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PBO 19th Sep 2012 21:34

Spitfirealex, what bmibaby items have gone to the Aeropark? Hopefully the Despatch minibus!

Balair 20th Sep 2012 10:15

Terminal Development
It seems that there are plans in hand to significantly develop the terminal.

A recently submitted planning application for the re-structuring of the short stay car park and associated roads, includes a plan which shows the outline of a substantial extension to the terminal, with the notation "Terminal Security Area Development". This indicates a large extension across the whole land-side frontage of the existing terminal towards the short-stay car park.
Above the outline of the present terminal on the plan there is also the notation "Proposed Terminal", which may indicate the re-development of the upper floor level previously alluded to; the overall project title given is "Terminal Masterplan".
When funds may be released by MAG for such a project is debatable, but at least it must be under serious consideration.

sunday8pm 20th Sep 2012 11:46

I can see the application on the LA website but the documents don't load, do you have any links?

Balair 20th Sep 2012 12:07


On the NWLDC website under A-Z open "Planning Applications - District", then "view applications", type in East Midlands Airport under property, then open up application Ref. No. 12/00792/AIR. All the 9 associated documents should then be available to view.


ematom1 20th Sep 2012 12:25

Ive heard a rumour that the BMI Regional route from East Midlands to Brussels will be closing on December 21st, however the Frankfurt route remains in operation.
Can anyone confirm this?

spitfirealex 20th Sep 2012 18:56

Spitfirealex, what bmibaby items have gone to the Aeropark? Hopefully the Despatch minibus!
There was a lot of posters from the start to the end, models, seats, and a few other bits and pieces. I overheard someone saying they were recieving some more stuff but what that is i don't know !

sunday8pm 4th Oct 2012 10:08

A planning application was submitted on Friday 14th September for improvements to the terminal including construction of a new improved security hall. Related documents can be viewed on the NWLDC website.

handsfree 4th Oct 2012 14:13

This link takes you to the planning page. You have to tick the "I have read etc" box before you can continue further as per Balair's post above

View Planning Applications - North West Leicestershire District Council

From the Planning Statement

The Airport needs to develop its security search facilities in order that new
equipment that complies with modern standards can be installed. This will
improve the overall efficiency of the security search process and improve the
speed that passengers can be processed. This scheme does not increase the
overall capacity of the passenger terminal it provides an improvement to the
passenger experience.

sunday8pm 4th Oct 2012 14:53

From what I can see the plans show a comprehensive redevelopment of the terminal building and IMO represent a significant improvement on the current design.

ematom1 4th Oct 2012 16:55

Does anyone know what happend with the plans to extend the western cargo apron "Construction of extension to existing cargo west apron, re-posting (Land Re-modelling) adjacent to extension, re profiling and re-engineering works to existing apron link road and installation of apron lighting" Leicstershire district council had no objections to the proposals, but i thought there was a problem with the ground with archaeological interest?

J-Guy 5th Oct 2012 08:51

Small bit of news...Flybe Jersey route goes daily for S13, which was probably expected. Aircraft appears to be East Midlands based but will be used on a 'W' pattern to operate one other Jersey flight a day - Bristol, Luton, etc.

ematom1 5th Oct 2012 14:47

what will flybe base for summer 13 2 dash8's or emb175's ?

FRatSTN 5th Oct 2012 17:07

They said Embraer 175's for EMA but also said AMS would increase to twice daily. The aircraft which will do the JER rotation with a W route inbetween is the same aircraft which will operate the twice daily CDG flights. The second aircraft currently only has a 14:30 AMS rotation:eek:

This could be a sign for a new route! I think that this 14:30 departure to AMS will be removed and they will offer a twice daily, morning and evening rotation to AMS instead. If this were to be the case, unless it did W roations in AMS (which I very much doubt), then there is space for a new flight or route! I hope they do daily flight to IOM but maybe NQY could be one, since WW offered that route!

The BHD, EDI and GLA routes are all operated by aircraft based at those airports. What aircraftv will those be operated by. Are they Dash 8's??

ematom1 5th Oct 2012 18:46

The Glasgow Edinburgh and Belfast routes are operated by dash 8's :)

FRatSTN 5th Oct 2012 19:10

That's quite good actually! I hope it stays that way along with the Embraer 175's that will be based there. Brings a bit more variety to EMA!

spitfirealex 5th Oct 2012 23:20

What's stopping the likes of Flybe and bmi regional from opening up routes to scandanavia from ema ? From my understanding there are very few flights from the airport to the area ? Also why are there no flights to eastern Europe or Asia from the airport ? The east midlands has a large population of Asian and eastern Europeans ?

FRatSTN 5th Oct 2012 23:39

Theres a good range of Polish destinations served by Ryanair but I've always thought Wizzair would do well with some East Midlands services. As for Scandinavia, I agree. Would be great to get somethinf like Ryanair to Oslo-Torp/Rygge or Bmi Regional to Copenhagen!

OltonPete 6th Oct 2012 00:28

flybe indicated that 175's were to be used but there apears to be further delays/deferments of deliveries per some fleet websites and this is probably why the Q400 is listed. The summer schedule seems to indicate that it is only a matter of time that Amsterdam will go double daily with either a new route filling the gap in between or one of the BHD, GLA or EDI rotaions changing to a EMA based aircraft.


I think a reality check is need here, remember Sterling and the absolutely terrible figures produced and you could say that they were no Ryanair but BHX has hardly set the Midlands alight to this area of the world. Ryanair Torp awful figures on cheap fares, NYO was much better in terms of numbers but fares were soft and Copenhagen is still just double daily Monday to Friday with Stockholm about to start later this month.

No doubt FR would get the numbers to NYO or Rygge but profitable?


I believe there is a sizable Indian ex pat community but look at the number of Indian operators outside of London - nil. Even BHX has to rely one-stop operators despite despite ex-pat Sikh communities in areas of Birmingham, The Black Country, Coventry and Leamington Spa.

As for Pakistan I have little knowledge of how this compares to the ex pat communities of the North West, Yorkshire and Birmingham but with Air Blue and possibly Shaheen expanding Internationally I have seen few if any mention of East Mids as on their radar and this one could be a tough nut to crack.

What I would not rule out in the future is Turkish Airlines. This might sound daft with BHX & MAN services increasing and doing well but they are expanding agressively and although there is no evidence in the UK as yet (outside of London) of opening up services at nearby airports I think there is in Italy and Spain and maybe the same will happen here with Glasgow and EMA eventually (No doubt BRS and NCL will also be hoping eventually to get the nod as well). Another problem here is IST coping with the expansion and the dragging of feet about a new Istanbul airport (sounds familiar?)


spitfirealex 6th Oct 2012 22:54

I didn't realize the unpopularity of Scandinavia, I would have though a route with Bmi regional to parts of Scandinavia would appeal to businessmen and women ! On another note is it a matter of time before flybe expanding at the airport ? Or does the fact birmingham is so close put that off ?

ematom1 24th Oct 2012 18:31

Based A/C S13??
Please correct if wrong:

TCX - 2 A321
TOM - 1 757, 2 737-800
LS - 1 757, 1 737-800, 2 737-300
MON - 2 A321
FR- 7 737-800
T3 - 1 J41
BD - 1 Emb-145, 1 Emb 135
BE - 2 Emb 175

If anyone knows anymore please correct :)

Burnie5204 24th Oct 2012 19:23

Those LS ones are news to me, the way I understand it its the a/c currently based (2x B757-200 + 1x B737) plus an extra 737

I.e. 2x 757, 2x 737

But once again I may be mistaken given that I tend to find out information that then changes about 3 times but I dont seem to find out about the changes

ematom1 24th Oct 2012 20:18

apparently on the jet2 forum it says from looks of seating plans its 1 757 1 737-800, 2 737-300 was a suprise to me but who knows until its confimed hope its 2 757's 1 737-800 1 737-300 but not certain was hopeing someone could confim it or not :)

FRatSTN 24th Oct 2012 20:35

Bmi Regional are due to announce further expansions from the spring and East Midlands is thought to be included in that so they may be another one of theirs to come.

Ryanair do not have their summer 2013 schedule ready yet, only a few flights are released so it's not yet possible to tell how many they will have. They had 7 for a few years but that fell the just 6 for this summer although there were more flights operated by aircraft not based at East Midlands so the number of flights remained about the same. The winter 2012/2013 season seems to be slightly better than their winter 2011/2012 one so if a 7th aircraft were to return for summer 2013, especially with BmiBaby now gone, it wouldn't be too surprising.

OliWW 24th Oct 2012 20:40

Hasn't been confirmed what FR will have for next summer, I've heard Thomson will be down to all 738 as well.

ematom1 24th Oct 2012 20:45

Like the Tom 757 too :( what's for winter for Tom, Tcx, and mon anyone know? Some BMI new routes would be good :)

redED 24th Oct 2012 22:13

BE start as 2 x DHC8 before switching to EMB175 next year I believe.

Burnie5204 24th Oct 2012 22:33

Ematom, dont forget EMA will have the 787 operating into EMA on more routes than the 767s did

ematom1 25th Oct 2012 02:29

I thought the 787 was only operating to Orlando and cancun same as the 767 did?

FCAcrewboy 25th Oct 2012 20:07

Winter 2012 TOM is x2 737-800
Summer 2013 TOM confirmed as 787 operating Tuesday CUN and Wednesday SFB every week. No 767 in 2013 unless 787 tech.
X3 737-800. No 757 as these are being phased out by Thomson base by base

righthandrule 25th Oct 2012 20:29

Jet2 will base 1 x 757, 1 x 737-800 and 2 x 737-300's as previously mentioned rather than 2 x 757's and 2 x 737-300's. This is due to several 757's leaving the fleet and and increasing additions to the 737-800 fleet.

LGS6753 25th Oct 2012 21:23

From Travel Mole:

Air France and Flybe expand codeshare

Air France has signed a new codeshare partnership with Flybe to launch a service from East Midlands Airport to the rest of the world via Paris.
The twice-daily service will start on October 28, operated with Bombardier Q400, 78 seat aircraft.

ematom1 26th Oct 2012 02:27

Sad to see the 757's going, 2 down at ema its always nice to see something different at Ema other than a 737

sunday8pm 31st Oct 2012 08:27

FR to announce further expansion at EMA shortly. The bmibaby capacity void may finally be filled.

cornishsimon 31st Oct 2012 08:49

Any hint of the FR routes likely to be added to EMA ?


sunday8pm 31st Oct 2012 09:01

Marseille and Menorca are new, growth on 17 others.

BHX5DME 31st Oct 2012 10:01

Ryanair Expansion
Ryanair Announces 1 Million Pax Growth In 2013 In North West


Ryanair, Europe’s only ultra-low cost airline, today (31 Oct) announced 1m passenger growth at 3 North West airports in 2013, adding 1m new passengers and a total of 9 new routes at Manchester, Liverpool and East Midlands airports, which will sustain up to 1,000 new jobs*.

Manchester Summer 2013:
· 34 routes, 5 new routes – Corfu, Krakow, Lanzarote, Paphos & Trapani
· 360,000 new passengers (over 2.4m pax)
· 360 new jobs, over 2,400 jobs in total
· 1 new aircraft

Liverpool Summer 2013:
· 39 routes, 2 new routes – Lublin & Zadar
· Over 180,000 new passengers (over 2.1m pax)
· 180 new jobs, over 2,100 jobs in total

East Midlands Summer 2013:
· 38 routes, 2 new routes – Marseille & Menorca (Growth on 17 other routes)
· 460,000 new passengers (over 2.3m pax)
· 460 new jobs, over 2,300 jobs in total
· 1 new aircraft

To celebrate 1m passenger growth in 2013 and the launch of its Manchester, Liverpool and East Midlands 2013 summer schedules, Ryanair is launching a seat sale with 100,000 seats across its European network at prices starting from just £15.99 for travel on Mon, Tues, Wed and Thur in November and December, which are available for booking until midnight Thur (1 Nov).

Ryanair’s 9 new summer routes from Manchester, Liverpool and East Midlands will be available for booking on www.ryanair.com tomorrow.

In Manchester today, Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary said:

“Ryanair today celebrates 1m passenger growth at three North West airports, with 9 new routes, which will sustain 1,000 new jobs at Manchester, Liverpool and East Midlands airports.

Our 34 Manchester routes (including 5 new to Corfu, Krakow, Lanzarote , Paphos and Trapani), 39 Liverpool routes (including 2 new to Lublin and Zadar) and 38 East Midlands routes (including 2 new to Marseille and Menorca) will deliver almost 7m passengers and sustain over 7,000 jobs at Manchester, Liverpool and East Midlands airports in 2013.”

* ACI confirms up to 1,000 ‘on-site’ jobs per 1m passengers

Balair 31st Oct 2012 13:15

So here we are four days into the new BE/AF flights to CDG and the airport still doesn't show the AF flight codes on its arrivals/departures boards; it must be the only airport where this code share arrangement between the two airlines is in place that fails to do this!
It begs the question are those responsible not aware of the fact, or perhaps they just fail to realise that the information just might be of use to someone....?

Unfortunately instances like this just re-inforce the impression of the airport appearing not to be quite "on the ball" when it comes to communication...!

egnxema 31st Oct 2012 19:19

totally agree!

The AF codeshare and the easy onward connections on the global AF network must surely be a good news story for EMA and they should maximise on it.

ATNotts 31st Oct 2012 19:42


Whilst it's slightly daft of the airport management, most people book flights on the www and will pretty easily find the AF connections by using the likes of Opodo (other on line agencies are available!) or the AF website itself.


Just what EMA needs like a hole in the head - more Ryanair, which means less revenue to use to develop the airport, improve facilities etc that would benefit proper scheduled carriers such as FlyBe and their major partners. Hopefully the airport didn't go out of their way to offer incentives to get the extra Ryanair routes and aircraft to the airport - if they did, I'm afraid it will turn out to be a big mistake.

ematom1 31st Oct 2012 19:47

The Ryanair extra flights is better than nothing the airport having more pax will bring more revenue maybe not as much as the likes of Thomson etc but it's a start to filling the void left from bmibaby, as much as I'd prefer seeing Tom Tcx mon be expanding from the airport it still isn't bad news for the airport

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