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Alteagod 21st Jul 2019 09:53

Virgin European. Virgin UK. Virgin Domestic wont work...two letter code VD on a Virgin

sixchannel 21st Jul 2019 09:57

Madonna Airlines?
 
Why not re-name it "Madonna"? well it'll be "like a Virgin".
Sorry - its a Sunday.

Blackfriar 21st Jul 2019 11:37

What does the bearded grinnng git's image bring to the party? Surely the brand is now almost worthless after repeated failure. The train company became "the delayed Virgin train" so frequent was that announcement. All the Virgin businesses are now just a smear of red and zero involvement from Dickie. It woud be interesting before anyone else pays Branson to use the name to carry out some reseach as to what the public impression of the brand is now.

Rivet Joint 21st Jul 2019 13:00


Originally Posted by Blackfriar (Post 10524163)
What does the bearded grinnng git's image bring to the party? Surely the brand is now almost worthless after repeated failure. The train company became "the delayed Virgin train" so frequent was that announcement. All the Virgin businesses are now just a smear of red and zero involvement from Dickie. It woud be interesting before anyone else pays Branson to use the name to carry out some reseach as to what the public impression of the brand is now.

You mean Flymaybe? It will be Virgin Connect. The clue is pretty much in the name of the holding company formed to purchase it.

SWBKCB 21st Jul 2019 13:06

Anybody else bored by this juvenility? :rolleyes:

Reversethrustset 21st Jul 2019 15:08

Very much so, SWBKCB. I don't think loose rivets is aware of how pathetic he sounds every time he uses the phrase "flymaybe", he may grow up one day but don't hold your breath.

SWBKCB 21st Jul 2019 15:20

To be honest, I wasn't just referring to that. Though I think RJ is right in that the name "Connect Airways" was chosen for a reason.

Reversethrustset 21st Jul 2019 15:46

I was agreeing with you, then I mentioned rivets. I do agree that he's probably spot on with the name, however, who really gives a toss? The name will be the name. This surely is a discussion for spotters corner.

Packer27L 21st Jul 2019 15:53


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10524222)
Anybody else bored by this juvenility? :rolleyes:

Yep. Any remnants of a grown up conversation have been lost. School holidays must have started.

Rivet Joint 21st Jul 2019 17:32


Originally Posted by Reversethrustset (Post 10524301)
Very much so, SWBKCB. I don't think loose rivets is aware of how pathetic he sounds every time he uses the phrase "flymaybe", he may grow up one day but don't hold your breath.

Come on guys, take your rose tinted glasses off for a moment. I posted in reply to Blackfriar’s point about whether BE’s brand was less tainted than Virgin’s from a reliability perspective. In my humble opinion it is not, and I am sure I am not the only one with that view. That is not to say that BE is not a well know brand though, and it will certainly be the end of an era if it does disappear. Fingers crossed Connect continue BE’s tradition of serving the regions, rather than scaling it back to just act as a feeder for Virgin’s long haul.

brian_dromey 22nd Jul 2019 13:18

The name is clearly difficult as Virgin Atlantic don't own their name or brand, so VS can't just slap "connect", or whatever onto the Virgin name. Its complicated because they need permission from the Virgin Group, to agree a licensing fee and there is at the added complication of Stobart and Cyrus, who may not feel that "Virgin Something" is the right move for the business - especially if Virgin want a steep royalty fee. The use of the Virgin brand is not without complication. The former Virgin Blue had branding problems when they launched international operations from Australia, firstly they used the "Pacific Blue", "Polynesian Blue" and "V Australia" brands before rebranding the entire operation as "Virgin Australia". Im sure something will be worked out, but it might not be swift.

fjencl 23rd Jul 2019 15:21

Is it just Dash8 aircraft that are based at Edinburgh these days, or do they have jets based there as well.

PDXCWL45 23rd Jul 2019 16:47


Originally Posted by fjencl (Post 10526119)
Is it just Dash8 aircraft that are based at Edinburgh these days, or do they have jets based there as well.

Just the Dash 8

stewyb 23rd Jul 2019 19:52


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10526208)
Just the Dash 8

I believe the only jets left (E75's) will be solely based at BHX/MAN

PDXCWL45 23rd Jul 2019 20:12


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 10526367)
I believe the only jets left (E75's) will be solely based at BHX/MAN

Yes that's what I've heard. Some say 7 will be left others say 9.

MDS 23rd Jul 2019 20:31

Random anecdote but it appears that the customer service team which handle EU261 complaints are liars.


We are aware that on the last flight of the previous evenings schedule, the aircraft that operated your flight, was struck by an airbridge at Paris CDG, causing the aircraft to be taken out of service for extensive maintenance. We can see that the aircraft on the morning of the 8th, had to be flown back to Doncaster Sheffield, to operate the day's schedule, albeit it with a delay to the first flight operating on the morning schedule. This was due to Air Traffic Controlling restrictions on being given the permission to fly the aircraft out of Paris CDG, and only utilising the slots given to fly the aircraft back to Doncaster. We can also say that due to Doncaster Sheffield not being an airport that is a Flybe operating base, the option of an aircraft change was not feasible, and that flights on the day's schedule would experience reactionary delays. With the above circumstances taken into account, this does mean we are able to defend such claims out of the control of the airline, and that operating out of an airport that is not an operating base, does cause restrictions on available alternatives. As such, we are continuing to deny this compensation claim in line with the above reasons.
Since when is DSA not an operating base? :D

I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.

ivor toolbox 23rd Jul 2019 21:18


Originally Posted by MDS (Post 10526398)
Random anecdote but it appears that the customer service team which handle EU261 complaints are liars.



Since when is DSA not an operating base? :D

I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.

Take it to (what was) small claims court

OltonPete 23rd Jul 2019 21:38

Excuses
 

Originally Posted by MDS (Post 10526398)
Random anecdote but it appears that the customer service team which handle EU261 complaints are liars.



Since when is DSA not an operating base? :D

I flew between AGP and DSA back in June and the aircraft was delayed after allegedly being struck by an airbridge in CDG the day before. They're using this as an excuse not to pay out despite the flight being scheduled over 24 hours after this incident. Frustrating to say the least.

Perhaps practice makes perfect - not.

It is the way they insult your intelligence and don't give a damn. I was on the ill-fated Florence - BHX service back in 2014 and after about 50 of the 85 pax had boarded things came to halt and the captain was busy on his mobile before announcing to those on board that the handler had misplaced the push-back bar as they only had one (really). However around an hour later the remaining pax boarded, the tug connected and we departed about 75 minutes late.

We arrived 61 minutes late but during the taxi in at BHX pax were warned that not all bags were on board.....hold on.....clue.... aircraft 175,,clue... temperatures in the mid 20's and clue....the airport was Florence which I think you can join the jots yourself to get the real reason for the delay

Bingo within a month or so the 175 was pulled from the route, the 195 appeared and operated fairly successfully but eventually the route was pulled despite great loads.

It was at the time of 60x60x60 and as it was 61 minutes late I put my claim but also disputing the reason given - I got the £60 voucher within days but no confirmation of the real reason for the delay.

Pete

Celtic_Plumber 24th Jul 2019 08:21


Originally Posted by MDS (Post 10526398)
Random anecdote but it appears that the customer service team which handle EU261 complaints are liars.

In most professional industries, blatantly lying to your customers would be frowned upon and would arouse the interest of the relevant regulator. But to avoid their EU261 obligations, some airlines appear to lie as their SOP without fear of penalty or reprisal.


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