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OltonPete 27th Sep 2013 23:38

flybe have updated their East Mids winter schedule and as I guessed the base closes for winter (if it is classed as a base), the based Q400 is not required.

Paris is reduced to daily and is operated at midday by an EDI based Q400 EDI-EMA-EDI-EMA-CDG-EMA-EDI-EMA-EDI and the Amsterdam is operated by a Glasgow based Q400 with an identical pattern to the EDI/CDG but one hour later. This means that EDI & GLA are reduced from 4 to 3 a day in the week.

Belfast is also reduced to three daily all Q400's.

Jersey changes times to 13.55 in 14.20 out and is the Jersey based aircraft which operates Southampton all day, this means a 10 sector day for that Q400 on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

Summer 14 is showing double daily Paris and all other frequencies restored at the moment.

East Mids is not alone with cuts across the board.


Burnie5204 2nd Oct 2013 14:40

I didnt manage to get photos of them together but today at EMA we were greeted by the rare (for EMA) sight of two 787s on the ground at the same time.

Both Thomsons. One on 42 and the other on the East Apron

ATNotts 2nd Oct 2013 17:31

One of the 787s tech?

stuart hammond 3rd Oct 2013 07:50

Newmarket air holidays
For 2014 EMA will have 20 destinations from this operator, with 13 this year so makes for a large increase in holidays, I make that around 100 flights all on timetabled flights with many airlines.

ematom1 3rd Oct 2013 18:48

Are all flights operated by current airlines at the airport?

Burnie5204 4th Oct 2013 00:34

Scheduled Passenger traffic wise I'm going with Yes

There is/was some flights by Aegean and Onur Air but if I recall correctly those are/were being operated as charters for airlines already based at EMA (I want to say Thomas Cook but I'm not 100%)

EDIT: Scratch that - the answer is NO. I almost forgot about Aurigny for a minute there.

ATNotts - yeah, TUIB went Tech whilst it was on the ground - the outbound crew went to do pre-flights and found something wrong with the rudder. TUIA ferried in from GLA to do the CUN sectors instead. TUIB left sometime between the end of my shift last night and the start of my shift this morning.

stuart hammond 6th Oct 2013 18:32

Newmarket flights 2014
Most flights are with FLYBE and JET2 but need to confirm NCE flights for 2014.

Drive4it 8th Oct 2013 19:45

Newmarket Flights?
Do you know of any Ryanair flight schedules due out of EMA for Summer2014.
As for Aegean, any ideas on destinations? TCX routes to GR? Would it be possible to buy flights only for Aegean from EMA?

Burnie5204 10th Oct 2013 07:54

Anybody able to shed any light on the crazy slots received this morning? In the last hour and a half I've not heard a single outbound a/c that hasnt had a slot at least 1.5 hours after scheduled departure.

Most 'Slot 1' aircraft scheduled to depart between half 6 and 7am still havent left and many dont have slots until after half 8 local time.

Does anybody kniw of any particular reason why?? All operators are affected including the Oil Spill Response Herc who is trying to go somewhere nordic sounding.

EDIT: Nevermind - just seen that the French strike that was cancelled is back on.

Teaboy24 10th Oct 2013 08:15

French ATC strike today.

Burnie5204 10th Oct 2013 08:16

Yeah I thought that was cancelled but just seen that its back on again.

Planefan2981 10th Oct 2013 08:24

Affecting slots between 30mins and 2hours...could have been a lot worse.

mikerawsonderby 12th Oct 2013 18:38

August Passengers
Wondering what to do on a miserable wet day, I thought I'd check the CAA stats. Looking at the August figures there were 598k passengers (455k scheduled, 143k chartered). This was actually the second best August ever (August 2008 - 629k total, 418k scheduled, 211k chartered).

Although there has been a big drop in charter passengers, this is the same everywhere (presumably brought on by the lo-co's), with EMA the 5th biggest UK airport for charter passengers!

Perhaps things really are looking up again after 4 poor years.


Burnie5204 12th Oct 2013 20:01


Total passenger figures are up by over 8% compared to this last year.

TSR2 12th Oct 2013 22:23

Total passenger figures are up by over 8% compared to this last year
But the Rolling Year pax number was actually down 0.4% compared with the same month last year.

Burnie5204 13th Oct 2013 05:13

Rolling 12 month figure is yes due to the WW closure, snow closures etc. (The last few months of last calendar year having been absolutely dire for Pax numbers) but the monthly (the word month having been accidentally missed between 'this' and 'last year') figure is up significantly and (if I recall correctly) so is YTD, but not by as much.

TSR2 13th Oct 2013 09:49

Yes, you are correct. If it continues, it won't be long before EMA catches Liverpool in annual pax numbers.

Mr Angry from Purley 13th Oct 2013 10:17

Lets hope they sort out the car parking first :\

FRatSTN 13th Oct 2013 10:17

it won't be long before EMA catches Liverpool in annual pax numbers.
It possibly will for the 2013 total.

With LS expanding significantly next year also and LPL so far with no expansion (EZY I believe have a complete schedule with the same if not slightly less flights than this summer due to the odd W pattern away from LPL), it is really down mainly to what FR delivers.

This year FR are about as big at EMA as LPL (summer schedule bigger at EMA, but winter bigger at LPL) so if that trend continues, 2014 could make EMA even more bigger than LPL overall. I know it's very early days for that and is still plenty of opportunities for that to change but I personally can't see any expansion at LPL as big at LS's at EMA next year.

So far all of 2014's growth for EMA is from LS, the biggest worry is BE as they have been cutting flights for the winter and to an extent FR. Obviously due to their STN deal with MAG, they have to cut some capacity at other airports. They have said it "won't effect" LPL routes but with EMA also being owned by MAG, I can't decide whether that may put EMA at an advantage or puts in in danger of FR cuts next year.

Burnie5204 14th Oct 2013 07:03

Just heard on the news that a Chinese Construction firm is investing 800m in MAG for 20% of the company primarily for the (previously estimated at) 600m Airport City at MAN.

Fingers crossed some of that money finds its way to EMA

LGS6753 14th Oct 2013 09:04

China to give Manchester Airport Group jobs boost - Telegraph

If you read the article, you will see that this is a separate business to Manchester Airport. No Chinese money for EMA!

TSR2 15th Oct 2013 18:41

I notice from the CAA Provisional Stats for September, EMA has passed Liverpool in the Rolling Year pax numbers.

BFS BHD 25th Nov 2013 03:36

Looking on FR24 and all freight movements are being done by Birmingham or Luton tonight instead of East midlands is there something wrong at east midlands?

Burnie5204 25th Nov 2013 03:51

Weekend maintenance closures.

3 Saturdays nights and 3 Sunday nights every November and March the airport closes for neccesary Runway maintenance.

The runway will be back open in time for the Monday morning departures.

BFS BHD 25th Nov 2013 11:28

Thanks for that!

Balair 27th Nov 2013 21:08

Cargo West
Whilst reading the information section for EMA in anna aero recently, I noticed the following entry:-
"EMA Cargo West is currently undergoing an extension which will add 4 widebody stands.."
I am not sure how up-to-date this section is, but I do know the airport received planning approval for this expansion back in 2011.

As my business no longer takes me through the airport, I wondered if anyone could advise me if this work has actually started/when it is planned, or if in fact it has been shelved until some future date?


Nimrod6 28th Nov 2013 07:14

In actual fact I believe the stands have already been built and have been used!! I noticed a Qatar airways aircraft parked where I believe the stands are located... So no need to assume nothing happens at our local airport!!!!!!!

Balair 28th Nov 2013 10:48


Thanks for the feed-back; I didn't know whether this work may have been delayed due to the downturn in the economy, as other apron expansion projects on Caro East appear to have been?

I now understand the stands are designated 200-203 with 200 able to accommodate aircraft up to A380-800 size, 201 B747-400 and 202/3 both C17.


Burnie5204 2nd Dec 2013 12:29

Not quite.

The new 200 series are not operational stands, and are not designated as stands. They are tail in aircraft parking/storage positions. 200 can take up to A388, 201 takes up to AN-124 and the others take up to C17 as you say. These are purely limited to unloaded, empty aircraft that are just parked up though. No operational or maintenance activities can be done on the 200s for various reasons.

The 'new' main wide-body stands capable of handling up to AN-124 are now 98, 107, 109 and 111 with one of them (off the top of my head I think it's 107) able to take the AN-225.

The west apron has been almost completely repainted you see with almost every stand moving slightly (some by as little as 1m). With the Juliet taxiline shifting significantly to the west (and being downgraded in code south of the stopbar) to accomodate the new parking fingers.

The south facing stands now run 98-114 (all the L and R stands have been removed) and also take the wide bodies.

The west facing stands now run from 120-125 with 121-125 being able to take various maximum sizes from B737 up to B752, 120 is still able to take B777s etc.

The works were completed around mid-august.

They were also preceeded by the November ramp being repainted. 42 is now the big stand capable of taking the B787-800 and, though we dont have any on pax services, B777-200. 40 was realigned on a slight angle so that the aircraft no longer point straight towards the lighting stantion as there were occasionally issues getting pushback tugs around the stantion in order to hook up for B737-800s

Burnie5204 19th Dec 2013 21:59

Interesting news on East Midlands Today a couple of days ago.

The Davies commission interim statement released a few days ago has calculated that EMA only uses 18% of its runway capacity at present, therefore rejects expansion at BHX as an option but states that EMA should be expanded and should be handling between 12-14million pax by 2050.

Good news that the Davies Commision supports EMA.

In fact 3 of MAGs 4 airports have been specifically mentioned for expansion.

johnnychips 19th Dec 2013 22:53


EMA should be expanded and should be handling between 12-14million pax by 2050.
Not having a go at you but how have they any idea what will happen? They're trying to predict what will happen in 37 years time.

Look at predictions from 1977 and see whether they've come true: I still haven't got my robot butler or flight to Mars, but I don't think anybody predicted what me and you are doing now.

And I think they said Donny airport would have 'X' M passengers by 2020. I wish! ;)

Burnie5204 20th Dec 2013 14:31

I have no idea and, like you, doubt pax figures will reach that level (though it would be excellent if it did, but would definitely need the existing terminal replacing to manage it)

However, the main point is that it is interesting/nice to see that the Davies commision specifically mentions expanding EMA and specifically mentions not expanding BHX in an effort to take pressure off London Airports.

getonittt 20th Dec 2013 18:05

However, the main point is that it is interesting/nice to see that the Davies commision specifically mentions expanding EMA and specifically mentions not expanding BHX in an effort to take pressure off London Airports.

Did he? Well he must be more clueless than I first thought he was.

chaders 23rd Dec 2013 21:28

Any info on the Monarch that burst it's tyres this afternoon?

Mr @ Spotty M 23rd Dec 2013 22:05

One tyre burst, which ends up with two wheels changed.

ematom1 3rd Jan 2014 11:45

Jet2 to re-introduce Pisa, Italy from May 24th 2014 1 weekly

Jet2 offers a Pisa the action from East Midlands Airport | Derby Telegraph

stuart hammond 3rd Jan 2014 20:56

2014/2015 updates
jet2 PSA on sat replaces a ibz flight, used by jet2 holidays and Inghams, lakes and mountains summer 2014 just updated.

Thomson 3 extra flights NAP,MAH,TFS, but loss of I turkey flight.

Thomas Cook 1 less flight for 2014 summer a IBZ flight .

Monarch same number of flights just a change with TFS and ACE added for summer.

Jet2 around 20 extra flights for summer.

Flybe loss of 4 flights per day with CDG loss and 3 flights to EDI and GLA will we see a new business service to Paris, to give more services include the new Jet2 service, may be we see CITYJET or BRITISH MIDLAND.

2015 NEW cruise flights to Norway a few flights to connect with ships, the flights replace BHX flights.

egnxema 3rd Jan 2014 22:05


Please can you list the reduction in flights to CDG GLA and EDI?

Is BE pulling the CDG route all together?

stuart hammond 3rd Jan 2014 22:32

BE flights to CDG close on the 13/1/14 as per report.

BE flights to GLA will be 3 flights mon to fri 1 flight sat 2 flights sun'

BE flights to EDI will be 3 flights mon to fri 1 flight sat 2 flights sun.

BE flights to BHD will be 4 fights mon to fri 1 flight sat 2 flights sun.

BE flights to AMS will be 1 flight per day

BE flights to JER will be 1 flight per day

I think that is the 2014 summer programme.

OltonPete 4th Jan 2014 00:13

cruise flights
stuart hammond

Re the cruise flights what BHX services have they replaced?

CAA stats for BHX to Norway in 2012 on all routes showw nil, 2011 nil and 98 in the whole of 2010. Is it possible these pax went via KLM or SAS as nothing springs to mind. I can't even think of any one-off flights let alone a series although you would have thought that there has been the occasional charter.

In fact direct services to Norway have been an embarrassment with Ryanair Torp the last regular service.


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