The AN225 is on the ground at EMA.

How is Sterling doing?

Heard a rumour about Lufthansa starting a twice daily service to FRA starting March 08. anyone heard that?

Regards

Stu

You must have good eyesight...:eek:




Its loading or unloading freight at the mo :rolleyes:

FRA has been doing the rounds for some time. It was operated daily a few years ago by one of BM's Fokker 70s, it did ok from what I can remember, but being only once daily in the middle of the afternoon, it was never going to take critical yield away from the competing services at BHX. There has been a lot of talk at baby at EMA, that regional will be introducing a second Embraer into EMA, possibly to launch a new German route or some of the North Sea destinations we fly from other airports, but until I see a second a/c, also considering slot constraints at FRA, I'm not sure.

I heard from a colleague of mine at Tiny Town that bmibaby at EMA is definitely getting no additional based units next summer, though apparently the bmi charter programme might be larger.

I went back to EMA for the first time today since leaving in September, and it was nice for November to see the airport so busy, particularly the Ryanair check-in hall. Presumably if more based units are coming, they're going to need additional desks, even if Ryanair are dissuading people from checking in at a traditional desk.

Lufthansa launching flights to EMA would presumably fall in line with their announcement last summer that they are interested in being less "LHR-centric" in the UK, which has seen them increase frequencies at BHX and NCL, as well as launching the new BRS-FRA service.

is this def' passenger & not additional Lufthansa Cargo flights?

FC

It is now 4 weeks since baby announced their new routes to Warsaw and Gdansk yet there is still no mention of them on the airport's website! Is the marketing department unaware of these or just choosing to ignore the fact!!! Perhaps someone at baby should be giving them a wake up call?

With regard to a possible FRA service by LH, I think this is very doubtfull due to their operation at BHX, FR to Hahn is far more likely I would have thought.

Says it all really ;)

http://mysite.orange.co.uk/donno2006/AN225_3.jpg

The Antonov was an LCY diversion.:}

i thought LCY was London City ? :\

Little thing called sarcasm ...

you mean like that womens lovely red coat we saw at the airport *nema*. I was talking to some of the easyJet crew yesterday outside of my crewroom (nice uniform), no news of them expanding anytime soon at EMA :sad:

I think the new Ryanair Summer 2008 routes will be out within the next 4 weeks :O and the loads for TFS are in the high 90s with a very good average spend from the inflight bar service.

Lee

And FR seriously need to look at replenishing the bar after the TFS sectors for the poor sods taking out the Murcia afterwards!!:mad:

Dont get me started on that one, but Alpha had the great idea of doing our bars in BHX now. So now when I go on to my a/c and tell the dispatcher I need some more mags/milk i get a big fat, you've got no chance. Maybe things will chance, as TFS is moving to a 0600 departure, so maybe it will be back in time for a less busy flight.

Lee

I too have been quite disappointed to see that the new baby routes have not been mentioned on the EMA website, when most Ryanair and the new Sterling launches have been focused quite prominently. Hopefully this will be a start for baby to operate into more adventurous destinations from our home base, as we've been ignored for a little while!

I was loving that hooker coat! It was nice to see those of you that I bumped into yesterday, my visit not accompanied by too dramatic a soundtrack!

I don't think easyJet would base any additional aircraft at EMA unless there was a massive shake up of the other based carriers. They've managed a profitable mini-base with three based aircraft so far, so why mix with that formula. It is nice to see them bringing BCN back though.

....It is nice to see them bringing BCN back though.

It is, but it's at the expense of the CGN route. The airport has one of the lowest percentages of passengers travelling on business - just 12.4% of the total, or to put the airport spin on it "the highest number of leisure passengers in the country" it really does need to hold onto such routes and do what ever it can to attract more business oriented ones.

Sorry to get on my Catalan high horse (for the second time in this thread, I think the last time was telling people how to properly pronounce Girona), but I'd say BCN is something of a business market, even though it obviously also attracts a number of sun worshipers and weekend breakers.

finding_nema,

You don't need to get on your high horse, I wasn't suggesting BCN is purely a leisure destination, in fact I have business contacts there so the new route will be useful to me, although a daily sevice would be better!
It is the fact EMA are losing a daily CGN service which is my concern.

I'm really surprised that no airlines appear to be able to make CGN to the Midlands work. From what I can remember we've had HLX try from both CVT and BHX, germanwings from BHX and easyJet's EMA service over the last few years. Obviously the main airport for the region is DUS, but considering it's so slot constrained and the market sown up between flybe and Lufthansa, it's surprising that the slack hasn't been picked up by CGN.

Not meaning to be on a high horse, Catalan ferociousness and all that ...

43 pax inbound on tonights UKIA

Makes FR's BHD service look good!! :oh:

Just taken from the ICC TRANSPORT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PASSENGER SERVICES meeting as follows:

'Discussions were taking place with KLM in order to promote business'

Are we expecting an announcement anytime soon?

Regards

Stu

Stu,

I would have thought the comment regarding KLM would have been a little more positive if any announcement were imminent. However at least it suggests the airport is actively looking to have KLM's AMS service re-instated.

Any comments on Sterling's ontime performance at EMA. Am trying their EMC CPH route for the first tie in a couple of weeks. Quite a bit of bad feedback from a number of pax regarding incredibly tight seat pitch - 28inches!:sad:

Has the Sterling flights had a decent number of pax on them? I'd be certainly interested to in the reviews they've been getting.

Considering them for a break to Copenhagen, and it would certainly save a journey down to STN to fly with Easyjet.

Most of the loads have been fairly resonable, lowest i've seen is 30 highest is 140 typical somewhere between 60-100. OTP has been pretty good, the CPH today was just under 2 hours late inbound but apart from that their almost all on time. Crew seem quite friendly aswell.

I'm doing EMA CPH EMA next weekend - I'll make a few notes for you Flyboy543 :ok:

All I want for Christmas
 

MON9160East Midlands - Nottingham.Lei00:05

Is this ready for the santa flights? If so isn't it abit early to be going to see santa?

Lee

monarch
 

no lee it is a northern light flight to see the stars

What time does it depart if its arrival is 00:05 - can't see anything on the departure board, or is it leaving from a different airport?

monarch
 

it is normally in the air for around 3 hours, so it still as time to go onto the departure board

due to depart 2105 and land at 0008 friday morning according to flytecomm. arrival from birmingham at 1944

it's filed as an A321 on the flightplan, positions out to Manchester

Fried Chicken

October Pax
 

October was another good month with a provisional figure of 474,171 +6% on Oct 2006, giving a rolling year total of 5,306,603 +15.7%

Interesting to hear that KLM are being spoken to by the airport, certainly the airport is in need of a full service airline to operate into a hub. I know bmi regional has looked into flights to Germany before, but has been prevented by slot availability and I believe a clause in bmi's ECA with Lufthansa and SAS.

What about a LH regional service to MUC/FRA?

Im not sure about the German national carrier coming to EMA anytime soon. However EMA really does need to build its cheap routes to Gemany, not only is it a nice country to visit. But Germany is the UKs biggest trading partner in the EU.

Lee

No it doesn't - it needs a full-service operation to somewhere like Germany, into a hub like FRA or MUC, not only to get people to somewhere meaningful in these countries (as opposed to waste-lands up to 100km from any sensible business centre), but also to somewhere people can connect easily onto long haul services. Anything else just continues to send pax down the road to BHX to use airlines like LH, KL, AF for long haul connections.

A

Flights to these so called waste land airports, is the main driving force of EMAs growth so I wouldn't be calling them too fast. Doesn't LH already have flight to BHX? So why would it set up operations at EMA. You would be shocked to see how many business pax I see on my flights. And if you want long hual flights, what wrong with a drive to MAN or LHR/LGW

Lee