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TCAS_Alert 18th Jul 2013 10:07

Anybody have any idea of Thomson's schedule for Summer 2014 please for SFB/CUN? Read they were putting 767/787 on the route but any clue which flights each will do?

Burnie5204 18th Jul 2013 18:56

As I understand it the 767 was to operate until the first 787 was delivered, which it now has.

How this has changed since the tech issues the other week I dont know

FRatSTN 23rd Jul 2013 09:12

New Jet2.com route for 2014
 
New route to Paris-CDG, 4x weekly from April 2014.

There is now up to 11 daily departures in summer 2014.

I wonder how this will effect Flybe? My guess is probably not too much as I can't see the new Jet2 service being as attractive to business travel.

stuart hammond 23rd Jul 2013 09:30

jet2
 
I see the CDG flights fit in before PRG fights, I wonder why their was around a 3 hr gap in the flight sch.also see today we have a extra FHY flight must be for the high season services to give extra I.T. cover.regardsStuart

paul atkins 23rd Jul 2013 10:39

freebird and onur air
 
yes Stuart it is operating for Thomas Cook for the holiday period also the onur air service on a Wednesday is operating for the monarch group

stuart hammond 29th Jul 2013 19:19

Tom b787
 
Am I right that tomorrow is the first pax flight from EMA by tom b787 at 11.40am to SFB, and on Wed to CUN plus each week tue/wed to end of Oct.regardsStuart

A300BOY 29th Jul 2013 20:32

Best get the fire brigade geared up then for its arrival.

ematom1 30th Jul 2013 01:50

Tom 787
 
Correct Stuart should position in from Glasgow around 09:00

jtb707 30th Jul 2013 16:49

It's good to see the 787 operating from EMA but it's not as impressive as the DC3 parked by the old BMA T2 hanger. We will see a good few 787's operating from EMA in the future, but, I fear, there will not be many more chances to see DC3's here.

nigel osborne 30th Jul 2013 17:05

TCAS ALERT.

Re EMA and Summer 2014.. TOM Brochure shows it reverts to a 767 from start to mid summer 2014. Then whole long haul programme is a 787 as it is from every long haul base in the UK including BHX.

Bad news for Bristol, as its completely dropped from their long haul programme and EDI gets a one off 787 flight.

Nigel

ATNotts 30th Jul 2013 17:31

jtb707


It's good to see the 787 operating from EMA but it's not as impressive as the DC3 parked by the old BMA T2 hanger. We will see a good few 787's operating from EMA in the future, but, I fear, there will not be many more chances to see DC3's here.
You couldn't be more right in my opinion. But I wouldn't mind betting that when the 787 is in it's declining years, there'll still be a DC3 flying somewhere!

MerchantVenturer 1st Aug 2013 10:40


Bad news for Bristol, as its completely dropped from their long haul programme and EDI gets a one off 787 flight.
The TOM axing of BRS long haul for summer 2014 was announced earlier this year.

stuart hammond 7th Aug 2013 06:42

TOM update 2014
 
With the update on 25 July from the Thomson flights 2014 at EMA , EMA-NAP now operates FRI and MON which will be a new flight on MON, to make use of a Thomson aircraft on the NAP flight the CFU on MON now shows TBA, may be a W flight from a other airport.Other change is DLM flights the SUN flight to DLM now goes to Bodrum with a Thomson aircraft so no need for a FHY aircraft, this may be due to JET2 making DLM for 2014 from 2 flights to 4 flights.Their are many changes at BHX but I will let Olton Pete do the changes.regardsStuart

LGS6753 7th Aug 2013 14:58

From Airline Route - Worldwide Airline Route Updates:


bmi Regional from 02SEP13 is cancelling East Midlands – Frankfurt operation, where it currently operates 6 times a week on board Embraer ERJ135 aircraft. Existing schedule until 01SEP13 as follows.

BM1263 EMA1150 – 1435FRA ER3 x6
BM1264 FRA1520 – 1600EMA ER3 x6

virginblue 7th Aug 2013 15:20

So what will the aircraft be doing then? Sitting idle on the ground in-between the Brussels flights? bmi have tried CGN before to keep the aircraft busy during noon-time, but without success as well.

OltonPete 30th Aug 2013 19:18

FLYBE Winter 2013/4
 
Flybe

Amsterdam increases to double daily in the week for winter and Paris is reduced to daily.

Both GDS and the flybe site shows the 175 on the CDG in February which at present would be difficult as the AMS and JER are still DH8D's.

BHD still showing as 4 x DH8D no doubt due to BHD losing a couple of 195's.

Pete

ematom1 3rd Sep 2013 08:11

Ethiopian Cargo route
 
"Ethiopian Airlines (ET) freight division, Ethiopian Airlines Cargo, will launch a once weekly dedicated cargo flight between Addis Ababa and East Midlands Airport, an airport in the East Midlands of England, effective September 1. Flights operate on board a B757-200F."

Quote from:

? The African Aviation Tribune ?: ? UNITED KINGDOM: Ethiopian Cargo to start weekly ops to East Midlands Airport.

No aircraft turned up on the 1st, anyone know if this is correct heard it off a few people now, cheers

LGS6753 3rd Sep 2013 16:14

Tom -

DHL?

Mr Angry from Purley 3rd Sep 2013 16:50

LGS
Not DHL
:\

ematom1 3rd Sep 2013 17:03

Apparently the aircraft is to be operated with Ethiopian Cargo 757F departing Sunday mornings 07:45

Burnie5204 3rd Sep 2013 17:50

Its been showing on the internal flight information screen for about a month now as operating early morning sundays but its still not turned up.

It will be a West Apron DHL 3rd Party Handling job (like the iceland air etc)

Drive4it 3rd Sep 2013 18:29

Yet another FlyBe flight from North of the border cancelled again. This time from EDI this morning.
Im guessing with the 3 slots from both Glasgow & Edinburgh each day they're deciding to not send down half filled aircraft?

On a more positive note i now know how to park in the drop off zone for free!!

David Sharpe 3rd Sep 2013 21:07

Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but more growth for Jet 2 planned for Summer 2014, a quick look through the timetable indicates 71 x weekly departures for the August peak (compared with 53 x weekly this year)

New flights when compared to this year are Budapest (2 x weekly) Funchal (1 x weekly) Paris CDG (4 x weekly) Prague (2 x weekly - reduces from 4 x weekly during July and August) and Zante (1 x weekly) = 10 x weekly flights.

Additional rotations on existing services are Alicante (2 x weekly) Arrecife (1 x weekly) Dalaman (1 x weekly) Faro (2 x weekly) Ibiza (2 x weekly) Palma (3 x weekly) and Tenerife (1 x weekly) = 12 x weekly.

Losses in routes / flights are to Larnaca (1 x weekly) and Nice (3 x weekly)

Monarch appear to be reducing Palma (by 2 x weekly) and Alicante and Faro (each by 1 x weekly) to free up aircraft to allow them to operate Arrecife and Tenerife into the Summer season (both 2 x weekly) but Jet 2 are taking up the shortfall in capacity.

ematom1 3rd Sep 2013 21:13

Does this mean another aircraft will be based for Jet2 as I remember there bein a press release saying they wanted 5 A/C at EMA for 2014 or will the current aircraft cover the capacity?
Cheers

David Sharpe 3rd Sep 2013 21:43

I suspect that a 5th based airframe will arrive if these schedules do not change, it certainly needs 5 if you look at the current schedules (I checked a Tuesday which shows departures to Alicante, Faro, Mahon Malaga and Palma on the first wave)

stuart hammond 4th Sep 2013 06:30

jet2 summer 2014
 
David, I made it when I cheeked some weeks ago 11 flights per day for 4 days per week and 10 per day 3 days per week, also the TFS and DLM to go 4 per week. The Monarch flights are same as this year just now some change in destination on some days.We may see some FLYBE charters in 2014 as the plan for the airline is to operate more charter flights to make some money and better use of aircraft.regardsStuart

ematom1 6th Sep 2013 16:09

With jet2 adding a extra aircraft but meant to be getting rid of 1 757 next year and having 2 737-800's and 2 737-300's will it now be 1 757, 2 737-800's & 2 737-300's for S14?

OltonPete 7th Sep 2013 15:59

FR1924
 
I assume the East Mids - Murcia fairly quick return to EMA yesterday was nothing more than precautionary?

Aircraft only got to about 10000 feet south of EMA and held for a while and then returned to EMA.

Someone mentioned a possible tail-scrape but nothing found, a replacement aircraft was used and the one involved was back flying today.

The aircraft cleared the runway and there weren't any diversions this time round. I think was one other knock-on delay I believe to get the Murcia away for the second time.

Pete

4Screwaircrew 7th Sep 2013 20:09

@ ematom all 737s 3 x 300 2 x 800, there has only been a single 757 all year, with 2 x 300 and a leased 800. Should be all Jet2.com frames and crews for 2014,

FRatSTN 9th Sep 2013 20:28

Even more Jet2 routes!!
 
Total number of Jet2 routes from EMA for Summer 2014 is now at 25, compared to 19 this summer.

New routes added today are:

Kos, Greece (KGS) on Tues from May 27
Reus, Spain (REU) on Weds from May 28

Larnaca is also now staying for S14 and there is now a Thursday service to Minorca in July and August, making that route now up to 4x a week.

There is however 1 less flight a week to Faro, Malaga and Palma and 2 less to Alicante than originally planned for S14, but frequencies are still slightly higher than this summer.

The Prague route drops from 4x to 2x weekly in July and August. (It appears the Thursday flight will be replaced by the extra Minorca service, but still unsure on Sunday).

The schedule isn't fully correct. There is 6 early departures on a Thursday now but only 5 based aircraft and a few gaps here and there. Hopefully this is a sign of more to come??? Hopefully the Nice route will also continue in 2014!

Burnie5204 9th Sep 2013 20:31

Any indication as to whether its a maths error or is there any indication of LS doing Ws?

FRatSTN 9th Sep 2013 21:10

No W patterns. The Thursday schedule at the moment for July and August is this.

Arr.
LS678 12:10 Minorca
LS642 13:00 Alicante
LS602 13:10 Palma de Mallorca
LS606 13:55 Malaga
LS686 14:20 Faro
LS632 16:10 Lanzarote
LS609 17:15 Paris-Charles de Gaulle
LS692 21:10 Murcia
LS604 23:25 Palma de Mallorca
LS634 00:40 Tenerife-South
LS658 02:30 Bodrum


Dep.
LS641 06:30 Alicante
LS677 06:35 Minorca
LS631 07:00 Lanzarote
LS601 07:10 Palma de Mallorca
LS605 07:15 Malaga
LS685 07:45 Faro
LS609 13:55 Paris-Charles de Gaulle
LS633 14:30 Tenerife-South
LS691 15:05 Murcia
LS657 17:10 Bodrum
LS603 17:50 Palma de Mallorca


I suspect one service (probably the Minorca service) may be moved to the afternoon as there is a space there where the Prague flight flies outside of July and August.

FRatSTN 10th Sep 2013 09:49

Jet2 summer 2014
 
Lets update this again...

27 routes in Summer 2014 with another two new services! Now even more routes than Newcastle.

Fuerteventura (FUE) 1x a week on Fridays from 23rd May.
Jersey (JER), 1x a week on Saturdays from 24th May.

Also Palma now twice on Sundays instead of Tuesdays so still a max of 10x a week.

Also extra services to Heraklion (now Tues and Sat) and to Rhodes (now Weds and Sun).

Schedule is now a complete mess. It even looks like they may need six aircraft at EMA next summer but I'd be very pleasantly surprised! Hopefully there is even more to come.

Total number of weekly departures now at 75 (150 flights in total per week).

LiamNCL 10th Sep 2013 16:59

I don't think anything is final at Newcastle yet ? Heard we are getting another 757 making it x3 757s for S14

J-Guy 10th Sep 2013 19:09

Jet2 launching Jersey is good news; bmibaby was a big loss this summer.

A Saturday flight takes advantage of inbound tourists, but I am confident that the route could operate at a higher frequency in the future, even if it is at the expense of Flybe.

Burnie5204 10th Sep 2013 19:37

Flybe wonder why they're losing money?

Just announced on the radio today that they are running a sale by 'paying the APD for you!' which they promote as reducing the cost of a domestic ticket by an average of £26 per person

ATNotts 10th Sep 2013 19:49

JER-EMA
 

A Saturday flight takes advantage of inbound tourists
I'd be really interested to see how many inbound tourists EMA might be likely to get every Saturday - given that they'd have to stay in the East Midlands for a week, unless they flew one way on LS and the other on BE.

Enough to fill a tandem on a good day I'd reckon!

FRatSTN 10th Sep 2013 19:53


bmibaby was a big loss this summer.
On the Jersey route perhaps but there's still a daily service with BE.

For East Midlands, I think they would have shrugged off the loss of BmiBaby by now. I certainly have! 2012 was the most effected year where passenger numbers only just reached 4 million.

After expansion from Flybe, Jet2, Monarch and Ryanair this summer, that has more than covered the BmiBaby flights. Passenger numbers look to be up by quite a healthy amount this summer as a result, and around 4.3 million people will use East Midlands this year, which is even slightly more than in 2011.

The other good thing that has come out of BmiBaby's closure is that East Midlands now has a richer mix of airlines and a growing range of destinations.

It's just Ryanair we're waiting for now for S14 schedules. If they impress by maintaining the exceptional amount of flights they have this summer, I bet we could easily be over 4.5 million passengers in 2014, maybe even enough to push it into the UK's top 10 if we're really lucky??

J-Guy 10th Sep 2013 20:37


I'd be really interested to see how many inbound tourists EMA might be likely to get every Saturday - given that they'd have to stay in the East Midlands for a week, unless they flew one way on LS and the other on BE.
Well I'm Jersey-based so I mean my inbound, your outbound ;)

But, yes, for Jersey the loss of bmibaby was a hit. Flybe has thankfully operated a daily service this summer but it has still meant that the number of passengers using the route are down by more or less 50%.

Mr Angry from Purley 11th Sep 2013 16:59

AT Notts

I'd be really interested to see how many inbound tourists EMA might be likely to get every Saturday - given that they'd have to stay in the East Midlands for a week, unless they flew one way on LS and the other on BE.

Enough to fill a tandem on a good day I'd reckon!
How dare you, the Centre of the universe, even President Obama knows where EMA is. lol :\


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