fat pay packet.. Non of them said boo.
in the parliament when Aj and Co got a fat pay rise.. As long as they have their nose in the trough. that’s what it counts. Remember only the independents have supported us. Labor govt has been a big let down. It is time for the working Aust to be represented by some one who cares for Aust workers. If we loose this battle it will be the end of decent Aust jobs. Every thing will be outsourced and no decent aviation jobs will be left in this place. AJ and Co will be gone in 5 years taking their fat payment to screw another Co We the workers will have to pick up the crap they would leave us. Hope the stars are on our side this time.
in the parliament when Aj and Co got a fat pay rise.. As long as they have their nose in the trough. that’s what it counts. Remember only the independents have supported us. Labor govt has been a big let down. It is time for the working Aust to be represented by some one who cares for Aust workers. If we loose this battle it will be the end of decent Aust jobs. Every thing will be outsourced and no decent aviation jobs will be left in this place. AJ and Co will be gone in 5 years taking their fat payment to screw another Co We the workers will have to pick up the crap they would leave us. Hope the stars are on our side this time.
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Guess Steve is a little busy, apparently all industrial action by the ALAEA called off for the rest of this month, hopefully means Qantas are finally talking. 
My guess is QF is still not talking. Looks like Steve tactically is removing any impetus for the Govt to intervene therefore keeping the blowtorch firmly on the QF CEO and Board leading up to the AGM...
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FEDSEC
As stated i am 100% behind our union and the fedsec, i have taken stock and had a readjustment.Maybe a weak moment and media spin.
I understand the the reasons why and as usual on pprune anyone that posts any opinion other than what is the majority gets shot down.
keep fighting and ill keep supporting and paying my dues.
As stated i am 100% behind our union and the fedsec, i have taken stock and had a readjustment.Maybe a weak moment and media spin.
I understand the the reasons why and as usual on pprune anyone that posts any opinion other than what is the majority gets shot down.
keep fighting and ill keep supporting and paying my dues.
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Can't wait to see the shareholders 'explode' at the AGM!!!
Lets see if AJ can explain to the Australian people why he hasn't paid a single dividend in three years when he's quite willing to waste money on a ridiculous industrial campaigns with not only one Union but three!!!
Maintain the rage!!!
Lets see if AJ can explain to the Australian people why he hasn't paid a single dividend in three years when he's quite willing to waste money on a ridiculous industrial campaigns with not only one Union but three!!!
Maintain the rage!!!
Don't lose faith
Looks like the strategy is working..
Check out this article:
QANTAS Shareholders concerned over Joyces payrise
We wouldn't want to spoil the party at the AGM now would we by overcooking things?
Overtime bans are doing their job nicely.
Well done Steve on your decision to cool things down.
Check out this article:
QANTAS Shareholders concerned over Joyces payrise
We wouldn't want to spoil the party at the AGM now would we by overcooking things?
Overtime bans are doing their job nicely.
Well done Steve on your decision to cool things down.
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Far from me to do the Mods job. But isn't it about time all this QF industrial angst was moved to Jetblast forum where interested parties can thump tables to their heart's content?
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The DG&P Reporting Points charter is at the top of the page: Airline and RPT issues in Australia, enZed and the Pacific. IMHO Qantas IR issues fit that category, fairly and squarely. Many Qantas and non-Qantas aviation workers are interested in the issue and how it all pans out.
If you aren't (and it's a free country), surely you can avoid reading the threads concerned? Their titles are all self explanatory, particularly this one.
If you aren't (and it's a free country), surely you can avoid reading the threads concerned? Their titles are all self explanatory, particularly this one.