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It's not happening
I didn't make it into a training position. Pretty shattered....:-(
Can't believe it really. Still needs to sink in..
Henriette
For everyone who is from the Brisbane test days end of August: congrats!
Can't believe it really. Still needs to sink in..
Henriette
For everyone who is from the Brisbane test days end of August: congrats!
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SPIDER27,
I'm in Melbourne.
I received the same email on the 17 Aug as well.
Then received another email on 9 Sep asking me to book for a phone interview online.
My phone interview was on 12 Sep. Then this morning I got an email inviting me to the assessment centre in Brisbane next week...
Why don't you log-in to the application and check?
I'm in Melbourne.
I received the same email on the 17 Aug as well.
Then received another email on 9 Sep asking me to book for a phone interview online.
My phone interview was on 12 Sep. Then this morning I got an email inviting me to the assessment centre in Brisbane next week...
Why don't you log-in to the application and check?
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jetdownunder: yeah, me either. Didn't even ring my referees. I'm pretty sad too.
I think I stuffed up on the IQ test (the computerised one with the weird symbols) by being too careful, I bet I got them all correct, but I only got about 2/3 of the way through, and of course that one with the big plane and questions about where it is in relation to the little plane (don't want to give away too much for those who haven't done it).
Condolences. You seemed to want it even more than me.
At least you like your existing career.
Hmm, I wonder what other career I'd be good at...
I think I stuffed up on the IQ test (the computerised one with the weird symbols) by being too careful, I bet I got them all correct, but I only got about 2/3 of the way through, and of course that one with the big plane and questions about where it is in relation to the little plane (don't want to give away too much for those who haven't done it).
Condolences. You seemed to want it even more than me.
At least you like your existing career.
Hmm, I wonder what other career I'd be good at...
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@ergaster2: are you also asking for feedback? I want to know what it is that makes them think I am not a good fit for the role. You always learn from that kind of information.
I know 100% sure that I would have successfully gone through the training and the job. There is not a single cell in my body not convinced about that. My environment (including ATC friends) keep telling me that I am perfect for this job, and so motivated, but hey...that doesn't count!
Because.....there is always this assessment! It's a moment, a carefully designed test, a snap shot of your skills and work style, and.....the way it is set up there is also the human factor of the assessors. I seem to be a bad performer in assessments. I have done a few and at least twice I am hired for a very good role, despite the assessment results not being ideal, or at least ambiguous. Haha, I must be a complicated person! Luckily, in further interviews and real time conversations I always seem to get through. A simulated environment, or test setting, just isn't the real deal and I seem to have little imagination to be able to "forget" that.
I believe I either failed on the reaction test (plane position, how frustrating being a very visual person), or it's a decision based on human factors (as in the opinion/judgement of the assessors). I'll find out in a few weeks.
I feel we were unlucky in that we were challenged by the technology on that day (22 August). Also, I find it a little disappointing that I didn't have the interview with the person that was on my schedule. It felt a bit rushed and not so well prepared (my interview).
Whatever way, I have to acknowledge the outcome, no matter how hard it is to see a life long dream shattered. You know what? Life must have better plans ready for me. How exciting!!
Fortunately I started on a very good contract role recently. Hopefully it will be so exciting that I will forget about the dissappointment soon.
I wish all the future applicants all the best with their assessment day, once through to that stage. Just be yourself, and prepare yourself in such a way that you can peak perform (i.e. sleep, be on time, prepare your route, etc...).
Whatever is....is.
Ciao, Henriette
I know 100% sure that I would have successfully gone through the training and the job. There is not a single cell in my body not convinced about that. My environment (including ATC friends) keep telling me that I am perfect for this job, and so motivated, but hey...that doesn't count!
Because.....there is always this assessment! It's a moment, a carefully designed test, a snap shot of your skills and work style, and.....the way it is set up there is also the human factor of the assessors. I seem to be a bad performer in assessments. I have done a few and at least twice I am hired for a very good role, despite the assessment results not being ideal, or at least ambiguous. Haha, I must be a complicated person! Luckily, in further interviews and real time conversations I always seem to get through. A simulated environment, or test setting, just isn't the real deal and I seem to have little imagination to be able to "forget" that. I believe I either failed on the reaction test (plane position, how frustrating being a very visual person), or it's a decision based on human factors (as in the opinion/judgement of the assessors). I'll find out in a few weeks.
I feel we were unlucky in that we were challenged by the technology on that day (22 August). Also, I find it a little disappointing that I didn't have the interview with the person that was on my schedule. It felt a bit rushed and not so well prepared (my interview).
Whatever way, I have to acknowledge the outcome, no matter how hard it is to see a life long dream shattered. You know what? Life must have better plans ready for me. How exciting!!
Fortunately I started on a very good contract role recently. Hopefully it will be so exciting that I will forget about the dissappointment soon.
I wish all the future applicants all the best with their assessment day, once through to that stage. Just be yourself, and prepare yourself in such a way that you can peak perform (i.e. sleep, be on time, prepare your route, etc...).
Whatever is....is.
Ciao, Henriette
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Hey guys just thought that I'd post that I was another one that didn't get through from the July assessment day. I agree with you jetdownunder, I believe that I could have pushed through the training no matter how hard because of my motivation. I do and always have had a real interest in aviation and, i know what I think doesn't count for much, but I really think that a persons motivation for getting the job should be a factor (even if a very small one) in the selection process. According to the assessments, I failed on the "following instruction, policies and procedures" criteria, which is ironic as my last two jobs have heavily involved following, implementing and training people policies and procedures. But unfortunately we cant do anything about it. I guess Ill save up and continue my pilot studies. One thing I do know for sure is that no matter what I'm doing, I will be applying in another 12 months. Just hopefully then I wont get rejected for "being pre-briefed and too prepared" for the assessment day haha. Well done to those who have been selected and I wish you all the best in your studies!!!
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Hey Mat00. Thanks for your reply. It's always supportive to hear that you are not going through things on your own....
Yes, ironic that it was the "not following procedures and processes" bit for you! Who knows, maybe it is the same for me! That would really surprise me if it was because I am very aware of the necessity that following the procedure and applying what you have been trained in is THE attribute probably most valuable in the job. And I have always stressed that in any conversation. I have the feedback only end of the month. I wished it was immediately, or at least not weeks after the result. Wonder if I still want to know then
I am not sure I will apply again; it all depends on what the reasons are I didn't succeed. And also depends on the situation I will be in at the time. Who knows what life is like in a years time? Also, I have already had 2 previous assessment days (one Air Services Australia old style, the other 20 years ago in Amsterdam). On the other hand, my desire to be an ATC is still there, even after 20 years!!! I can't see a plane fly over without feeling the passion....
Anyway, thanks for your reply and good luck with dealing with the dissappointment.
Yes, ironic that it was the "not following procedures and processes" bit for you! Who knows, maybe it is the same for me! That would really surprise me if it was because I am very aware of the necessity that following the procedure and applying what you have been trained in is THE attribute probably most valuable in the job. And I have always stressed that in any conversation. I have the feedback only end of the month. I wished it was immediately, or at least not weeks after the result. Wonder if I still want to know then
I am not sure I will apply again; it all depends on what the reasons are I didn't succeed. And also depends on the situation I will be in at the time. Who knows what life is like in a years time? Also, I have already had 2 previous assessment days (one Air Services Australia old style, the other 20 years ago in Amsterdam). On the other hand, my desire to be an ATC is still there, even after 20 years!!! I can't see a plane fly over without feeling the passion....
Anyway, thanks for your reply and good luck with dealing with the dissappointment.
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Indeed Jetdownunder, its nice to know your not alone. I'm sure it will be helpful to know what criteria you didn't pass, as hard as it is hearing the feedback, if you treat it as constructive criticism then it will no doubt benefit you in the long run.
I was previously in the mindset that "if I don't get the job then it just means that I'm not right for the position" but since hearing the feedback I have decided that I still want to pursue the career, as I only missed out by such a small margin, which could have been due to a number of factors on that particular day.
If your keen on getting this career then keep striving for it. Maybe even start flying (if you haven't already got your PPL) because, if not anything else, you may find that you get your aviation fix through that. I'm currently doing mine and am loving every second of it.
I was previously in the mindset that "if I don't get the job then it just means that I'm not right for the position" but since hearing the feedback I have decided that I still want to pursue the career, as I only missed out by such a small margin, which could have been due to a number of factors on that particular day.
If your keen on getting this career then keep striving for it. Maybe even start flying (if you haven't already got your PPL) because, if not anything else, you may find that you get your aviation fix through that. I'm currently doing mine and am loving every second of it.
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Sorry to hear you guys who didn't make it. I'm waiting for the outcome of the test day (7th of September). I hope it's a positive indication that at least one of my referees got called.... I suppose this would not happen with negative testday results..... Does ASA generally (or always) contact both referees? Do we have anybody here who got through from the test days end August /early September ???
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Having done my assessment today, there's one piece of advice I'd offer to those being assessed in Brisbane that hasn't been mentioned here. Get in the left hand lane on Airport drive, where the signs say domestic terminal (don't follow the signs to the terminal), other wise you'll end up on Lomandra drive trying to get through the traffic at the terminal and have to back track and hang a u-turn to get to where you're going. Good luck to the guys I met today and all the other applicants.
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Hi,
I applied for ATC in training at the end of July
I completed the online testing on Thursday.
And I received a phone call today requesting a phone interview time for tomorrow morning.
The woman on the phone also said she would be asking me questions to do with ATC work scenarios...
Does anyone have any information regarding what is asked during this phone interview?
It kind of sounds like a formality because she was asking me if I was available at a certain date for the assessment day.....
Or is it more than this?
I applied for ATC in training at the end of July
I completed the online testing on Thursday.
And I received a phone call today requesting a phone interview time for tomorrow morning.
The woman on the phone also said she would be asking me questions to do with ATC work scenarios...
Does anyone have any information regarding what is asked during this phone interview?
It kind of sounds like a formality because she was asking me if I was available at a certain date for the assessment day.....
Or is it more than this?
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Hey dncn1, congrats on getting this far 
It doesn't sound like the phone interview I had about a year ago now, but it might have changed. But I wouldn't try and find out too much about what they're going to ask you, since it has been mentioned on here that people haven't made it through because they had obviously been coached, so just be yourself and give it your best shot
It doesn't sound like the phone interview I had about a year ago now, but it might have changed. But I wouldn't try and find out too much about what they're going to ask you, since it has been mentioned on here that people haven't made it through because they had obviously been coached, so just be yourself and give it your best shot
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Interesting, I didn't get a phone call to book my phone interview, I did it online. I'm pretty sure I didn't get any ATC scenario questions in the phone interview either. Their recruitment seems to be evolving before our eyes, either that or one of your friends is winding you up
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Fatty182 is right, just be yourself. You're either right for ATC or not. There's no point getting into the job because you've faked it and then not making it through the training.
Just out of interest dncn1, what stream did you apply for, en-route or tower?
.Fatty182 is right, just be yourself. You're either right for ATC or not. There's no point getting into the job because you've faked it and then not making it through the training.
Just out of interest dncn1, what stream did you apply for, en-route or tower?
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hrm....
Well if I remember correctly I didn't exactly have the option to select one during the online application. There was a box you could tick asking whether you would like to be considered for a tower position if one is available....
Which I did indicate yes...
But my understanding was En-route was still a possibility...
Well if I remember correctly I didn't exactly have the option to select one during the online application. There was a box you could tick asking whether you would like to be considered for a tower position if one is available....
Which I did indicate yes...
But my understanding was En-route was still a possibility...
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They seem to put people wherever it suits them :P Someone who had previous tower controlling experience was put into enroute.... until a tower spot came up and he was able to swap. But yeah, plenty of people asked for one and got the other, so you never know!
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Has anyone that had their assessment in Brisbane 19th-21st September heard anything yet? Referees contacted? I know they said about 4 weeks, but the referees get called before that.
Not that I'm getting impatient or anything
Not that I'm getting impatient or anything