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Hi All,
This is for anyone in the know.
Airservices has advertised for ATC DELIVERY
SPECIALISTS, Brisbane and Melbourne
locations.
My question is: Is Airservices looking to
ramp up courses run out of Brisbane?
This is how it looks.
Thanks in advance for anyone in the know.
This would would be good as I live in Brisbane.
This is for anyone in the know.
Airservices has advertised for ATC DELIVERY
SPECIALISTS, Brisbane and Melbourne
locations.
My question is: Is Airservices looking to
ramp up courses run out of Brisbane?
This is how it looks.
Thanks in advance for anyone in the know.
This would would be good as I live in Brisbane.
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Just curious, for those that got through, wondering how much be notification you got after getting an offer, before actually starting. Did you get any choice in your start date?
The application form gives us an option to specify that we need four weeks notification with our current employers, but not much more flexibility (it'd be nice to be able to quit my current job a while before starting the training, to get a bit of a holiday.
Thanks,
The application form gives us an option to specify that we need four weeks notification with our current employers, but not much more flexibility (it'd be nice to be able to quit my current job a while before starting the training, to get a bit of a holiday.
Thanks,
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Someone who just started said they got about 9 weeks notice of their start date, and I think mine was about the same at the start of the year, so if it's about the same, you could probably get in a holiday alright 
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not new to the site but thought i would finally sign up.
i applied for the atc role in june and heard back in july and just recently completed my online testing. i'm yet to hear anything further, so i pressume i will sometime get an email stating i have or have not been successful.
is anyone else at the same progress as me?
i applied for the atc role in june and heard back in july and just recently completed my online testing. i'm yet to hear anything further, so i pressume i will sometime get an email stating i have or have not been successful.
is anyone else at the same progress as me?
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Patience
Hi Mclovin2,
I know it doesn't help much but I applied in April, completed the on-line assesment in May/June and have not heard from ASA recruitment since. Some applicants on this forum have indicated that the process can take up to 18 months, knowing this doesn't stop me from wanting to email them to see if I have progressed past the on-line assesment.
I know it doesn't help much but I applied in April, completed the on-line assesment in May/June and have not heard from ASA recruitment since. Some applicants on this forum have indicated that the process can take up to 18 months, knowing this doesn't stop me from wanting to email them to see if I have progressed past the on-line assesment.
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Mclovin2 I'm in pretty much the same situation as you. Applied June and have also just recently completed the online tests.
I'm not expecting to hear anything soon though as I've accepted it is going to be a long process. Like everyone I would love to get some good news though!
Just have to forget about it almost, otherwise the waiting will kill you!
I'm not expecting to hear anything soon though as I've accepted it is going to be a long process. Like everyone I would love to get some good news though!
Just have to forget about it almost, otherwise the waiting will kill you!
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ASA recruitment don't employ a huge number of people, and concurrently with their ab-initio intake they are running a campaign for experienced ATCOs, who must also complete the aptitude testing and interview process. As many of those applicants will be ex-military controllers required to provide the RAAF with 90 days' notice, if they want them starting in 2012, their applications need to be finalised now.
No doubt, they're just busy!
No doubt, they're just busy!
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Hi everybody!
I am new here on the forum, although have peeked a view times!
I have my assessment day in Brisbane soon, and I was just sooooooooooooo excited to hear about the training now also been given in Brisbane. I live 15 minutes from the airport
I have done the "old" assessment test day 3 or 4 years ago, and was so disappointed to have just missed out (got through all the tests quite a bit above the mark, but failed on the last simulation test. I think I was just tired or something???? Who knows.) Went back to work etc., blah, blah........but hey, old dreams and passions never die!!!
I have been wanting to be an ATController since I was 20 years old! Went through all the tests 20 years ago already in Amsterdam and got really far then (last 20 out of 600 or so, they hired 10
). Tests were different again back then. Just as hard!
I am determined to get into the training this (last?) time. I think I really have what it takes, but we will know by the end of the month (hopefully). If not, I at least know I really have given it my everything.... I guess I am living proof you should never give up on your dreams. I have already had a very satisfying and rewarding career (and am still in the middle of it), but this passion seems to keep itching
Hope to have good news on this forum in a few weeks or months time. Great to have met you! (regardless of the future)
I am new here on the forum, although have peeked a view times!
I have my assessment day in Brisbane soon, and I was just sooooooooooooo excited to hear about the training now also been given in Brisbane. I live 15 minutes from the airport
I have done the "old" assessment test day 3 or 4 years ago, and was so disappointed to have just missed out (got through all the tests quite a bit above the mark, but failed on the last simulation test. I think I was just tired or something???? Who knows.) Went back to work etc., blah, blah........but hey, old dreams and passions never die!!!
I have been wanting to be an ATController since I was 20 years old! Went through all the tests 20 years ago already in Amsterdam and got really far then (last 20 out of 600 or so, they hired 10
). Tests were different again back then. Just as hard!I am determined to get into the training this (last?) time. I think I really have what it takes, but we will know by the end of the month (hopefully). If not, I at least know I really have given it my everything.... I guess I am living proof you should never give up on your dreams. I have already had a very satisfying and rewarding career (and am still in the middle of it), but this passion seems to keep itching
Hope to have good news on this forum in a few weeks or months time. Great to have met you! (regardless of the future)
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Not wanting to burst any bubbles, but I wouldn't count on getting a Brisbane spot if you get through, I'm from Brisbane and they sent me to Melbourne, along with a few others, and the most recent course that did start in Brisbane has mostly Melbourne people apparently! Very silly, especially since they pay a moving allowance, they could have saved themselves quite a lot of money.
But I'd consider it a win either way for you, Brisbane means you stay at home, Melbourne, you get to come to the college and be with a lot of other people doing the same thing, which is helpful, plus I've found not being at home has removed a lot of distractions as well!
But I'd consider it a win either way for you, Brisbane means you stay at home, Melbourne, you get to come to the college and be with a lot of other people doing the same thing, which is helpful, plus I've found not being at home has removed a lot of distractions as well!
What's the story with Bris Instructors? Are they full time like the Melbourne set up or are they GTS/NTS (or whatever they are now) or Controllers full time? Are they expected to remain current on their regular groups?
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2011 update
Thanks for all this info guys. I've had my phone interview and I'll have the test day in Brisbane in 3 weeks or so. Does anyone here know a bit more on what to expect during that day? And has it changed since the previous posts? tnx!
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20 years ago in Amsterdam....
@jetdownunder: Are you Dutch too? Hope to see you in Brizzie next month. At the end of the phone interview, I was told I'd get an invite for the test, so no waiting at all for a couple of weeks!
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McLovin2:
If you just completed the online assessment in the last few weeks I wouldn't worry yet. As they say on here, "good news travels as slowly as bad news". I don't see why one couldn't hear back right away after the online test, since it's automated, but maybe they standardise the results, or only have different cut-off scores for people from different cities (for the testing day), or maybe (since it's ran by some external, British, company) it takes a while for them to get the results back. Those would be the only valid reasons I could think of.
Anyway, FWIW, without giving out too much information, my process has been something like this:
mid-March: applied
earl April: finally established that ASA hadn't actually got my application properly, and applied again
end of May: received an invitation to do the online test (I was given about eight days to do it)
mid June (about nine days after the final date for completing the online test): received an email saying I'd been successful, and then soon after an invite to arrange a time for a phone interview
late June: phone interview (I had the choice of times spread out over one week)
early August: invited for the testing day in late August.
So for me the big wait was after the phone interview (even though I was told I would hear back in two or three weeks).
I guess most people who failed wouldn't be on here any more, so we wouldn't really know if it takes longer to get a rejection letter or not. I didn't think I did that well on the online test.
I think the next set of testing days (other than the ones coming up in a week or two) are in Melbourne in late October. If you're not in Melbourne, perhaps they're waiting till there's a testing day in your city.
Cheers,
If you just completed the online assessment in the last few weeks I wouldn't worry yet. As they say on here, "good news travels as slowly as bad news". I don't see why one couldn't hear back right away after the online test, since it's automated, but maybe they standardise the results, or only have different cut-off scores for people from different cities (for the testing day), or maybe (since it's ran by some external, British, company) it takes a while for them to get the results back. Those would be the only valid reasons I could think of.
Anyway, FWIW, without giving out too much information, my process has been something like this:
mid-March: applied
earl April: finally established that ASA hadn't actually got my application properly, and applied again
end of May: received an invitation to do the online test (I was given about eight days to do it)
mid June (about nine days after the final date for completing the online test): received an email saying I'd been successful, and then soon after an invite to arrange a time for a phone interview
late June: phone interview (I had the choice of times spread out over one week)
early August: invited for the testing day in late August.
So for me the big wait was after the phone interview (even though I was told I would hear back in two or three weeks).
I guess most people who failed wouldn't be on here any more, so we wouldn't really know if it takes longer to get a rejection letter or not. I didn't think I did that well on the online test.
I think the next set of testing days (other than the ones coming up in a week or two) are in Melbourne in late October. If you're not in Melbourne, perhaps they're waiting till there's a testing day in your city.
Cheers,
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Recently joined these forums, So hi everyone!
Just posting my ATC application progress so far.
Applied for:
Job ID: 492434 – People & Change - Air Traffic Controller in Training 2011 - Nationally
(not sure what "people & changed" means, but I double checked and it appears to be ATC, if someone can clear this up that would be great.)
Early July: submitted my job application, including resume.
Early August: Completed online SHL tests.
Just posting my ATC application progress so far.
Applied for:
Job ID: 492434 – People & Change - Air Traffic Controller in Training 2011 - Nationally
(not sure what "people & changed" means, but I double checked and it appears to be ATC, if someone can clear this up that would be great.)
Early July: submitted my job application, including resume.
Early August: Completed online SHL tests.
Was really happy with how I went, except for the numerical reasoning test.
Currently Mid August: Waiting for a Email regarding Phone interview.Does anyone know if we didn't get through to the phone interview, will we still receive an email informing us of this?
Thanks and good luck all
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Yes I'm Dutch. I have my test day next Monday. But I didn't get feedback right after the phone interview (which was half July), but was told I would hear from them in a few weeks time, which happened exactly so. Heard 2 weeks or so ago that I could book myself into any 3 days of testing in Brisbane, which is next week!!!! So exciting!
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TEST DAYS
@jetdownunder: congratulations, and nice to see that two people from Holland got this far. Let's go the distance! I got my test day in Brizzie second week of September. Getting more excited with every step in the process. A couple of questions: I fly in from Far North Queensland for the test day (the red eye flight, so that good night sleep before the test is gonna be a short one). I arrive only at Brisbane Domestic at 08:05am and the test day starts at 08:30..... Does anyone know how to get as fast as possible to the test location? How long it takes to get there from Domestic? Where the test location actually is (Airport Avenue is very long.....).
Two more questions: Is it true that courses are also starting to be ran in Brisbane and when do the next courses actually start?
Two more questions: Is it true that courses are also starting to be ran in Brisbane and when do the next courses actually start?
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I arrive only at Brisbane Domestic at 08:05am and the test day starts at 08:30
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@ willadvise
Thanks for your "professional" opinion. Forking out 300 bucks to attend a test day is already expensive enough (for me, at present). Add a hotel to it and it becomes unaffordable. And I have several other reasons why I'm forced to choose this option. So "utter madness" is not helpful, nor constructive. Without you knowing me or my circumstances, this qualification is offensive. You've left my questions unanswered. So maybe you could consider changing your screen name?
Is there anybody else around here who has some answers for me please?
Is there anybody else around here who has some answers for me please?
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Ask23: Don't be too defensive there.... I've done the flight from CNS to BNE, and I have also done the testing. There would be no way that I would consider doing both on the same day.
Plenty of sacrifices to be made if you wish to progress through the college and field. I believe that if you can't fork out for a cheap hotel and another half day off to be prepared then maybe it is not the best time.
Perhaps not "utter madness", but don't you want to give yourself every opportunity?
Plenty of sacrifices to be made if you wish to progress through the college and field. I believe that if you can't fork out for a cheap hotel and another half day off to be prepared then maybe it is not the best time.
Perhaps not "utter madness", but don't you want to give yourself every opportunity?
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Brisbane ATC Course Instructors
What's the story with Bris Instructors? Are they full time like the Melbourne set up or are they GTS/NTS (or whatever they are now) or Controllers full time? Are they expected to remain current on their regular groups?
The courses in Brissie are run by a combination of ATC Instructors based in Brissie and some of the Brissie simulator TGOs, who have instructor qualifications (and are often ex-ATCs as well) do a lot of the classroom. All sim is conducted by ATC instructors. The ATC instructors are full time and not part of the groups.
Currently two courses are being run in Brissie at the moment. They are some of the first from the new and improved recruitment regime, of which I am one of the assessors. Having been part of the old recruitment system, the new system is a qantum leap better. So far the reports from the ATC instructors are that we are indeed getting better trainees, or more accurately, the trainees we pick are of the required ATC standard.
Well Plaz, hope all is going well for you in North America. If you want to come back, I can find you a spot back in Brissie no probs (actually anywhere in Oz, name your station). The surf and weather have been great, and the its Ekka Wednesday, and I have the day off.
