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ematom1 18th Jan 2013 11:10

It wouldn't surprise me if monarch made TFS & ACE year round, is it still the 2 planned A321's for EMA in summer?

Aero Val 18th Jan 2013 12:50

TCX Delay?
 
TCX5124 (G-TCDA) delayed dep 4 hours today, incident with de-icing rig? Any confirmations?

stuart hammond 18th Jan 2013 13:52

Monarch east midlands fleet
 
As far as i no the A320 are LBA,LTN,BHX but thy stated a change in fleet make up the other week with 2 planned A321 now A320 it may change the planned fleet at EMA, but some person may no the latest planned fleet.

Stuart

Burnie5204 18th Jan 2013 14:10

Probably couldn't get the rig to work. More than likely nothing more sinister than that.


MON engineers dont even know whats coming in terms of aircraft. They say that as far as they know it's one A320 (the one already at EMA) and either an A321 or another A320

Flyboy543 18th Jan 2013 17:25

Yes, ref TCDA; Menzies de-icer rig backed into the wingtip when spraying another aircraft. The required inspections and replacement parts arriving from MAN were what took the time.

Mr Airtours 18th Jan 2013 20:50

EAST MIDLANDS - 6
 
Manchester have just bought Stansted for £1.5bn !!!!!

Mr Airtours 18th Jan 2013 20:51

EAST MIDLANDS - 6
 
Should read 1.5 billion

FRatSTN 26th Jan 2013 11:53

Ryanair will re-open two routes for summer 2013 with twice weekly services to:

Barcelona-Girona, Spain (GRO)
Poznan, Poland (POZ)

Ryanair will now provide 40 routes from East Midlands Airport for the first time in history!

As it currently stands, it means that East Midlands will have 7 based aircraft with 163 departures, 163 arrivals per week (326 in total) serving 40 destinations, making it Ryanair's 3rd largest UK airport after London Stansted and Manchester.

ematom1 26th Jan 2013 13:22

A couple of months ago Ryanair announced it was opening 2 new routes and increasing capacity and a lot others with 1 extra based aircraft, what routes have had a increase in capacity?

FRatSTN 26th Jan 2013 13:58

Those 2 new routes were:

Mahon
Marseille


Capacity increses are on:

Alicante
Almeria
Berlin
Faro
Fuerteventura
Ibiza
Krakow
Malaga
Murcia
Palma Mallorca
Reus
Venice-Treviso
Warsaw Modlin (1st time operting in a summer season)
Wroclaw

They did say 17 would get frequency increases but I only make it 14 (I'm pretty sure I've not missed any out).

I have a gut feeling that we could possibly expect the Greek routes to increase in frequency also at some stage as they currently have only 1 flight a week.

Knowing Ryanair, they might have included the new Girona and Poznan services in that 17 as they have both been served from EMA in the past and they might have been planning to operate them for some time.

ematom1 26th Jan 2013 15:18

Oh nice hadn't heard anything announced about the routes that were getting increases but thanks for the info :)

stuart hammond 26th Jan 2013 15:19

ryanair gaps summer 2013
 
I have noticed a gap on the Sunday morning ops approx 1.1/2 hrs flight to return EMA around 09.55 to take the 10.20 flight to WRO, do we have a flight planned for this aircraft is this one more to be added or a late start for 1 aircraft.

Stuart

FRatSTN 26th Jan 2013 16:16

Maybe a late start, it would need to be quite a short route to get back for 09:55.

I've noticed though that the Poznan services are also not timed right.

Tuesday
FR3949 07:40 Poznan
FR3948 12:35 Poznan

Saturday
FR3949 08:45 Poznan
FR3948 15:25 Poznan

The return service on Saturdays is far too late. That flight (FR3948) on Saturdays leaves Poznan at 12:25 local time. As the UK is one hour behind Poland, that would mean it takes 4 hours to get back:eek:

As all other flights on this route are scheduled as 2hrs 15mins, this flight should in theory arrive at 13:40. That would also make sense as a flight to Dublin leaves at 14:30 and the usual turnaround time is 50 minutes when they do a crew change.

I don't know whether it's a mistake or wheather they can't get a slot around that time as between about 1 and 3 on a Saturday afternoon is packed full of the holidays flights by Jet2, Monarch, Thomson etc.

ematom1 26th Jan 2013 19:09

Another thing I've noticed is thomascook having a Thursday rotation to Zykinthos with also the flight bookable through monarch airlines too?

FRatSTN 27th Jan 2013 08:35

The busiest day for Ryanair in the summer season will be Saturday with 26 arrivals and departures (52 flights in total)

ARRIVALS
FR4469 08:50 Malaga
FR9005 09:15 Barcelona-Girona
FR6135 10:00 La Rochelle
FR6032 10:50 Palma de Mallorca
FR1743 11:20 Knock
FR3173 11:30 Lanzarote
FR6609 11:30 Barcelona-Reus
FR4054 12:15 Warsaw-Modlin
FR4155 12:15 Almeria
FR1665 13:10 Riga
FR3948 15:25 Poznan
FR1633 15:35 Limoges
FR9406 16:05 Ibiza
FR4459 16:20 Malaga
FR9387 16:55 Barcelona
FR536 17:05 Dublin
FR9651 18:35 Rome-Ciampino
FR9084 19:10 Alicante
FR1767 20:15 Faro
FR534 22:10 Dublin
FR1707 22:40 Pisa
FR6572 22:55 Venice-Treviso
FR9184 23:05 Alicante
FR1925 23:15 Murcia
FR6602 23:25 Palma de Mallorca
FR3851 23:45 Rhodes

DEPARTURES
FR4154 06:10 Almeria
FR6608 06:35 Barcelona-Reus
FR6134 06:45 La Rochelle
FR4053 06:50 Warsaw-Modlin
FR1664 07:00 Riga
FR1742 08:30 Knock
FR3949 08:45 Poznan
FR4468 09:30 Malaga
FR9004 09:40 Barcelona-Girona
FR9407 10:25 Ibiza
FR6031 11:15 Palma de Mallorca
FR9388 11:45 Barcelona
FR1632 11:55 Limoges
FR3172 11:55 Lanzarote
FR9085 13:05 Alicante
FR537 14:30 Dublin
FR3852 15:00 Rhodes
FR4458 16:55 Malaga
FR9185 17:25 Alicante
FR1708 17:30 Pisa
FR1924 17:30 Murcia
FR6571 17:50 Venice-Treviso
FR6601 17:50 Palma de Mallorca
FR9652 19:00 Rome-Ciampino
FR535 19:35 Dublin
FR1766 20:40 Faro

If you study it closely, even at this fairly late stage, there still seems to be gaps in the timetable and timing oddities.

ematom1 31st Jan 2013 01:26

Jet2 to base 5th aircraft at ema?
 
ThisIs

According to an article in derby telegraph jet2 are looking to base a 5th aircraft and are very pleased how the ema base has turned out.

Sounds promising :)

Burnie5204 31st Jan 2013 01:46

Interesting.... I wonder where a/c numbers 3 and 4 are hiding because looking out the window I can only see 1x 757 and 1x 737...

ematom1 31st Jan 2013 02:17

It's winter now they only need the 757 at weekends along with the 737, but summer I've heard it's turning into 1 757, 1 737-800, 1 737-300, a leased A320 from Hamburg airlines, haven't got a clue what the 5th aircraft is if it's going to be based here for s13

stuart hammond 31st Jan 2013 06:32

jet2 extra aircraft
 
Is this due to jet2 have now 5 more b737-300 due for the summer programme, which my understanding is 1 extra EMA , 2 ALC , 1 extra LBA , 1 extra NCL. may be some one at jet2 can confirm or correct.

Stuart

ematom1 31st Jan 2013 12:41

Maybe that's where they've found the extra aircraft from to base at ema, not sure if there to announce more routes from ema soon? They've done really well since the start up in 2010 adding a extra aircraft every year and adding new routes every year :)

FR- 31st Jan 2013 15:41

Any reason why MOL was over this afternoon?

fr-

LAX_LHR 31st Jan 2013 15:50


Any reason why MOL was over this afternoon?
Did a STN-MAN-EMA routing to give his blessing to the STN/MAG deal and also to report 'record advance sales' at EMA/MAN. No new routes unfortunately.

FRatSTN 31st Jan 2013 17:09

I do think that Stansted, Manchester and East Midlands are going to be Ryanair's targets for future growth now.

MAG are going to have to work very closely with Ryanair now and I don't think a falling out or poor relationship is an option to either of them now.

I dare say it can only be onwards and upwards for those 3 airports in terms of Ryanair traffic.

EMA is Ryanair's fastest growing UK base this summer with a growth of about 27%. Just out of interest, is this actually also their fastest growing base across their whole network, as I know Ryanair are expecting virtually zero growth overall this summer???

Burnie5204 31st Jan 2013 17:51

Course he wasnt going to announce new routes. He only did that a couple of months ago.

FRatSTN 31st Jan 2013 18:07

And days ago...

EMA-GRO
EMA-POZ

were put on sale at the weekend.

ematom1 1st Feb 2013 02:36

Does anyone know if ema will be back up to the same passenger numbers in the summer? Since the loss off bmibaby but the new and expanded airlines at ema monarch flybe jet2 Ryanair?

ericlday 1st Feb 2013 08:22

Crystal ball needed to answer your question ematom !

OliWW 1st Feb 2013 09:46

Put 2 and 2 together, Ryanair increasing flights weekly by 27%, Monarch with two A320s, Flybe with a stable operation, Jet2 with an additional aircraft, its not going to lose passenger figures lets put it like that! :ugh:

stuart hammond 1st Feb 2013 19:06

extra flights 2013
 
If the jet2 flights are correct with 5 aircraft than that will be 2 extra from summer 2012, plus extra flights from tom and tcx for summer 2013.

Looking into winter 2013/14 will see 2 mon based most of the winter.

Stuart

FR- 2nd Feb 2013 08:03

Anyone got any idea, how the airlines are doing in the winter months? Todays TSF is alittle light, was hoping for more than 80 each way for a weekend. Roll on the summer.

fr-

FRatSTN 2nd Feb 2013 23:24

Looks as if it will remain as only 1 BE aircraft at EMA now.

For the summer season, the flight to JER after first CDG flight now has no W pattern and comes straight back in time for mid-afternoon AMS flight before finishing on the second CDG flight. So looks as if there will be no new routes, with EMA aircraft that is but I still think unlikely.

On a more positive note, EDI and GLA both appear now to be going up to 4x daily on the weekdays, lie the BHD route. The additional flights for both routes are late morning time.

It really does seem those days with 1 flight in a 2 hour daytime period in the summer at EMA are well and truely over now. In total, EMA generally stays fairly consistent movements wise throughout the day now. Good for the spotters out there and also gives passengers a better choice of flying times on the domestic routes.

ematom1 3rd Feb 2013 14:52

are the flybe ops to Amsterdam, jersey & paris still being operated on the Dash 8 or are they going onto the emb 175 like they said it would in April?

clearedfortheglide 3rd Feb 2013 16:07

It will remain a Q400 for the summer

Burnie5204 4th Feb 2013 11:46

Well the MD, Tim McDermott, has just announced that this summer is looking set to be the busiest yet for EMA with more routes than ever before and with more routes gained in the 2013 Summer season than were lost when BMIBaby closed.

Also with MOL describing EMA as efficient and very well managed.

VC10man 4th Feb 2013 15:01

My daughter lives in Jersey and we used to use EMA to JER quite a lot. Now the flights on Flybe are quite expensive and we are having to use the BHX flights.:ugh:
I wish someone would take on the route properly, come on Ryanair.:D

FRatSTN 4th Feb 2013 16:01

I don't think Ryanair can because of the runway length in JER and even it they could I don't think they would as they would not be able to fully load, it would the BHD issue all over again. Plus I think APD would still put them off doing a routes from England to Jersey.

GayFriendly 4th Feb 2013 16:43

JER
 

Now the flights on Flybe are quite expensive and we are having to use the BHX flights
BE operate BHX-JER. Are flights that much cheaper than from EMA, I would be surprised if they are although they are twice daily. Jet2 might give it a go from EMA, they do LBA-JER. I think you can forget FR for the reasons given by FRatSTN

VC10man 4th Feb 2013 17:10

I've just done a dummy booking..........................
JER-BHX............£146 inc hold bag
JER-EMA...........£225 inc hold bag

It was much cheaper on baby, it's much cheaper to fly to Malaga, in fact it is only double the EMA flight to fly to New York!

Burnie5204 8th Feb 2013 20:37

Well it was certainly a breath of fresh (exhaust) air to have a change from the light GA traffic shooting low approaches when the Coningsby Eurofighter Typhoon came through this afternoon.

"DON09 RW27 clear touch and go, left hand circuit"
"DON08 RW27 clear touch and go, right hand circuit"
"DON09 RW27 clear touch and go, left hand circuit"
"DON08 RW27 clear touch and go, right hand circuit"
"Starscream" (or at least thats what it sounded like) "RW27 clear low approach and go around"
*RRROOOOOAAAARRRRR*
"DON09 RW27 clear touch and go, left hand circuit"
....

Rhino power 8th Feb 2013 23:27

callsign was 'Typhoon 38'

-RP


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