Originally Posted by jethro15
(Post 11603508)
With regard to Jonathan Hinkles departure, what have we got so far? To summarise:
Post 384: ‘A loss for the company. You will never work for a more professional CEO in this industry’. Post 390: ‘For those that know, was the recent ‘Social Media’ production and subsequent email from JH to all staff the straw that broke the camel’s back? Post: 392: ‘Paid off but old and maintained in house?’ Post 393: ‘I suspect JH has a very good idea of what’s ahead. Post:395: ‘Which is probably why JH has left as he can foresee a very difficult future. For the 6 years I worked for them from 2014-20, he certainly did an excellent job, especially from the useless one before him. I do feel the board have a very critical decision who replaces him. I fear that things will only go downhill from here’. (A sentiment I strongly agree with!) Post 460: (My own, no need to repeat) Post 475: ‘A couple of colleagues had been in touch with him and he is indeed taking a break. That doesn't stop the speculation about what he's going to do next though. It will certainly be something!’ From: Chief executive tells why he quit Glasgow airline Loganair | The Herald (heraldscotland.com) "It serves no-one well for there to be a prolonged period of farewells, uncertainty and indecision in leadership. With all that in mind, I left the building for the final time a few hours ago." Many airlines worldwide have/are experiencing problems with the AT72 fleet. Loganair are NO exception. It appears that once proposed acquisition timelines can no longer be adhered to through no fault of their own. Plus, as ‘Diff Tail Shim’ pointed out in Post 470, spares are also VERY difficult to come by. (Eastern have also succumbed) One thing that also struck me was the attention paid to the farewell flights to the SAAB 340 flights. Many videos online are from pure enthusiasts and posted online via social media. However, when you look at the background of many of the ground shots taken, the proliferation of Loganair advertising did not pass me by. Who needs tv? Who was responsible for that? My fear for Loganair is that the shareholders have taken the decision to willingly replace a competent CEO with someone they can manipulate to dispose of Loganair. PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG! |
Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
(Post 11603586)
Not to mention their crewing problem. They are haemorrhaging crew to a wide variety of companies. Not necessarily all due to the company but certainly the morale seems very low. The crewing issue will hamper the company plans going forward which is one of the reasons why we’re seeing routes cut. Difficult times ahead for sure!
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
(Post 11603323)
Maybe for business travellers yes but for leisure they are ridiculously expensive. SOU-GLA return in May with EZY is £88 versus LM’s £236!
Did you add hold baggage to your EZY fare to take into account the 15kg that you automatically get with LM (even on their lowest fare...!), and did you add any extra on-top for refreshments too, which is something else that you get included - even if it's just a cup of tea & a Tunnocks Caramel wafer bar...?! |
Originally Posted by jmdavies86
(Post 11604166)
Are you comparing like-for-like price-wise though...?!
Did you add hold baggage to your EZY fare to take into account the 15kg that you automatically get with LM (even on their lowest fare...!), and did you add any extra on-top for refreshments too, which is something else that you get included - even if it's just a cup of tea & a Tunnocks Caramel wafer bar...?! |
Originally Posted by jmdavies86
(Post 11604166)
Are you comparing like-for-like price-wise though...?!
Did you add hold baggage to your EZY fare to take into account the 15kg that you automatically get with LM (even on their lowest fare...!), and did you add any extra on-top for refreshments too, which is something else that you get included - even if it's just a cup of tea & a Tunnocks Caramel wafer bar...?! |
Originally Posted by SKOJB
(Post 11604201)
not everyone flying to GLA wants hold luggage included so the easyJet fare was for a small onboard bag only. Food and drink shouldn't bother most travellers on an hour flight
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Originally Posted by Markushillman
(Post 11604177)
Well easily £114 with easyjet, with 23kg hold bag and seats round trip. Not sure the carmel wafer and tea are quite worth the extra £150 or so
Not just ANY caramel wafer, that's a Scottish Tunnocks Caramel Wafer! Did you know we consume 5m per day? (well, not me personally) |
I should hope not or we would have to change POSTS 168 to WEIGHT 168 kg.
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Does LM base ATR72-600 at Glasgow if so how many and on what route or routes do they operate on, thanks.
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Originally Posted by fjencl
(Post 11605624)
Does LM base ATR72-600 at Glasgow if so how many and on what route or routes do they operate on, thanks.
I think it's a single ATR based, with 2 Twin Otters and 2 E145's |
Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels
(Post 11605714)
Yeah the do, mainly operating Islay, Benbecula, Sumburgh, Kirkwall and Donegal.
I think it's a single ATR based, with 2 Twin Otters and 2 E145's |
Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels
(Post 11605714)
Yeah the do, mainly operating Islay, Benbecula, Sumburgh, Kirkwall and Donegal.
I think it's a single ATR based, with 2 Twin Otters and 2 E145's |
Originally Posted by Hial Flyer
(Post 11605745)
Its an ATR42-600 that is based at Glasgow, not an ATR72. The aircraft swaps each day in Kirkwall.
based elsewhere around the network but none at Glasgow then. |
Originally Posted by Hial Flyer
(Post 11605745)
Its an ATR42-600 that is based at Glasgow, not an ATR72. The aircraft swaps each day in Kirkwall.
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Originally Posted by V12
(Post 11604554)
Not just ANY caramel wafer, that's a Scottish Tunnocks Caramel Wafer!
Did you know we consume 5m per day? (well, not me personally) |
Credit to @SeanM1997 as always
Loganairs pso route Benbeclua - Stornoway not for sale for s24, PSO tender is awaiting the results. But suggests that these airports could *potentially* see a new airline |
Originally Posted by Markushillman
(Post 11606685)
Credit to @SeanM1997 as always
Loganairs pso route Benbeclua - Stornoway not for sale for s24, PSO tender is awaiting the results. But suggests that these airports could *potentially* see a new airline What type of aircraft currently operates this service |
Originally Posted by fjencl
(Post 11606779)
What type of aircraft currently operates this service
Tbh can't really see who else will operate it other than Loganair. Will be interested to see what others were on the tender |
Originally Posted by Markushillman
(Post 11606821)
ATR42 on Thursday.
Tbh can't really see who else will operate it other than Loganair. Will be interested to see what others were on the tender |
Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
(Post 11606825)
Whom else operates anything remotely similar? Only Tricky Dickies lot. J41 from ABZ?
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Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
(Post 11606825)
Whom else operates anything remotely similar? Only Tricky Dickies lot. J41 from ABZ?
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Originally Posted by Fletch
(Post 11606848)
Could it be Ecojet out of Edinburgh?🤷♂️
What's the idea of a PSO that operates once a week? |
CAA stats
Looking at CAA data I see that Loganair is doing better now than pre-pandemic in terms of passenger numbers but with only a moderate increase in flights compared to 2019:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c802f2375c.png perhaps linked to the change in aircraft type: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7c277c5870.png |
Originally Posted by Markushillman
(Post 11606821)
Tbh can't really see who else will operate it other than Loganair. Will be interested to see what others were on the tender Anybody know how it works ???? |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11606862)
You would need to be able to prove you can fulfill the contract i.e. be an airline with an AOC, which isn't happening for Summer 24.
What's the idea of a PSO that operates once a week? |
Credit to @@SeanM1997 on X
Loganair has lost its PSO between Stornoway - Benbeclua. New operator to be Hebridean Air Services to launch April 2024 |
If I'm not mistaken, they operate the services from Oban (Connel ) airport to Colonsay Coll and Tiree. There's going to be a lot of positional flying. They're part of Airtask and at Oban use a BN2B, which may be a better size for the route
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Originally Posted by Ascupart
(Post 11606953)
Looking at CAA data I see that Loganair is doing better now than pre-pandemic in terms of passenger numbers but with only a moderate increase in flights compared to 2019:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c802f2375c.png perhaps linked to the change in aircraft type: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7c277c5870.png |
When Loganair made the following announcement .......“Inverness to Birmingham and Dublin will operate their last flights on 5th January 2024,
Did that mean a reduction of a based aircraft at Inverness, or are Loganair still operating with an ATR42 and an Embraer 145 based at Inverness these days. If so, on what routes are both types operating. |
No E145 based at INV anymore, just an ATR 42 for passenger services. I believe the based freighters will also leave early summer as well.
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
(Post 11623239)
No E145 based at INV anymore, just an ATR 42 for passenger services. I believe the based freighters will also leave early summer as well.
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Originally Posted by billyg
(Post 11623493)
I saw a post elsewhere suggesting the freighters would soon be operating from Glasgow ?
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G-SAJB
This aircraft has been sitting in ABZ beside the railway for a long time without engines and is well taped up, as an E135ER I guess it doesn't fit well in the fleet and probably not attractive in the general market. Anyone know of plans for it? |
Originally Posted by 5711N0205W
(Post 11630976)
G-SAJB
This aircraft has been sitting in ABZ beside the railway for a long time without engines and is well taped up, as an E135ER I guess it doesn't fit well in the fleet and probably not attractive in the general market. Anyone know of plans for it? |
It won't fly again - just needs final part-out to be completed to finally disappear.
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Shame, that was LM’s first Embraer.
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
(Post 11631037)
Shame, that was LM’s first Embraer.
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Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
(Post 11631087)
Embraer as a supporter of EJRs outside of Europe is better. Inside Brexit land is even worse. USA has the EJRs. So many Loganair employees voted for leave. Moan that things are Pete Tong.
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Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
(Post 11631087)
Embraer as a supporter of EJRs outside of Europe is better. Inside Brexit land is even worse. USA has the EJRs. So many Loganair employees voted for leave. Moan that things are Pete Tong.
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
(Post 11631509)
Partaking of a healthy measure of Scotland’s national drink while posting?
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