Would not say the government has come to their aid at all. There are not putting any money into the airline. Just yesterday they remortgaged a Dash to a German Bank for 5 million pounds to help their cash flow to help them get through the winter. Cannot keep selling the family silver.
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad
(Post 10317220)
Got any link? That isn't showing up anywhere. I really doubt it if I'm honest..
"An agreement has been reached between Flybe , Heathrow and the government" |
A statement from the Government on the announcement.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...l-and-heathrow |
It is a PSO route so in that respect of course it is supported by the Government, The Government can barely support itself at the moment and I suspect this is ministerial speak to gain a few brownie points.
I admire your optimism Brigantee! |
Originally Posted by TangoAlphad
(Post 10317238)
Given the wording of the poster I was querying, I’d assumed it was another piece of news with regards to the Govt bailing out Flybe, not just about agreeing to a regional route. So, as far as I can see the government is hardly coming to the aid of Flybe as implied would happen by a few posters. |
Originally Posted by Brigantee
(Post 10317212)
I did predict that the goverment would come to flybe,s aid and was scoffed at by certain individuals.....
Crisis now over i reckon |
Some decent utilisation rates on that Newquay Heathrow service, good news and goood effort by Flybe on this one |
[QUOTE=Andy_S;10317284]And another one preserved for future reference.........[/QUOTE Feel free to preserve all you like and when it’s obvious shortly that flybe do have a secure future you can remind yourself how right i was all along😎 |
Originally Posted by Brigantee
(Post 10317439)
Feel free to preserve all you like and when it’s obvious shortly that flybe do have a secure future you can remind yourself how right i was all along |
Being projected that each passenger round trip NQY/LHR/NQY will cost the UK taxpayer £10.
SEN are still hoping for their own service from NQY,if it now happens why is it expected to be self supporting & cash generating when ops into one of the World`s premier airports evidently is not. Many regional airports around the UK are looking askance at this BEE/LHR/CG cobble up after their own services have been withdrawn or reduced. BEE & CG & to a lessor extent LHR are all at sea... |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10317450)
Being projected that each passenger round trip NQY/LHR/NQY will cost the UK taxpayer £10.
SEN are still hoping for their own service from NQY,if it now happens why is it expected to be self supporting & cash generating when ops into one of the World`s premier airports evidently is not. Many regional airports around the UK are looking askance at this BEE/LHR/CG cobble up after their own services have been withdrawn or reduced. BEE & CG & to a lessor extent LHR are all at sea... |
How would moving 1 route save them? Surely this is just peanuts in terms the whole operation?
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Whatever happened to poetic license?...Yes I do actually comprehend all the fundamentals involved but use license to draw attention to the two main parties involved both BEE & CG who do not inspire confidence & who both have clarity of vision deficit.
Tory seats in the West Country anyone with possible elections threatening. |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10317450)
Being projected that each passenger round trip NQY/LHR/NQY will cost the UK taxpayer £10.
SEN are still hoping for their own service from NQY,if it now happens why is it expected to be self supporting & cash generating when ops into one of the World`s premier airports evidently is not. Many regional airports around the UK are looking askance at this BEE/LHR/CG cobble up after their own services have been withdrawn or reduced. BEE & CG & to a lessor extent LHR are all at sea... |
Slight difference is that INV has 4 trains a day and they are more than likely to go tech due to landslides etc.
Anyone think any airline is going to touch the with TUPE etc then they are sadly mistaken. Government sub not going to happen either due to being highly illegal. Honestly flybe's management are utter heads up their own arse by buying the setup and AoC your taking on all the redundancy payments and more importantly all the baggage and useless management. Operating crew and gingers no an issue with the rest of the dead wood nobody will touch. |
So what we have with the transfer of the route to Heathrow is: * The existing PSO subsidy was about to run out and has been renewed. That's the government involvement explained. * Heathrow offers £15 / pax discount on handling charges for new UK routes. That's Heathrow's involvement explained. * Flybe was able to obtain remedy slots at LHR from the IAG/bmi takeover. That's the airline's involvement explained. I really can't see anything more substantive for the airline than this - other than that it might be able to sell its existing slots at LGW. |
Originally Posted by tescoapp
(Post 10317561)
Slight difference is that INV has 4 trains a day and they are more than likely to go tech due to landslides etc.
Anyone think any airline is going to touch the with TUPE etc then they are sadly mistaken. Government sub not going to happen either due to being highly illegal. Honestly flybe's management are utter heads up their own arse by buying the setup and AoC your taking on all the redundancy payments and more importantly all the baggage and useless management. Operating crew and gingers no an issue with the rest of the dead wood nobody will touch. |
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Sky News are reporting Virgin Atlantic are in talks to buy Flybe. |
i was born north of Dundee and connections to London other than Air are utterly pants. Sleeper is a nice option though which i do pay the extra for on occasion.
Virgin trains I might understand an interest in the operation.... but then again they have similar issues as flybe…. Atlantic more than likely operates with a couple of ops controllers one tech guy 24H to take on the flybe fleet would blow the ops model out the water. Can't see it myself... |
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