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Old 2nd Sep 2011, 06:36
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Going by some of the older comments in this thread, they must have really streamlined their recruiting. I had my phone interview around 3pm yesterday and got an email this morning to say I'm through to the next round. My assessment is on the 21st. Looking forward to seeing some of you there. It would be nice if they do run a course in Brisbane, since it's only about a 15 minute drive for me.
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Old 3rd Sep 2011, 05:11
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Hey Stevep, no offence, but are you 46 like your profile thingy says?
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 02:48
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Yeah, sounds like they might have sped things up a little bit. I wouldn't count on getting a spot in Brisbane :P When I was starting, they were putting together the first Brisbane course, and after hearing about it, I let them know I was obviously keen to stay in Brisbane, only to be told the course was already full. I asked how they selected people for it, and the answer was "At random". And apparently, the second Brisbane course has mostly Melbourne people on it, despite still sending Brisbane people to Melbourne!
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 06:01
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Mrfancypants, none taken, and yes I'm 46. Hopefully that won't go against me, although I've got this far with them knowing my age, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm not holding my breath as far as training in Brisbane is concerned, or even a posting here for that matter. It would be nice though, since I applied not knowing there was even a possibility of courses up here.
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 06:54
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Posting is a different matter (assuming you're going for enroute). I was told before I started I would be going back to Brisbane, so that's good at least As for age, it doesn't seem to matter, someone who started on the most recent course is in their mid 40s
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 07:27
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stevep64: Congrats on getting this far, I hope you make it. I was worried I might be the oldest person on the course. It's good they give us the opportunity to try - in the UK I think you have to be under 30?
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 09:15
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I wouldn't worry too much about being the oldest there Ergaster2, I'm used to hanging out with 20 somethings at uni residentials, and I'm not always the oldest there either. There are advantages to being the old fart too.
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 10:10
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You won't be discriminated against but being older does make it harder - you'll have to work harder to make stuff stick than if you were 21. I think most of us will say we aren't as sharp as we were 25 years ago but that doesn't say you can't meet the standard.

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Old 4th Sep 2011, 10:18
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stevep64: is that at UNE by any chance?
lePengouin: if by "most of us" you mean most of people on here, I think most of us (not me) are under 30, so I'd hope they wouldn't agree that they're not as sharp as 25 years ago :-)
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 11:16
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Airservices has a history of ALLEGED discrimination... Do a pprune search for 'airservices discrimination' and you'll find the old thread about it. Also seen in the TV news and papers. More related to alleged sex discrimination rather than age though.
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 07:28
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A couple of things.

Age is irrelevant, if you are good enough to get through the assessment day, you will be offered a course. Simple as that. The assessors are not given any personal details about anyone, until after the end of the day, and only if we ask for it. The whole idea of these assessment centres is exactly that to assess, not to judge.

I wont even enter into the discrimination case; well below the line.

Remember, the Learning Academy is in Melbourne. That is where training is conducted. There have been two courses run in Brisbane recently, as a trial. They have both been successful so far, but there is simply not enough real estate in Brisbane Centre to run any more courses. The current courses will have to finish which is not til next year before any more are run there, and even then there is no guarantee. So, if you want a course, prepare for a trip to Melbourne. A Brisbane course is a long shot.
Having said that, who doesn't love a winters day in Melbourne? Especially in December!

Cheers
Boonie.

P.S. Look forward to meeting all the candidates in Brisbane this week.
Good Luck!
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 08:24
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I attended the assessment day on Tuesday the 23 August. (2 weeks ago) Im nervously waiting for a response from the Airservices recruitment team. Anybody in a similar position? Im not sure that my referee'shave been contacted and was told that they could be contacted anywhere from a week after the course onwards. Im really looking forward to hear if i have been offered a position! That way at least one way or another I can start to make some arrangements!

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Old 5th Sep 2011, 23:06
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Nathan1986:

I'm in the same position as you (not assessed on the same day, but in the same week).

I don't think my referees have been contacted either. I wanted to change my referees, as I originally put down the boss from my previous job whom I haven't seen for about four years, so I emailed them to change it (as we were told to do) but never got a confirmation reply.

Anyway, I got the impression that our referees will only be contacted either for a fairly simple verification that we didn't completely make up all the stuff in our resume (e.g. "does Nathan really work for you as a lion tamer?") *or* if there was something in the assessment day which caused them concern but they were otherwise interested in taking us (e.g. "can you tell me about how Nathan is at working together in a team?"). So I guess not having our referees contacted yet can be either good or bad news.

Or no news. I would imagine that they would have waited until they interviewed everyone last week, analysed us late last week, and be ringing our referees this week with a view to giving us an offer late next week.

I think even if we got an offer we couldn't start till next year anyway (which would be great by me). So I guess it's just wait and see, just like the last six months.

Good luck with it.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 12:35
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There have been two courses run in Brisbane recently, as a trial. They have both been successful so far,
Boonie, curious as to why you have deemed these courses successful already?
Aren't they still a work in progress or have the trainees off these courses already been released to the field?
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 20:33
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5miles,
Empahasis on "so far"
We get a report on the progress of the trainees regularly, and all that have been selected in this process are all doing very well.
There is still a way to go, with the first groups starting in the field early next year.
I was not only commenting on the progress of the trainees, but also the way they have been accommodated and assimilated into the centre.

But, so far, the signs are very encouraging!!

Cheers
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Old 9th Sep 2011, 03:08
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Hi All,
This is for anyone in the know.
Airservices advertised for ATC DELIVERY
SPECIALISTS a couple of weeks ago for positions in Brisbane and Melbourne
My question is: Is Airservices looking to
ramp up courses run out of Brisbane?
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 17:23
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Awaiting phone interview conformation.

I received a email conformation that my online assessment was successful on the 17th August,

The next stage of the recruitment process will be a telephone interview. You will be invited to select a time and date for this in the near future via email and so please do wait to be contacted by us. Please check your emails on a regular basis for our communications.

We arrange telephone interviews based on your location and when we are holding assessment centres in that location next.
Im still waiting for an email regarding phone interview times. How long should I wait (Im located at Melbourne)?

Has any one received a follow up email? and if you have please let me know where your located

Thanks,
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 23:38
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Spider,
I got my confirmation email the same day as you, then got the email to book my phone interview on the 25th. Have you tried logging on to your application and see if there's anything there?

I'm in Brisbane.
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 23:53
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Anyone else starting the course on November 21st in Melbourne? I'm on the tower course but it would be awesome to meet up with anyone starting either tower or en route course before then. I can't wait to start, if anyone in Melbourne is on the same course let me know!
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 11:30
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Yaasb bucket.

Hey Yaasb,

If only it was the good old days of Sectors in SY. Remember the general ratings and the fact that nobody wanted to train us.

Caio

Don't go rolling any more Corollas.
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