olton pete
 

The company is Hurtigauten Cruises, thy have 2/3 flights from BHX this year than switch flights to EMA for 2015, I do not know the airline, but around 4/5 years ago flights from the midlands by a Norway airline.


Stuart

25 years British Midland Crash Jan 8th
RIP

Norway
 

stuart hammond

Cheers for the info, I assume they all went through a hub or there is something wrong with the CAA stats, as not a single pax reported BHX-Norway since 2010!

I do find that stat amazing amd even mind-boggling considering the amount of one-off and short series charters BHX gets in a year but I must admit I just can't recall any flights at all from Norway since Ryanair Torp.

Pete

Pete
 

You may be right as I recall in 2010 flights with dh8 aircraft from EMA/BHX than flights where only from other airports until this year, now flights again from BHX 2014 and EMA 2015, and if i can remember flights to Bergan and Tromso for 2014/15.


Stuart

Norway
 

Cheers Stuart

Will look out for them this year, even a short series is better than nothing.

Pete

Does anybody know if Jet2 plan to operate EMA-NCE this Summer? If not do flybe or Monarch have any plans to?

I hope so. Was very disappointed to find there's no services to Nice next year. Maybe even Ryanair could in future?

As I've just posted on the Ryanair thread, seems there will be a new base in Lisbon. I hope East Midlands will be one of the new routes if true.

Appreciate Lisbon would be operated by units based there, but as a side point how much room for maneuver do Ryanair have at EMA without needing to add more aircraft?

I think there's still a few spaces there. It's definitely seven aircraft, possibly eight in August like last summer. Either way if Lisbon was the base then it shouldn't matter.

mail flights
 

as from Mon 6/1/14 Bournemouth to East Midlands return is operated by Atlantic Airlines B737f, replaces Titan Airlines,
do any of you night owls know any other mail/freight changes.




Stuart

Jet2 733F G-CELW is moving bases to BFS to operate the RM route so no 733QC operating that flight either West Atlantic airlines or Titan is to replace the Exeter route think this changes in march 2014 I believe unless plans have changed

mail flights
 

thanks ematom 1


I had seen a report that from end march 2014 the EXT-EMA flights would be changed to a Atlantic / West Atlantic aircraft,
Would see why the fleet is getting larger, was stated that a size of around 12/15 ATPs 8/10 B737F 3/4 B767F, may be some one can confirm the details.




Stuart

Yeah that's right mate, from march it's effective, from what I've heard the 767s are a agreement with ABX air, I remember that the UPS star air contract for 2015 is up for renewal and Atlantic had put in for some work? Wonder if that's why they are getting the 767s?

extra summer charter flights
 

Low cost holidays are to operate around 12 flights exclusive to ACE/FAO/PMI/ALC/IBZ/TFS, airline may be Enter or Small planet ?.


This is on top of flights with Ryanair/Monarch/Jet2/Thomson/Thomas cook,
which Low cost holidays uses on its holidays.


May be first full charter operated by Newmarket holidays a EMA TO PAJALA santa flights 21/12/14 airline Enter airways. Most holidays flights are schld flights with Flybe/Monarch/Jet2/Ryanair, with Newmarket.




Stuart

What are the details on these Low Cost Holidays flights?

LCH flights 2014
 

Details of Low cost holidays flights I have found


EMA-PMI
tue 08.30-12.00
14.30-13.00
thur 06.15-09.45
12.10-10.30
sat 15.40-19.20
21.40-20.00
EMA-FAO
mon 06.15-09.15
12.45-10.00
wed 16.40-19.40
23.10-20.20
fri 12.45-15.40
19.30-16.15
sun 15.00-17.55
21.50-18.55
EMA-IBZ
fri/sat 22.45-02.15
04.35-03.15
EMA-ALC
mon 16.10-19.40
22.30-20.40
EMA-ACE
tue 14.25-18.40
23.45-19.40
thur 11.10-15.30
20.30-16.30
EMA-TFS
tue 14.00-18.30
23.55-19.30
fri 11.35-16.00
21.30-17.00
EMA-MLA
sat/sun 20.30-00.40
04.10-01.40
all operate end may to end oct 2014 airline/s unknown.


stuart

LCH
 

And also Corfu on Monday's

Dep. EMA 09:30, Arr. CFU 14:45
Dep. CFU 15:45, Arr. EMA 17:15

I have to say that I don't think any of this will happen :(

These flights don't add up to create a nearly realistic schedule for a based aircraft or two.

Plus various other airports also have these extra LCH flights including Gatwick, Manchester, Stansted, Birmingham, Glasgow, Belfast, Leeds Bradford and probably others too that I haven't looked at.

I doubt all of these airports will actually have additional based units. They all appear to be low-deposit flights and most have a message at the bottom saying they are not finalised and only provisional flight times that are subject to change.

However those from East Midlands do not have that message so I hope there is actually something in this.

Is it possible the flight could be operated by monarch? Seems to be there routes? Apart from Corfu?

LCH flights
 

Thanks for the CFU flights, I missed them.
must agree on the operation of the flights , my view is it will be a top up for high season ops, but with 15 flights per week, and some re giging would be nice work for 1 aircraft.




stuart

Looking at the MON/ZB schedule the flight times don't match so doubt it'll be with them, would be nice for a 1 aircraft based from small planet for the summer season

Low Cost Holidays
 

Sorry to rain on this parade, but has anyone actually read the "About" section on the LCH website. See extract below

It is perfectly obvious they are primarily a seat / room broker, and not a traditional IT operator, and as such the chances of them actually chartering whole planes, certainly on the scale that is being suggested seem to me quite remote.

I am no travel agent - but I really don't see there more than a handful of beans in this story - not for EMA or any other airport for that matter.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

The same can be said for both CWL and BRS, as they also seem to have these flights. This is not possible, as mentioned above, LCH is effectively a seat broker, not an IT provider. So for all these flights up and down the country, it will take quite a customer base, something that TOM, TCX, MON have, not LCH. Can't see this happening, but would like to be seen proven wrong.

The New security search area is now open at EMA, has anyone used it?

Fly Through
 

There's a nice fly-through video of the new layout here:

East Midlands Airport Redevelopment Fly Through - YouTube

new fly cruise flights
 

P & O cruise ship based in Genoa will see two flights on the 20aug/15oct, operate from EMA to GENOA with return from genoa/agp 4 flights, this ship has around 1,200 pax so would expect aircraft type to be b757/767 from jet2 or titan , this is serviced by 4 flights lgw/man/bhx/ema.




stuart

That video is ever so /slightly/ inaccurate. The video shows metal detector arches (which are in place at the moment) but, once the first floor is completed and the full search hall is opened (only half is open at the moment), these will be replaced with body scanners.

I didnt no EMA was getting body scanners?

Yeah, it was reported in the local news November last year

Body scanners to be used at East Midlands Airport | Leicester Mercury

Nottingham Post also has a similar article.

No improvements likely for the passport hall and arrivals area?

In 2013 East Midlands had its busiest summer since 2008. In the six months to September 30 2013, almost three million passengers used the airport, an 11.1% increase from 2.7 million in the same period in 2012

DHL
 

DHL look to gain from yesterday's announcement that Donington Park has been chosen as the new global headquarters for FIA's new Formula E series.
New facilities are being built for each of the 10 competing teams at the race track which will also be used for testing the cars.

As the formula's logistics partner I expect DHL will be transporting the team's cars between East Midlands and the various cities around the world in which the races are to be held; the news release specifies 10 in total.

Balair

East Midlands handled 4.322 million passengers in the year to November '13. That's 5.6% up on last year, better than any of the 10 largest airports in the UK for the same period (EMA currently 11th).

Actually, the full year pax numbers are slightly better. 4.328 million with +6.4% on previous year.

I see, I was referring to the CAA stats for November.

Great news for EMA either way, numbers still recovering from the hole left from bmibaby. Newcastle has likely been overtaken by now which will be reflected in the stats over the next month or two you'd think. Big gap then to Bristol so no10 is probably the natural position for now. Of course when you consider overall aircraft movements we're higher again.

And no spying camera car last summer. The only thing that seemed to go wromng last year was the car parking which even with the new car park near the western apron seemed not enough

sunday8pm
 

Top 15 UK Airports for 2013. 2012 ranking in brackets.

1. LHR 72.322 mil (1)
2. LGW 35.433 mil (2)
3. MAN 20.683 mil (3)
4. STN 17.849 mil (4)
5. EDI 9.775 mil (6)
6. LTN 9.694 mil (5)
7. BHX 9.117 mil (7)
8. GLA 7.358 mil (8)
9. BRI 6.125 mil (9)
10.NCL 4.415 mil (11)
11.EMA 4.328 mil (13)
12.LPL 4.186 mil (10)
13.BFS 4.022 mil (12)
14.ABZ 3.440 mil (14)
15.LCY 3.380 mil (15)

Biggest upward movement EMA. Biggest downward movement LPL.

And both, perhaps not coincidentally, very reliant on the low cost, leisure orientated sector of the market. However where EMA scores is in it's non passenger related operations which most UK airports would bite their hands off to have even a small share of.

There's much more to the airport than self loading freight!

ATNotts
 

You make a very good point, but i think LPL was punching above its weight until the LoCo mob moved into MAN en mass.

Could EMA see a similar effect if BHX decides to get into the LoCo market?

I really don't understand why FR haven't done more at BHX

Who is going to make use of the extra concrete ??

The thing I see is that BHX should be a good example to MAG as to what you get when you have proper investment in fit for purpose facilities. Even after its runway extension BHX will only be around 150m longer (c.3, 048m) than EMAs runway (2, 893m) yet EMA sees NOTHING like the sort of long haul and legacy carriers that BHX does.

Legacy/Full service carriers have openly said that this is due to lack of facilities at EMA particularly in respect of Arrivals

That, but I think more importantly geography. BHX suffers by being squeezed by LHR and MAN; whilst EMA has to battle on 3 fronts - with LHR and MAN plus BHX to contend with, and the much larger market in the West Midlands than the East.

The MAG management and marketing people have my sympathy as they must constantly be battling on the passenger side, for precious little reward, full service airline-wise.