Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing
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7th September testing day.
Good morning all,
I am just also trying to find out wether anybody's referees has been contacted, that did the assessment on the 7th of September. It has been 4 weeks now and I havent heard a thing, which has got me worried to say the least.
Thanks in advance
I am just also trying to find out wether anybody's referees has been contacted, that did the assessment on the 7th of September. It has been 4 weeks now and I havent heard a thing, which has got me worried to say the least.
Thanks in advance
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Got the job!
Hey ask23,
were you the guy from holland that attended the assessment day on the 7th of September. If so congratulations.
I actually gave airservices australia an email on Thursday to chase up what was going on with my application. I received a phone call yesterday saying that I got in. I had a choice between Tower or Enroute. I chose to go Enroute, because they actually have a course starting in Brisbane in April 2012.
I am super excited. Do you know of anyone else who made it through that went on the same day as we did.
Cheers
were you the guy from holland that attended the assessment day on the 7th of September. If so congratulations.
I actually gave airservices australia an email on Thursday to chase up what was going on with my application. I received a phone call yesterday saying that I got in. I had a choice between Tower or Enroute. I chose to go Enroute, because they actually have a course starting in Brisbane in April 2012.
I am super excited. Do you know of anyone else who made it through that went on the same day as we did.
Cheers
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Got the job!
Yes, I'm that Dutch guy.
I called them to ask about the progress. And I choose to do the next available Tower course, starting on the 27th of February in Melbourne. I could have started earlier, on a en-route course in Melbourne on the 31st of January but I think Tower is more my thing.
I am super excited too and of course: Congratulations to you!
I haven't heard from the other candidates on that day.
Cheers
When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. ~Leonardo Da Vinci
I called them to ask about the progress. And I choose to do the next available Tower course, starting on the 27th of February in Melbourne. I could have started earlier, on a en-route course in Melbourne on the 31st of January but I think Tower is more my thing.
I am super excited too and of course: Congratulations to you!
I haven't heard from the other candidates on that day.
Cheers
When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. ~Leonardo Da Vinci
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Ring them back......
[QUOTE=WichWayIsUp;6739007]Hey ask23,
I had a choice between Tower or Enroute. I chose to go Enroute, because they actually have a course starting in Brisbane in April 2012.
You chose Enroute??? That should be part of the psych testing. And you my friend, have failed.
p.s Good luck with the course.
I had a choice between Tower or Enroute. I chose to go Enroute, because they actually have a course starting in Brisbane in April 2012.
You chose Enroute??? That should be part of the psych testing. And you my friend, have failed.
p.s Good luck with the course.
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Congrats to all and to Ask123: gefeliciteerd! Houd de Nederlandse eer hoog!
I received feedback and that was very disappointing to say the least. She started with explaining that the outcome was not based on one test, but on the whole collection.
Then.....why is it that I am not through???? I passed all tests with flying colors except Simulation. That's really the only one! More disappointing when it felt that that was actually one that went well (in my eyes). I was very relaxed because they told me to mostly have some fun! - which I did. Now I understand I should have taken this one more competitively, mostly timewise. I haven't 'parrotted' the instructions enough and was not fast enough in my decision making and not followed procedures enough. I am quite devastated to hear this - I write & train procedures and am a communication specialist. They clearly, to me, have failed in conveying the intent of the exercise at the start. I still remember so well how easy I thought this exercise was and how I waited for the sign to move on (it was slow). Now I'm left with: I should have parrotted and speak out loud everything thought...not be efficient and have fun.
But the biggie: I WAS unsuccessful on just the one. How s*t and unexpected.
I'm left with info I can't do anything with. I was hoping to really learn fr the feedback and be able to do something with it one way or the other. I didn't. And it really sucks to be stopped in my path on something I perceived as the easy bit....so surprised.
I really think they have made a mistake...but so be it. She asked if I was interested in other positions. I'm not. There is only one thing I want..
I received feedback and that was very disappointing to say the least. She started with explaining that the outcome was not based on one test, but on the whole collection.
Then.....why is it that I am not through???? I passed all tests with flying colors except Simulation. That's really the only one! More disappointing when it felt that that was actually one that went well (in my eyes). I was very relaxed because they told me to mostly have some fun! - which I did. Now I understand I should have taken this one more competitively, mostly timewise. I haven't 'parrotted' the instructions enough and was not fast enough in my decision making and not followed procedures enough. I am quite devastated to hear this - I write & train procedures and am a communication specialist. They clearly, to me, have failed in conveying the intent of the exercise at the start. I still remember so well how easy I thought this exercise was and how I waited for the sign to move on (it was slow). Now I'm left with: I should have parrotted and speak out loud everything thought...not be efficient and have fun.
But the biggie: I WAS unsuccessful on just the one. How s*t and unexpected.
I'm left with info I can't do anything with. I was hoping to really learn fr the feedback and be able to do something with it one way or the other. I didn't. And it really sucks to be stopped in my path on something I perceived as the easy bit....so surprised.
I really think they have made a mistake...but so be it. She asked if I was interested in other positions. I'm not. There is only one thing I want..
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ASK23.....Looks like I will be joining you in Melb in February for the Tower Course. I was also offered EnRoute or Tower and ended up going with Tower.
Mr Fancy Pants.
You chose Enroute??? That should be part of the psych testing. And you my friend, have failed.
p.s Good luck with the course
Are you a Tower controller yourself? Just wondering why you prefer Tower to Enroute. I'm new to the game so knowledge is quite limited.
Mr Fancy Pants.
You chose Enroute??? That should be part of the psych testing. And you my friend, have failed.
p.s Good luck with the course
Are you a Tower controller yourself? Just wondering why you prefer Tower to Enroute. I'm new to the game so knowledge is quite limited.
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Misinterpretation
@Television. Good luck with your course. You have misinterpreted my post. (which might be my responsibility). My disappointment lies very much in the fact that they ensure you it's an overall assessment on multiple points, but have made a conclusion on only one. I did not 'fail' (who knows where I missed or received points?), and to me it seems I was unclear of the test procedure of that part - since it was in my experience the easiest part, which i thought i did very well. And the feedback was so surprising because neither me or someone else would recognise my skills and abilities in it. So, I clearly must have missed something there (either as a result of their explanation, or my interpretation).
So, be warned, it is possible to not get through based on one exercise. That's all. For me that is big - as in big disappointment. I would have rather failed miserably big time! I did not.
Btw, I don't find your remark particularly nice. I hope you communicate nicer towards your future colleagues, or anyone for that matter
So, be warned, it is possible to not get through based on one exercise. That's all. For me that is big - as in big disappointment. I would have rather failed miserably big time! I did not.
Btw, I don't find your remark particularly nice. I hope you communicate nicer towards your future colleagues, or anyone for that matter
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Hey peoples, did the online test the other week and had my telephone interview today, which I was told at the time I passed. They have said that the next stage of testing is happening in October, November or December, I told them that I had a preference for October.
What happens from there?
Also, another couple of questions, how long is the Academy Training and Field Training?
What happens from there?
Also, another couple of questions, how long is the Academy Training and Field Training?
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Hey peoples, did the online test the other week and had my telephone interview today, which I was told at the time I passed. They have said that the next stage of testing is happening in October, November or December, I told them that I had a preference for October.
What happens from there?
What happens from there?
Training at the Academy should be about 12-14 months, and field training should be about 4-6 months. This is for the enroute guys; the tower guys finish slightly faster.
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Originally Posted by jetdownunder
Then.....why is it that I am not through???? I passed all tests with flying colors except Simulation. That's really the only one! More disappointing when it felt that that was actually one that went well (in my eyes). I was very relaxed because they told me to mostly have some fun! - which I did. Now I understand I should have taken this one more competitively, mostly timewise. I haven't 'parrotted' the instructions enough and was not fast enough in my decision making and not followed procedures enough. I am quite devastated to hear this - I write & train procedures and am a communication specialist. They clearly, to me, have failed in conveying the intent of the exercise at the start. I still remember so well how easy I thought this exercise was and how I waited for the sign to move on (it was slow). Now I'm left with: I should have parrotted and speak out loud everything thought...not be efficient and have fun.
But the biggie: I WAS unsuccessful on just the one. How s*t and unexpected.
But the biggie: I WAS unsuccessful on just the one. How s*t and unexpected.
Feedback left me more confused.
More disappointed i had to go to bloody Sydney for the test, when they booked one a month later in my home town of Melbourne!! Cost me a few hundred dollars.
I was willing to drop pay to do this but that's the way it goes.
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@Troy
Thanks. It helps a little knowing someone knows what I mean. I am a very positive woman and I know life must have better plans for me (which are already evolving), but every plane that flies over my house is still stinging a bit...
I don't think there is anything in my life that I was so determined to get (except residency maybe). And despite all the odds against me my motivation, will power and skills have always gotten me through. I find that the toughest to deal with. But, as said, I will approach life with renewed energy because this must be good for something.
And I'm sure...so it is for you.
Maybe we would have gotten bored after years behind the radar, who knows, haha :-)
Good luck to you with whatever it is!
Thanks. It helps a little knowing someone knows what I mean. I am a very positive woman and I know life must have better plans for me (which are already evolving), but every plane that flies over my house is still stinging a bit...
I don't think there is anything in my life that I was so determined to get (except residency maybe). And despite all the odds against me my motivation, will power and skills have always gotten me through. I find that the toughest to deal with. But, as said, I will approach life with renewed energy because this must be good for something.
And I'm sure...so it is for you.
Maybe we would have gotten bored after years behind the radar, who knows, haha :-)
Good luck to you with whatever it is!
"ASK23.....Looks like I will be joining you in Melb in February for the Tower Course. I was also offered EnRoute or Tower and ended up going with Tower.
Mr Fancy Pants.
You chose Enroute??? That should be part of the psych testing. And you my friend, have failed.
p.s Good luck with the course
Are you a Tower controller yourself? Just wondering why you prefer Tower to Enroute. I'm new to the game so knowledge is quite limited"
re this:
It seems that most people who are given the choice choose Tower without thinking. A few in my course did the same, and some were offered spots in previous Enroute courses and chose to hold off for 3 months until there was a Tower spot available. Alot of my course admit to the fact that they would of chosen Tower if given the chance, but now that they know more about both streams they would definitely pick Enroute.
When most people think of ATC they automatically think of Tower controllers, so I think that's why it's usually the first pick. Nothing wrong with that either. On the plus side the Tower course is 2-3 months shorter than the Enroute course (how hard is it to learn 1 separation standard :P), so you're in the field sooner, you get a nice view from your office, you get to play with binoculars etc. On the downside though is the chance that you can basically close your eyes and point at any spot on a map of Aus and that's where you could be relocating to. I also believe the Tower course has a much higher pass rate (not due to the quality of the students!) than the Enroute course...
As far as positives for Enroute is that you will be living in Brisbane at the worst, and Melbourne at the best. From what I've seen a bit more variety in your workload, and a bigger team around you. Obvious downside is a longer, and more challenging course... but if you're up to it it's rewarding.
Mr Fancy Pants.
You chose Enroute??? That should be part of the psych testing. And you my friend, have failed.
p.s Good luck with the course
Are you a Tower controller yourself? Just wondering why you prefer Tower to Enroute. I'm new to the game so knowledge is quite limited"
re this:
It seems that most people who are given the choice choose Tower without thinking. A few in my course did the same, and some were offered spots in previous Enroute courses and chose to hold off for 3 months until there was a Tower spot available. Alot of my course admit to the fact that they would of chosen Tower if given the chance, but now that they know more about both streams they would definitely pick Enroute.
When most people think of ATC they automatically think of Tower controllers, so I think that's why it's usually the first pick. Nothing wrong with that either. On the plus side the Tower course is 2-3 months shorter than the Enroute course (how hard is it to learn 1 separation standard :P), so you're in the field sooner, you get a nice view from your office, you get to play with binoculars etc. On the downside though is the chance that you can basically close your eyes and point at any spot on a map of Aus and that's where you could be relocating to. I also believe the Tower course has a much higher pass rate (not due to the quality of the students!) than the Enroute course...
As far as positives for Enroute is that you will be living in Brisbane at the worst, and Melbourne at the best. From what I've seen a bit more variety in your workload, and a bigger team around you. Obvious downside is a longer, and more challenging course... but if you're up to it it's rewarding.
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On the plus side the Tower course is 2-3 months shorter than the Enroute course (how hard is it to learn 1 separation standard :P), so you're in the field sooner, you get a nice view from your office, you get to play with binoculars etc. On the downside though is the chance that you can basically close your eyes and point at any spot on a map of Aus and that's where you could be relocating to.
Note: you won't actually know where you'll be posted until a few weeks out from finishing