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nema/robin hood 2nd Dec 2007 13:58

EZY at EMA
 
Hi folks, been a while for me here :ok:

Just looking at EZY's Summer '08 timetable and noticed that the 'new' BCN route is daily!! The last thing I read regarding the route said that it would be 4x Weekly (Not that I am complaining, mind!) Will be interesting to see how FR react with their GRO route/fares. :E

How are the NB services to CPH, OSL and ARN doing. load wise?

Any news regarding new WW services?

Stu :)

bmibaby.com 2nd Dec 2007 14:59

I think it's because easyJet have realised there's sufficient demand for a BCN service to go daily, especially as the only competition on the route is WW at BHX. Thomsonfly are stopping their CVT service shortly, and although the FR route to GRO technically serves Barcelona, it is really more a convenient airport only for northern Catalonia. When EZY pulled off of EMA-BCN a few years back, it was because we had BA and MyTravelLite at BHX, Thomsonfly at CVT, bmibaby at EMA and FR were just starting GRO. The route should be much healthier now. Isn't the new route being launched by totally axeing CIA?

virginblue 2nd Dec 2007 16:08

EMA-CGN has now disappeared from CGN airport's website, although it is still listed in Amadeus.:eek:

Any news from the Midlands on that...:confused:

egnxema 3rd Dec 2007 08:07

The flight times are spot on for weekend breaks too. 1830 departure from EMA and 2200 from BCN on Sunday eves.

bmibaby.com 3rd Dec 2007 19:49

EMA-CGN has been dropped by easyJet from the end of January, so bmi regional will be stepping in with their own daily lunch-time service from mid February. This is, rumoured to be, the start of some more regional expansion from EMA - possibly resulting in a 2nd based aircraft.

Any news of Ryanair further expanding next summer, or might it finally be time for baby to bring back a.c. number six? Pleased to see NCE back, as we'd all but expected French routes to remain at BHX with the strong Ryanair network here at EMA. Fairly demanding pax though, no worse than a JER, but demanding nonetheless.

Balair 4th Dec 2007 14:49

Cologne
 
bmi's CGN service now officially announced starting on 11/02/08 with a daily service, excluding Sundays. The press release also mentions the onward connection possibilities, specifically the LH service to Hamburg - does this suggest a relaxation of LH's attitude towards competitive services to Germany from EMA?

egnxema 4th Dec 2007 15:17

Lowest fare £80 plus tax - bit of a hike from EZY ay!

virginblue 4th Dec 2007 15:20

Well, you cannot seriously expect to fly for 14.99 GBP on a E135....


Given the limited Lufthansa network at CGN, HAM is indeed the only useful conncetion. Anything else (MUC, TXL) requires a three hour stop-over.

Anyway, for those booking under the LH designator (I assume this is possible), Lufthansa nowadays offers "Rail&Fly" for 19 EUR which allows you to travel on any train to any place in Germany after/before your flight. For example, Stuttgart is little over two hous away from Cologne on the high-speed train, Frankfurt just one hour.

egnxema 4th Dec 2007 15:50

LH codeshares are not loaded in CRS systems.

dumdumbrain 5th Dec 2007 20:10

Anybody know what the loads were like on this mornings Ryanair ALC-EMA-ALC?

EastMids 5th Dec 2007 21:09


Lowest fare £80 plus tax - bit of a hike from EZY ay!
A very reasonable price IMHO< given there'll be far fewer chavs and a decent level of service

A

stuart-travel 6th Dec 2007 11:23

Update to xl programme 2008 now 2 flights to ssh sat/wed tue flight now
to her,

From the forum ref manx2 quoted as thy may start a ema/iom service in 2008 as the size of their aircraft 19 seats that may work with a 1 per day service.
As manx2 operate a iom/glo/jer would you see a iom/ema/gci working two routes that have been used from ema in the past.
the I.T travel trade has demand for sat services to both iom and gci the day most hotels in the resorts sell dates from.

regards
stuart

paul atkins 6th Dec 2007 14:47

ryanair-alicante
 
yes lee there where 148 on the outbound thank you for the champagne which was a surprise for being the first to check in it cost more than the seat

friarkeasley 7th Dec 2007 17:01

DumDumBrain

At EZY we don't allow pax to drink their own alcohol, so we can monitor their intake of alcohol on board. Its quite rare that I see people drinking their own, only once a week say. When I do find them, they aer usually small bottles of wine.
Hope this is what you were after

finding_nema 8th Dec 2007 13:31

Are XL basing an aircraft at EMA next summer, or will there still be a mixture of Air Malta / bmi operating their flying programme? Good news to see BCN selling so well from EZY, easier for me to get to Catalunya again - any news on FR potentially starting REU?

SAM-EMA 8th Dec 2007 13:38

I heard that XL are basing a 738 for S08 but that may have changed.

Yes, FR are likely to launch REU but Seville seems more likely at the minute, although REU would be a good route for EMA because we only have charter flights there in the summer.

SAM-EMA

OliWW 8th Dec 2007 15:16

Yes I would have thought REU would be good because mytravel operate it with a A320, but its a very early departure and a very late arrival for some people, and thomsons flight is in the afternoon on a different day, which is normally a B738.

Ryanair could easily get 3x Weekly in there i would imagen
and atleast 3x weekly for Seville

stuart-travel 8th Dec 2007 15:41

xl baseing 1 aircraft at ema as stated in earlier post only change is the tue flight now is her and not ssh.
The air malta aircraft leaves end of april this may be due to the new contract with malta bargains from may all services operated by air malta,
ema has two air malta on a tue for summer 2008 km5246/47 13.10/14.00
km5178/79 19.10/20.00 plus tcx A320 on a tue a/m.

regards
stuart

globetrotter79 8th Dec 2007 23:53


The air malta aircraft leaves end of april
I believe the 'EMA' Air Malta aircraft will be popping up again this summer in MAN, ostensibly, I guess, to cover some of the flying that FJE and AEU are leaving behind..

NutLoose 9th Dec 2007 20:04

So how long do you all think it will be before someone seriously injures themselves on the Airports latest traffic calming measures on the badly designed road that runs past DHL.......

Fine put in some sort of measure, though they do not seem to be that effective.

But paint them black so they cannot be seen well in bad weather or failing light, and not illuminate them either? that's just poor design, just like the road they are on.

Am I just being cynical? or am I just waiting for the first casualty. They look pretty substansive items to, all that shows you they are there in the dark is a tiny reflective arrow that appears to be on the pavement as you come around the bend from the Airport side.

They need illuminating, or is that to much for the budget........

Coming from the track end if someone turning into DHL suddenly decides to stop you now have no way of going around them either....
that one would have been better placed to stop them u turning in the access road and ignoring the signage that tells them to use the roundabout and come back on themselves....... after all they deliberately made the entrance the shape it is to try and counter that....

Mike16 10th Dec 2007 07:46

Hi Guys
I do hope everyone is ok, i have a query and wonder if someone can help ?
I was at EMA last night picking up a mate from a flight he had just landed on, whilst waiting for him i was looking at the screens, and there was an EZY dept for malaga about 3 o clockish, cant remember the actual time, and then there was another one about 5.30 sh ????? but at looking at the arrivals screen, only one was showing as a return, the later AGP was not shown at all ???
Then i thought oh they must now do to AGP on a sunday, which is not rare, when i was there myself as crew we do this, one was at 06.00 and the other left about 5 in the evening, but i have never ever known 2 x AGP to go so close together ?
Then when i got home another weird one, on EMA website, the VCE is showing as follows
EZY6591 Venice 09:35 Check-in Now Desk 33-38
Go to Departures
so i am thinking the VCE has changed times, but there is no arrival for it back to EMA ???
Is this a one off, or a computer mix up ?
Anyway take care guys and before i go, any news of the US carriers as yet ?
Mike

bmibaby.com 10th Dec 2007 10:20

I think with all of potential industry mergers, and the huge array of new destinations which will be open to American carriers next year - LHR especially - EMA is probably fairly low down the list of priorities for new destinations.

EMA's development team have done well though with all the new Ryanair routes in 2007 with more on the way, 3 new bmibaby routes for next summer, the bmi regional CGN route and bringing Sterling in.

friarkeasley 10th Dec 2007 14:19

Mike16, With the new winter schedule in force, even the crew dont know what flights are when any more! I beleive on Sundays and Mondays (Maybe more, dont know as of yet!) the VCE becomes and early flight, with the BCN departing in the afternoon.

No idea on the malaga situation!

Mike16 10th Dec 2007 16:03

Hi


The vce arrival ended up showing in the end at 2pm, and it was a 14.45 hrs arrival, so i think EMA are confused too...... lol

It is well strange at the moment, with times everywhere, poor crew.
Well bless you all and for all the crew that are working over xmas and new year, this is not just to EZY but to all the other airlines too, Have a happy Christmas and al lthe very best in 2008, and i also wish EMA another good year in 2008 too.

Mike

finding_nema 11th Dec 2007 23:29

Just noticed that XL are recruiting for an EMA base this summer, so presumably it will be a based 737-800 to replace the KM A320, along with the a/c that position in from other bases. Are BD charter still coming in? Also has the KM 320 left? I knew it was flying a lot over the summer, then was supposed to be around for a few months of the winter.

stuart-travel 12th Dec 2007 10:27

finding nema

please see my posts of 6/12 12.23 and 8/12 16.41
the air malta is due to stay until end of april 2008 than replaced with xl aircraft ref. xl website,
the question is will the air malta move to man or malta to start the new malta bargains contract, I can not see any work for bmi charter A320 other than a back up for bmibaby?.

On a new subject will the opening of east midlands parkway station in Dec 2008 and new direct trains from south yorkshire i.e Leeds/Doncaster/Sheffield make DSA not a viable airport as is now in trouble and would be better to turn DSA into a new town or bussiness park.

Balair 12th Dec 2007 16:16

November Pax
 
November's figures continue the well established trend for 2007 with a total of 373,479 for the month, an increase of 15.4% on Nov '06

The year-to-date total now stands at 5,036,466 up 14.4% on 2006.

Charlie Roy 13th Dec 2007 08:49

Manx2
 
New route to Isle of Man

egnxema 13th Dec 2007 13:32

I notice TUIfly are pulling their BHX - CGN service frm 13JAN08. So the bmi route should have little competition.

While looking on the TUI website they advertise a service in conjunction with Deutsche Bahn. Any German Station onward from Cologne for EUR19.99 rtn.

EMA should persue a similar thing.

They could set something up for the opening of East Midlands Parkway station in late 2008. Teaming up with East Midlands Trains - any station on the East Midlands Trains network for say £15 return, in conjunction with an air-reservation to/from EMA. I assume there will be a free shuttle service between EMAirport and EMParkway.

EMTrains already offer great value oneway fare from the area to London.

If EMParkway has direct services to Derby, Sheffield, Doncaster, Lincoln, Leeds, etc it could make the region very accessible, and beyond, with EMTrains also serving Manchester Picadilly, Liverpool, Stoke on Trent, Crewe, Cambridge, and Norwich.

Strongly marketed, and promoted through the airlines' websites the combination of EMAirport EMarkway and EMTrains could greatly contribute to inbound pax figures, and the airport's goals of public transport takeup.

:ok:

SAM-EMA 13th Dec 2007 16:55

For anyone who is interested the EMA website has been updated now, making it the same as MAN, BOH and HUY.

Good new about Manx2 and the Isle of Man, I am sure it will be popular, so I wish them all the luck with it.

SAM-EMA

Abusing_the_sky 14th Dec 2007 01:52

Ground staff...
 
I believe this is the right thread to pour my soul out... I always spoke and thought highly of ground staff at EMA. You guys are doing an amazing job, i never had any problems with you, from handling agents to dispatchers... Our job, regardless the fact it's on the ground or in the air, is highly demanding and stressful at times.
But here's what happened to me today. I was disembarking (or trying to) on stand 41. We waited for ages for a dispatcher or a bus to take the pax to customs. Fair enough, we landed earlier, it wasn't on schedule, bla bla bla ( i can find all the right reasons. BUT!) It wasn't my job to marshall but my colleague wasn't feeling well so i thought i'll go outside and let her stay in where it's warm. I only dared to ask "is there a second bus coming" and this....lady should i say started to have a right go at me saying "pardon me, what did you say,i can't take out a bus out of my pocket, you wait until it gets here" and she kept coming out with this attitude problem i just couldn't handle. Now my problem is... finding out she is a supervisor agent (i believe that's the correct term?), i can't complain or write a report about her. Or can I? I have had problems in the past with this lady and to be honest i wouldn't really care if it wasn't me but it happened one too many times and rudeness is something i just don't do. I guess my question to you is: what should i do?

All opinions and advices are welcome.

Take care.
ATS

Beer_n_Tabs 14th Dec 2007 09:10

My advice.....
Get over it & give as good as you get.

Whats the problem with people these days? If this old dear is giving you earache give her some back....shoot her down.

Unless of course she is cute, then agree with her, give her smile, offer to take her for a drink....then back home for some lurveeeeeein :ok: It maybe just what she needs to help her chill out ;)

UPS@EMA 14th Dec 2007 13:26

I see we beat Newcastle on passenger figures for November. Thats a boost for EMA. MAde us 10th busiest for the month behing Liverpool. Bristol results arent out as yet.

Regards

Stu

ATNotts 14th Dec 2007 17:04

Rail Connections at EMA
 
Dream on!!

The UK's idea of running railways is light years away from the way the DB runs railways in Germany. There, they have an integrated transport system - something which the UK does not even begin to understand the concept of.

For the equivalent of € 19.99 you would be lucky to get a return ticket from EMA to Birmingham, let alone "anywhere onward from EM Parkway station".

BHX is in a much better position, sitting as it is on the West Coast Mainline, but there's no chance of our fragmented, privatised railway even considering something to environmentally, not to mention, customer friendly.

Now, if the DB bought out all the UK rail franchises - then that might be another story.

cvt person 14th Dec 2007 18:48

The notion that Birmingham is alonside the west coast main lines is one of those claims that Birmingham is prone to make that has a semblance of truth but is not a 100% accurate. If the west coast main line is the route taken by trains from London to the north west and on to Scotland then after Rugby these trains go via Nuneaton,Tamworth and Stafford before reaching Crewe and as such do not pass alongside Birmingham Airport. However there is a loop that leaves the West Coast main line at Rugby and proceeds via Coventry, Birmingham and Wolverhampton to re join the main line at Stafford. It is this loop that Birmingham Airport is alongside.

Centre cities 14th Dec 2007 20:05

Rail
 
All right, it is on the main line from Birmingham to Coventry/London one of the busiest lines in the country and a one stop 10 min train ride from New Street the hub of cross country rail links.

Now how poorly this is marketed by the airport is a different story completly

Centre cities

johnnychips 14th Dec 2007 21:15

DSA
 
Stuart - I don't think DSA is in terminal :} decline yet. It's still carrying a lot of passengers. It has suffered as some routes have been tried and failed (as happens with most airports), but particularly with Thompsonfly's decision to cut out city routes and revert towards the charter market.

Sure, it was over-hyped, but I can't see it becoming a business park yet - mostly because there are a lot better sites available in the borough nearer to a motorway.

I hope EMA Parkway is a success though.

OliWW 16th Dec 2007 11:54

Anyone know whats happening at the airport this afternoon,

FR1647 Wroclaw is Delayed, had a re scheduled time of 13:30 and thats now at delayed too

WW5602 Belfast has been diverted

and also departing

EZY -> Venice
EZY -> Geneva
WW -> Paris
WW -> Geneva

WW -> Amsterdam

are delayed?
any information?

EGAC_Ramper 16th Dec 2007 12:13

Well looking up Ryanair website for live flight info its showing it delayed til 18.30 due to earlier technical fault.


Regards

StoneyBridge Radar 16th Dec 2007 12:40

C5606/07 - Rwy 09/27 Closed. 16 Dec 13:37 2007 Until 16 Dec 14:30 2007. Created: 16 Dec
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