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North Stand Tier3 10th Sep 2008 13:38

Bluebird
 
The -300 is on heavy maintenance at SNN so the -400's only covering for it

OliWW 10th Sep 2008 15:04

regarding the new routes from EMA congrats to bmibaby for bringing Almeria. Its 3 times a week, okayish flight times, good times on a Saturday.

I cant quite but notice but during the week the Malaga, Alicante flights depart at about 9am, and the Palma on a Monday and Tuesday is at 9.05. Tuesday has the Nice departing at 9.20, so that could come of a Belfast flight which landed this year at 9.20 on a Thursday which then went onto a Faro flight. Then on a Thursday there is a Faro flight at 8.45 and Nice at 9.25 with the Malaga and Alicante, will these times stick or are bmibaby not even bothering with the domestic flights? Unless they are having about 7 aircraft here next year, they will either keep these times, or stop domestic flights and flights to AMS and CDG

NJTCF 10th Sep 2008 15:30

Bmi Baby 2009 Summer Schedule.
 
Just Wonder if they have Used Zulu Times and 9am Zulu Shud Read 10am Local Time In the summer.

5am to AGP On A Saturday Means Checkin Opens at 3am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Means the Staff would have to be up at 2am to get to work as Not All Live Locally Poor Souls:(.

OliWW 10th Sep 2008 15:49

Oh yes, that would make more sense

Because the evening Palma on Wed-Fri is at 18.30, and is normally around 19.30, so that makes sense yes.

19031968 11th Sep 2008 17:57

do we know which handling company is handling the cruise flights?

OliWW 11th Sep 2008 18:04

I would have thought that Barbados and Accapulco is on a Thomsonfly B763 so Servisair and Miami and Montego Bay with Thomas Cook A330 or B763 which is Menzies

Flyboy543 11th Sep 2008 21:12

Tomsonfly are doing the Bridgetown, Montego Bay, Accapoluco and Miami flights according to their cargo schedule so they will all be Servisair with the 763. Not sure what TCX are doing but they are currently handeled by Menzies. The TCX handling depends on the contract negotians at MAN as TCX are doing a 2 station deal at MAN & EMA, rumour has it they are not that happy with Menzies at MAN.

OliWW 14th Sep 2008 16:58

So with Sterling leaving, XL gone, First Choice going into Thomsonfly and loosing a aircraft here... Not much left next year :ugh::(

JulietNovemberPapa 14th Sep 2008 17:13

Just moved to a place around 10 miles from EMA.

Flew FR EMA-BHD a couple weeks ago (78 on it). Had never previously been to EMA.

Took the bus from where I live - it took 38 mins from leaving our apartment to entering the terminal, including 10 mins waiting for the bus.:ok:

NJTCF 16th Sep 2008 15:10

Bmi Baby 2009 Summer Schedule.
 
Guess What All the 2009 Summer Flights Have been changed by an hour. Seems as per my comment Above Was Correct Someone loaded them into the system in Zulu Times and Not Local Times. Its Took them Nearly a week to change this. So the AGPALC In the Week Are Now Back to there Normal Departure Times of 10am:ok:.

NJTCF 16th Sep 2008 15:26

Freight EMA.
 
I See On the MAN Thread there is talk of a New Super Freight Terminal 1.5Million Square Feet Being Built At MAN. Is MAN Trying to Take as Much Freight Business AWAY From EMA Before it Sells The Airport?

Im Amazed Hardly Any Money is Being Spent At EMA. The Airport Makes A Good Profit for the Group But it All Seems to be Reinvested into MAN:(.

We NEED New Apron Space Being Put Down. The Departure Lounge is Shocking Who Designed that wants :mad: A 8ft Gap Between Duty Free and Perfumes to Walk Threw. Some of us Who Travel Often and Are Not Interested in Buying Stuff In There. Gate 10 Is Not In A Good Position Right at the End of Duty Free. The Arrivals Hall is Not Big Enough if U Have More Than 5 Flights Arrive at the same Time its Sardines:(. And then theres the Xtra 180mtr Runway Extn Still With NW Leics Council 8 Years On.

Come On EMA its About time You Put EMA 1st and Not Give All Your Profits to MAN Spend Some of This Money On EMA:ok:.

OliWW 18th Sep 2008 18:46

All baby flights for S09 now on sale, apart from Warsaw, where's that gone?

Heard from someone today that baby are to release Bilbao 4x Weekly, Naples 3x Weekly and Bologna 3x Weekly

OltonPete 19th Sep 2008 17:49

bmi baby summer 2009
 
OliWW

They won't get those frequencies in with five based unless they chop
a couple of days off some existing routes, go for less frequencies on
any of the possibly new routes mentioned or base aircraft six.

Again I have only checked the first week in June but there is very
little space although there is a Wed, Fri, Sun gap and they could
probably get some more weekend flying in and late night in the week.

Three or four out of the five based units have eight sector days in the
week except Thursday when it looks as if all five have eight sectors.

Twenty aircraft required to cover all the bases by June, which is what they have at the moment, I believe.

Pete

OliWW 21st Sep 2008 18:12

Well on a Wednesday and Friday they both have a space where the Warsaw used to be, but not on a Monday because Palma was put there and Almeria in the evening, which is a gap of about 6 hours. Its possible for a flight Saturday evening, after the Nice flight and what seems to be on Sunday one aircraft only doing one flight to Amsterdam, I dont know whether anyone else has seen that, Ac5 seems to only be in action on the AMS at 19:30. So there could easily be 2 flights within the Sunday as well. So there is still room for good expansion.

Also does anyone know what went on with the TOM Paphos flight yesterday, was surpose to leave at 7.35 on Saturday, and departed at about 7.55 this morning?

Mr Angry from Purley 21st Sep 2008 20:36

Oliww
Would'nt worry about it DHL have a 757 stuck AOG in CDG since thursday am, it's all part of lifes rich tapestry! :\

timmyp 22nd Sep 2008 23:06

Does anyone know why FCA602 to Bodrum is delayed this evening? Should have departed 2 and a half hours ago, but the departure board still doesnt show an expected departure.

Thanks

North Stand Tier3 23rd Sep 2008 17:39

FCA to Bodrum
 
A321 with lightning strike out of SRM limits. Think they positioned a 767 in to cover?

Right, I'll get me coat.................

SAM-EMA 23rd Sep 2008 17:48

Bit spotterish sorry, but would that be the TOM 762 that was parked on the forties late this afternoon?

SAM-EMA

NJTCF 25th Sep 2008 16:37

RYR Drop SNN.
 
I See From the RYR Forum They Have Dropped SNN-EMA Last Flight 31st Of October. Thought this Route Would have survived With Them Dropping ORK. So Now the Airport Has Lost 2 Routes In the Matter of Months to the SW/W of Ireland Not Good. Sadly PAX Numbers Will Be Heading Downwards Especially When NB Pulls Out At the End Of Oct and XL Already Gone.

Heres Hoping WW Will Reinstate the Cork Flight or Maybe Regional. But I Hear CGN Is Having Good Loads. And Cannot See Regional Putting Two Aircraft In EMA. Even Thou I Did Here A Rumour About EMA-CPH:ok:.

And I Gather theres Nothing In The Computer System Yet Regarding WW 3 New Routes That Oliww Mentions Above:(.

RYR Promised a 7th Aircraft Would be Based at Ema From April 2009. The Way Its Going We Could be Down to 4 or 5:(.

The Real Slim Shady 25th Sep 2008 16:55

EMA SNN is operated by a SNN based aircraft. It doesn't affect EMA based numbers.

SAM-EMA 25th Sep 2008 17:09

EMA will still be needing FR a/c 7 because in the Spring the likes of Nimes, Bergerac, Alghero etc will be back and need a/c to operate them, as Prague, Faro and Fuerteventura will continue to operate and then theres the Paris BVA but thats in the place of Cork.

I agree, I really do hope WW restart Cork. BD would be great on the likes of Copenhagen as there are people who will use the route just not enough for a 737, so just like the Cologne an ERJ145 will suit it better. Cologne is enjoying good loads, so would Copenhagen if BD were to take it over. There was also rumours of Aberdeen and Zurich with BD, any news?

SAM-EMA

NJTCF 25th Sep 2008 17:14

Yes Slim Im Well Aware Its A SNN Based Aircraft That Operates the Route But As I Said Its PAX Numbers That Will Be Going Down:(.

And My Other Point Being We Are Down Basically to Only 4 Based Aircraft This Winter Stand To Be Corrected On That One.The Other Two Are Being Parked Up For The Winter. So My Point Being If RYR Pull Any More Routes We Will Be Lucky If We Have 5 Let Alone 6 Based Aircraft Next Summer and I Gather The Agreement With The Airport to Park up the 2 Aircraft for the winter they Would Then Put a 7th Aircraft into EMA.

Charlie Roy 25th Sep 2008 17:21


EMA SNN is operated by a SNN based aircraft.
This makes it a worse case for EMA.
If the aircraft was EMA based then SNN might be cancelled but the aircraft would be used on another EMA route so passenger numbers wouldn't be affected.

Since the aircraft is SNN, EMA loses all the passengers.
The aircraft is being instead used on SNN routes to NCL, HHN and EDI - these airports gain EMA's lost pax. SNN sees no change in passenger numbers...

NJTCF 25th Sep 2008 17:25

Sam- Ema

Yes Agree Regional Could Operate EMA-ORK EMA-CPH And One Other Route Maybe Zurich? Then That Would Mean Them Putting a 2nd Aircraft into EMA Fingers Crossed Someone Wether WW Or BD Go Onto the Cork Route. This Finishers at the End Of October So Things Need to Be Happening Soon if This is to Happen. Loads on the Irish Flights Are Always Good Over The Christmas Period. And With The SNN Going They Should be Able to Get Reasonable Loads. But As Always It Depends On the Price And WW Are Not Going to Do Fares £1 Each Way Like RYR.

RYR Summer Sched if All the Summer Routes Come Back and The Likes of AGP/ALC/FAO And Maybe a PMI Added All Go Daily We Should See 7 Based Aircraft At EMA Next Year:ok:.

OltonPete 25th Sep 2008 18:01

Ryanair
 
NJTCF

The last time I looked at the FR schedule for November it was pretty
decent re East Mids, I will have another look later if I get time to see
if anything has changed.

Just looked at the CAA stats and the Shannon, Copenhagen, Oslo
and Stockholm carried 10818 combined in November and 11566 in
December. So yes quite a loss but FR will have 6 based and if
they are all flying this will compensate for some of the losses.

However on the downside, no Excel and BMI baby mid morning/early
afternoon flights on some days are few and far between in November.

The axing of the EMA-SNN has at least probably extended the life of the BHX route, as it is approaching one year and other than August it has hardly delivered mountains of the pax (that's without considering yield).

Pete

The Real Slim Shady 25th Sep 2008 18:02

As far as I am aware there will be no reduction in the based aircraft this winter. Any "parking" may be the base trainer.

paul atkins 26th Sep 2008 08:06

checked the ryanair timetable the six aircraft based will be required all winter so there should be no aircraft standing, i also think with the extra flight (sat)to tenerife and the new routes paris,faro,fuerteventura,prague and a daily service to malaga will see a increase on last winter despite the loss of cork,shannon,madrid and the suspension of valencia,budapest and krakow flights until 19th of december. i flew to shannon last january there where 70 on the outbound and 46 on the return i know its the time of year but the payload was bad cheers paul

NutLoose 26th Sep 2008 12:26

So where did the Ryan Air Cabin Crew ground trainer go? It was the old 737-200 that was winched into its "tented" home about a year or so ago..... It was removed and loaded on a low loader and departed a couple of days ago before the building was put back together.

EGAC_Ramper 26th Sep 2008 12:50

Its away to Stansted to join the new training centre there. Also opening up more FR full-motion sims at Stansted aswell for training requirements.


Regards:ok:

NutLoose 26th Sep 2008 13:12

And here was I thinking it was Ryan Air's attempts to cut their fuel bills with a fly drive scheme...........:p

Thanks for the quick answer

paul atkins 27th Sep 2008 07:23

jet2 are to operate a sunday service from november to sharm el sheikh for thomas cook ,this is to replace the excel flight which was to operate the route

davedog 28th Sep 2008 12:36

Has the FR Madrid finished today?

Regards

DaveDog;)

NJTCF 14th Oct 2008 20:17

Baby Not Having Another Baby at EMA.
 
:(Just Heard Baby Will Not Be Taking Delivery of G-TOYL. This has been sitting at SNN for quite a while. I Gather paperwork is the problem to do with the service History. so Baby have decided they Are Not Now Interested in the Aircraft.

Could someone confirm if baby are Leasing Out 2 Aircraft this Winter?

With there Current Fleet with Now TOYL Not Comming Will they have Enough Aircraft to Cover the Winter and Next Summers Schedule. Or Will They Need New Aircraft As Some or All of the 500s Are Going.

Thanks NJTCF.

Sorry the Above is Not Much News But After Seeing No News/Rumour On the EMA Page For Over 2 Weeks Thought We Needed Something:ok:

Stu707 15th Oct 2008 19:17

Baby 737 500s
 
I am lead to believe that the 500s are not going as first thought and the leases have been extended for a further two and a half years.

HZ123 16th Oct 2008 12:08

There is a bit on the 'flyglobal' website that Thompson have confirmed that they are to cease operations at Coventry. Was that expected?

OltonPete 16th Oct 2008 16:32

Thomsonfly
 
HZ123

The only surprise was the date.

The fact that the 733's and FCA 320's are to leave the fleet really
didn't leave much option with the 757 too big pax wise and the
performance issues with the 738.

This left only the 73W's based in Germany with TUI, which would
have been ideal but I doubt that was ever on the table.

Did you mean to pose the question on the East Mids thread?

Summer 2009 had been released and I don't know whether this
will mean extra capacity at bhx or ema I don't know but the
credit crunch has probably sorted that question.

Pete

NJTCF 16th Oct 2008 17:05

EMA 5,000,000 Pax RYR.
 
Reported In the Derby Evening Telegraph Tonight RYR Carried its Five Millionth Pax From EMA On Monday:D Not Bad Going There. I Hate to Think what the Pax Figures Would Have Been Like if RYR Had Never Come To EMA. Hopefully With There 7th Based Aircraft Due Next Year Figures Can Only Keep Going Up:ok:.

stuart-travel 17th Oct 2008 10:48

Rynair
 
Just checked the timetable for 10/5/09 and 7 dep 06.10 to 07.25
so its 7 a/c from may 2009.

Nice to see manx2 now year round service to i.o.m hope thy start EMA
TO GCI in the spring.

A/C to replace xl some tour operaters have greek flights and show flights
from EMA in 2009 a/c qouted are JET2 or VIKING but not confirmed.

rergards
stuart

Bearpit 17th Oct 2008 12:52

Charter units in S09?
 
Does anyone know how many charter a/c are going to be based at EMA in 2009?

OliWW 17th Oct 2008 14:16

Overall its looking like

WW = 4x B733, 1x B735
EZY = 3x A319
FR = 7x B738
T3 = 1x J41
BD = 1x E145
TOM = 2x B738, 1x B752, 1x B763 (Tue, Wed, Thu)
TCX = 2x A320

expect a quieter summer...

I dont no whether its right but I checked on a random date on a sunday at the end of May. and there was early morning departures to, Belfast City, Rome, Girona, Dublin, Bergerac, Paris Beauvais, Prague and Carcassonne, this makes 8 aircraft, so are there 8 aircraft at weekends or something, if the Bergerac flight isnt actually there, the flight after that is Wroclaw at 11.20, which is the 8th aircraft and there is 8 aircraft arrivals in the evening from Budapest, Dublin, Malaga, Alghero, Murica, Berlin, Bratislava and Granada


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