Originally Posted by airsouthwest
(Post 10750805)
What also drove me mad is why nobody thought to find a way to properly utilise the E195's, given they have enough distance to fly to Spain, Malta, Finland etc surely Flybe could have found a niche route(s) that made flying them profitable or at least break even, rather than flying them on Newquay to Gatwick where they hardly made any cash.
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I believe Saad left of his own accord That said, he did manage to raise significant capital to keep the business going, and also got Flybe out of the remaining E175 order. I think he was more of a short-term turnaround specialist rather than a long term leader. |
Originally Posted by V12
(Post 10750824)
COW was dire but ultimate responsibility must surely lie with the Chairman who interviewed, chose, and appointed her. I have reason to believe that capable candidates weren't even invited for interview.
It is often forgotten that BE had pretty much no competition on most of their routes, and for all the bashing the q400 gets, it is probably the most economical regional plane out there. The only way this ends in bankruptcy is catastrophic bad management. |
Originally Posted by JobsaGoodun
(Post 10751114)
When Saad left, it was with immediate effect with Flybe having to continue paying him his huge salary for at least 12mths after his departure. I certainly don’t think that he left by choice.
That said, he did manage to raise significant capital to keep the business going, and also got Flybe out of the remaining E175 order. I think he was more of a short-term turnaround specialist rather than a long term leader. |
Or alternatively ..gardening leave is what you dish out when during said CEO’s tenure, the business records profits of £10m but losses of £55m, (later restated to upwards of £80m.)
Saad made some major accomplishments, but having been with the business throughout his time, the culture was not good. Sadly, although this subsequently improved, it still didn’t generate any improvement to the bottom line. |
Another clueless plan by the COO. £1k day off payments and a bonus scheme if you stayed working for flybe. Yes, normally could work but working for a regional, you generally have your personal life built around the area. So he gave money to people who probably not interested in leaving anyway. P*ssed away money the company didn't have. As an idea, they should have tried a revolutionary idea called leadership and management. And these village idiots were running the company.
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I think most of us would agree that from the point of the IPO, successive leadership and management teams made a number of decisions that adversely impacted on the ability for the business to survive. Following the acquisition by Connect, Flybe was making some significant improvements and in my opinion, had the best leadership team in over a decade but sadly, insufficient funding to effect a full turnaround of the business.
Having said that, even if Flybe had obtained the much discussed £100m Govt loan - I think it would have likely succumbed to Covid-19 anyway. |
Jobs
Yes, admittedly I don’t know about the last CEO but people did seem to like him.
Just thought about another corker. Not sure how much it cost but lighting up the BHX control tower. Great use of funds for a pointless exercise.And whilst your losing millions, spend hundreds of thousands on new uniform. I can only imagine strategy meetings looked like chimpanzees round a table throwing their own excrement at each other and calling it a plan. |
With the demise of Flybe Engineering Aviation Services, who will look after the Dash 8 fleet whilst awaiting new operators? Surely the administrators won't continue paying the skeleton staff from FEAS for the amount of time which will be required?
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Originally Posted by Clarke Griswald
(Post 10752429)
With the demise of Flybe Engineering Aviation Services, who will look after the Dash 8 fleet whilst awaiting new operators? Surely the administrators won't continue paying the skeleton staff from FEAS for the amount of time which will be required?
But I doubt the leasing companies are in a rush to do anything. I’m not exactly sure there’s a queue of people looking for Dash8s at the moment... |
I wonder if there wasn't much more important things going on at the moment the press would be interested on how poorly managed flybe was. old news now i guess as the airline is gone forever.
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Originally Posted by jamestkirk
(Post 10753612)
I wonder if there wasn't much more important things going on at the moment the press would be interested on how poorly managed flybe was. old news now i guess as the airline is gone forever.
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Safety concerns
I saw this yesterday. This is a report from the CAA date 16/04/20 regarding operating and route licence.
What was going on at flybe?? 27. CMG also relied on the provisional suspension of the AOC to submit that the CAA was obliged pursuant to Article 9(5) of the EU Regulation also immediately to take steps to suspend or revoke the OLs and RLs. It stated that one of the purposes of the EU Regulation was to ensure that the financial health of an airline did not adversely affect safety. Since SARG had identified serious breaches of safety regulations which led it to make a provisional suspension of the AOC, it followed that the OL and RLs should also be suspended or revoked. There was no prospect of Flybe remedying the safety concerns which had been identified since it lacked the manpower, cash and necessary resources to do so. |
Seems serious but also a little vague. It would be interesting if anyone did have genuine intel on this rather than rumours.
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Is the report quoyed on line?
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27. CMG also relied on the provisional suspension of the AOC to submit that the CAA was obliged pursuant to Article 9(5) of the EU Regulation also immediately to take steps to suspend or revoke the OLs and RLs. It stated that one of the purposes of the EU Regulation was to ensure that the financial health of an airline did not adversely affect safety. Since SARG had identified serious breaches of safety regulations which led it to make a provisional suspension of the AOC, it followed that the OL and RLs should also be suspended or revoked. There was no prospect of Flybe remedying the safety concerns which had been identified since it lacked the manpower, cash and necessary resources to do so. |
whole doc. to CAA website. type in flybe and it will come under doc 1/2020 on revocation of operator and route licence.
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Or it could be that the suspension of the AOC is what finally pushed it over the edge
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
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