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greatoaks 12th May 2013 09:47

New Frankie & Benny's is due to open in July

they are currently recruiting staff for the outlet

spitfirealex 13th May 2013 16:00

Is it known what any of the other new shops and restaurants at east midlands are going to be?

FRatSTN 14th May 2013 13:47

Jet2
 
New Jet2 route from East Midlands to Madeira from 8th April 2014 flying every Tuesday.

Seems now though that Larnaca is not bookable in 2014 but they do fly twice weekley to Paphos so not too big a loss really if it is axed.

Alicante also on sale now with up to 9 flights per week (one each day with a second rotation on Fridays and Sundays).

Only Budapest, Faro, Malaga, Murcia, Nice, Palma and Prague not on sale now (Geneva and Chambery will no doubt be winter skis so not counting them... but Geneva could work in the summer?)

Let's hope they continue the Budapest and Prague routes into the summer of 2014. East Midlands could do with some more year round city destinations like these.

ematom1 14th May 2013 14:49

I believe new route also to Zante begins 28th May 2014 with Jet2, maybe Larnaca could be bookable when the full flights are up for sale?

Balair 14th May 2013 15:26

HS2
 
It appears the government has removed the threat posed to the proposed "East Midlands Gateway" freight interchange which is to be located next to the airport. The planned tunnel under the airport will now be extended so that the line exits closer to the M1 on the NE boundary of the site.
Roxhill now say they will submit detailed plans for this huge development later this year.

Burnie5204 15th May 2013 03:59

Good

That freight terminal represents a serious investment in the airport increasing the movement options for cargo operators looking at how to get their cargo to or from EMA it also creates the possibility of one or more Pax platforms to allow pax to arrive by train too.

ematom1 22nd May 2013 12:36

Jet2
 
Jet2 increasing frequency for Faro to daily from 5 weekly also Ibiza up from 2 weekly to 4 weekly for summer 2014

Suzeman 22nd May 2013 13:57


it also creates the possibility of one or more Pax platforms to allow pax to arrive by train too.
Why on earth would you want to do this when there is a perfectly good passenger station at the Parkway? :ugh:There can't be a business case for putting passenger platforms here.There are NO proposals in any of the documentation to handle any passenger traffic.

If you look at the plans, the proposed rail link involves a terminus in the area, not through running lines. Therefore the only passengers on the train would be those going to EMA......The numbers at present at Parkway are quite small, but at least the trains that stop there are through running and have plenty of passengers staying on board going to and from several destinations with all the revenue that brings.

In addition, according to the plans, the rail link will be a westward facing link from the freight only line to Stenson Jct, which would only allow trains from Stoke and Burton/ Birmingham direct access the site. There is no eastward facing connection which would allow trains to run to Nottingham whilst Derby cannot be accessed at all without a new chord being built at Stenson. The scenario is for 12-16 freightliner trains a day into the terminal when fully open - I would suggest that it would be very difficult to path passenger services in here as well

Burnie5204 22nd May 2013 20:07

Parkway has no easy links into the airport since the shuttle bus was cancelled and that is a major problem.

I'm not saying that they will or would put pax platforms in there but it opens up the POSSIBILITY - you cant have passenger rail services if there are no tracks and once the tracks are in then anything is a possibility with the right funding.

FRatSTN 23rd May 2013 16:32

Passenger numbers are expected to increase by 8% this summer:

News - Local News: Castle Donington, Kegworth and around DE74 (DE74)_

ematom1 23rd May 2013 16:41

Jet2 increase in frequencys for summer 2014

Dalaman: from 2-3 weekly
Lanzarote: from 1-2 weekly
Tenerife: from 3-4 weekly

stuart hammond 28th May 2013 10:34

monarch 2014
 
Monarch have added ACE and TFS for May 2014 plus other flights as summer 2013, may be to early to look at extra aircraft but other destinations might be added in the next few weeks, details on the website.regardsStuart

OltonPete 28th May 2013 15:18

Monarch Summer 2014
 
Alicante reduced from 7 to 6 a week
Faro reduced from 7 to 6 a week
Palma reduced from7 to 5 a week
Malaga stays at 6 but was this not daily and the Tuesday flight cut to accommodate Malta in daylight hours?

April like BHX sees a significant increase in flights due to the late Easter.

You can't rule out an extra aircraft with new routes and then the daily frequencies on ALC, PMI etc added back.

Pete

FRatSTN 28th May 2013 15:23

Could be but may be not. Luton appears to be 5 aircraft again and Birmingham still at 9. Jet2 increasing to 5 aircraft at East Midlands won't be good for Monarch. Would be great to see 3 Monarch's at East Midlands though.

GayFriendly 29th May 2013 08:15

ZB
 
Is there realistically room for three operators (LS, FR and ZB) serving the same bucket and spade destinations with multiple frequencies from EMA, with the same destinations also available just down the road at BHX with two of the aforementioned airlines??

I know historically EMA is strong on routes like AGP, ALC, TFS etc and out performed BHX in April of this year on such routes. However I also think ZB jumped in just at the right time at BHX but joined the party just that bit too late at EMA, when expansion had already been announced by BE and LS that covered the majority of WW operated routes. Time will tell. LS are getting stronger by the year at EMA, I think they are the biggest threat to ZB.

Facelookbovvered 30th May 2013 00:28

GF
 
I think you make an excellent point, i think Monarch are slightly more at risk at EMA, firstly the perception that its a better class and more expensive product, which is wrong on both counts and secondly that Jet2 is slightly less classy (which it is ) and cheaper (which it isn't) works against them, so the real winner will be the passengers & FR with a cost base and productivity levels that are on a different planet compared with Monarch, but ZB have very deep pockets and need to draw a line in the sand at the M42 to stop LS's march south or face being squeezed out.

JuJuMonkey 4th Jun 2013 13:09

Jet2
 
Hi everyone

What aircraft type does Jet2 operate from EMA? xx

ematom1 4th Jun 2013 13:43

This year they have 1 757-200, 1 737-800 and 2 737-300s

JuJuMonkey 4th Jun 2013 19:22

oh I didn't realise they were so big!

thank you xxx

FRatSTN 15th Jun 2013 12:12

Jet2, Budapest and Prague
 
East Midlands to Budapest and Prague is now on sale until November 2014. Budapest stays at 2x weekly, Prague goes up to 4x! Great news!

Mr Angry from Purley 16th Jun 2013 13:31

Does anyone know why the car parking has gone pete tongue wrong?.
I've seen pax cars round behind the BMI hanger, up in the old aero park car parks and today outside the car servicing garage. Is business on the up so much?.
The car park opposite Thomson has had numerous slots marked for disabled now, i presume this has to be a quota of some sorts but clearly there are too many and now normal pax are parked up there due lack of space.
I wasnt sure if related to download and some of the slots in long term being reserved. I guess they are waiting for the new car park bing opened by the wind farm, where surprise surprise one of them has been out of action again for days / week+. If they make the 5% as quoted i'd be surprised...

Suzeman 16th Jun 2013 14:44

This might have something to do with it

News - Local News: Castle Donington, Kegworth and around DE74 (DE74)

Looks like their new developments will be done in July - demand has obviously been higher than anticipated or perhaps the project has over-run?

Local Variation 16th Jun 2013 14:50

Wouldn't be anything to do with the festival this weekend just up the road?

That said, there are some tight wads who dump their cars anywhere round the back to avoid car park fees.

munster 16th Jun 2013 18:07

EMA has signed a 5 year deal to provide 1700 parking spaces for the Download festival.

Burnie5204 17th Jun 2013 01:29

Indeed as Munster says.

They basically loan Download a car park.

But every year they seem to forget to take account of the cars that were booked in. They've even claimed spaces in the staff carparks so some of the staff are arriving at work and finding that there's nowhere to park.



The disabled bays are because they used to have all disabled bays in the Short Stay Car Park. They are now beginning to spread them around to give disabled passengers a choice of car parking rather than being stuck with SSCP or nothing.

stuart hammond 25th Jun 2013 06:47

b787 flights
 
Thomson confirmed on Mon that B787 flights start on Tue 30/7/13 SFB/CUN, flights to SFB on Tue and CUN on Wed.regardsStuart

stuart hammond 27th Jun 2013 14:27

extra coaches to airport
 
From 22 JULY 2013 National Express will operate 13 extra coaches a day to East Midlands Airport, I think it is around 7 at each way todate which makes a very large increase.Their is a trend for more use of the local airport, as National Express is reducing the number of coaches from Nottingham to Luton and Stansted due to falling demand.regardsStuart

Rhino power 1st Jul 2013 21:31

Nice to see TOM 787 G-TUIC in EMA this evening, looks better in the flesh but, still a face only a mother could love!

-RP

Balair 2nd Jul 2013 19:23

DHL
 
DHL's facility was featured last night on Channel 4's "Undercover Boss" programme, during which their UK CEO Phil Couchman stated that it was currently operating at more than a third over its designed capacity!
Is anyone aware of any current or future plans to expand the hub, as I understand when it was first built it was stated that the facility could be extended in a Westerly direction as and when the need arose?

Balair

ematom1 3rd Jul 2013 13:30

Looks like a new weekly charter Aegean Airlines Operating to Crete Heraklion every Tuesday evening Arr: 19:30 Dep: 20:30 operated on a A320 started last night operating on behalf of Olympic holidays

Burnie5204 3rd Jul 2013 23:04

Balair

I am told that when the site was being designed they had planning permission for a second building the same size on the western side of the existing one but only built the one.

FRatSTN 4th Jul 2013 09:48

2nd time lucky??
 
Hopefully it will stay this time and not just disappear off the route map!

Ryanair starts flights from East Midlands to Cork from 6 November 2013, 4x per week.

Balair 4th Jul 2013 11:44

Burnie5204,

Thanks for the info; I would have thought doubling the size of the hub at present would need a very strong belief in their future growth and ongoing commitment to EMA, but perhaps a more modest expansion may be considered, or maybe an additional facility on the proposed "East Midlands Gateway" adjacent to the airport may be an option?

We will just have to wait to see what materialises, if anything at all. Certainly the much talked about new facility for UPS seems to have been shunted very firmly into the long grass...!

Balair

Burnie5204 4th Jul 2013 22:43

Thats because the proposed UPS hub location would require a new ramp building to go along with it which is financially un-viable in the present climate

sunday8pm 9th Jul 2013 21:56

DHL are obviously on to a good thing at EMA, would be good to see further commitment and expanding of facilities. A new UPS hub would surely be a big outlay in the current climate with an unknown ROI and potentially a long wait for them to make such an investment pay for itself.

Aquarius 16th Jul 2013 15:23

DHL at EMA
 
At the time that the current shed was being built I had a lodger in Castle Donington who worked for DHL somewhere in Africa and he had been seconded to DHL at EMA to learn lessons and take new ideas back home to improve their own operation. He told me that the plans at that time foresaw up to 3 similar sized sheds at EMA.

The airport has evolved a bit more since then and I think JCB might have a view on westward expansion but I echo the comments on it being good to see commitment to expansion - especially if it means DHL will seek additional EMA based pilots.

Anyone know where I can get a cheap 757/767 rating???? :O

Balair 16th Jul 2013 16:37

DHL
 
As far as I am aware the only thing coming out of DHL has been a comment on a TV programme to the effect that the hub was operating over its designed capacity.
Talk of expansion and additional routes is therefore a bit premature as they may decide the optimum solution to the problem (if in fact they do think it is a problem) would be to re-route some of the current traffic if that is possible?
We will have to see if anything materialises, but any additional building would obviously not be a quick fix.

Balair

SWBKCB 16th Jul 2013 16:46

Spoilsport - letting real life get in the way of a good rumour! :ok:

OltonPete 16th Jul 2013 18:37

June Pax up
 
Source: CAA

East Mids was up 10.1% to 512,121

Very good news but 2008 was 562746 so still 50000 short.

flybe figures where reported seem respectable around 60-65% load factors

Pete

Balair 17th Jul 2013 10:16

LS are showing 4 flights per week to CDG from April 2014 on their website.

Balair


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