FR winter
 

Just checked some Nov & Dec dates and I could not find flights
for the following: -

AHO
EGC
FNI
GRX
LDY
MAD
RIM
SCQ

I believe that some of these stop every winter but MAD is the surprise.

Pete

Yup EGC/AHO/RIM and FNI stop for the winter.



Regards

scq stopped last year and never came back.

RYR Parking Aircraft at EMA This Winter.
 

Ive Heard RYR are going to park 2-4 aircraft up over the winter at EMA. Can anyone confirm this and i presumbe they will be parking two aircraft on a stand will they be using the stands near to JCB Hanger.

Flying to Las Palmas in July on TCX, does anybody know what aircraf are based at EMA for the summer season? Can't remember the flight number but it departs around 9pm and arrives back in EMA at 7am'ish.

Thanks

Pair of A320's

NJTCF
unlikely to be down by JCB, may get one/two on the 40's overwinter or on the fingers on maintenance taxyway-could go at bottom of that taxyway of course if we can get rid of the purple poppadum!

Cheers AP :ok:

Re parking Ryanair a/c, most of the finger points are full with small props, that leaves the wash bay the only place that they could park a 738 that doesn't obstruct any other a/c (assuming the UKIA stays put) I did see the other week a Ryanair on a 'new' stand which does have a white chalk like on the floor but nothing permanent of 31L. If Ryanair keep 6 based a/c then the 40s will be needed for operational a/c.

The airport has just built a new road connecting the DHL apron with the central apron which could mean they are planning to park a few down there over winter. Having said that I haven't been down there in a while so don't know how many stands would be free all the time.

Interesting to see that Astraeus have lost the Gambia flight, surely Hamburg Int. would spend a lot of cash ferrying these a/c about unless there's something we don't know about yet.

Stand 31L is designed for a/c up to B738, but isn't often used because the airlines prefer a front stand that doesn't need to be coached both ways. Stand 5 isn't large enough for a 738, and 30 is currently used for night-stopping Thomas Cook a/c.

As far as the Eastern and Western aprons are concerned, although they are mostly unoccupied during the day, they are very busy at night.

There are only two places I can think of which could accomodate a 738; at the rear of the Prestige hangar, although this may interfere with the Helimed operation, and the other is taken by a large purple aeroplane!

R5

They could always park them with the b727 on the north edge of the field, give something to the fire section to do during the winter months...:E

BMI Baby.
 

Both the WW5602 BFS + WW5476 AMS Are Arriving by coach from BHX this morning are Baby that short of aircraft. FR Must be rubbing there hands on the BHD Route if you are going to keep on bussing your Pax up the M42. Ive heard there second aircraft is in Canada at the moment but they are not sure when this will turn up. Think the first for delivery is still in Budapest its painted up just got a whole load of defects on it which need sorting before it can be signed over.

UKIA 767 Could be Moved over to the North of the field to replace the Turkish 727 Over there and become the new fire trainer. I Think Once the engines are removed and a few other bits and bobs this will all it be good for. To get that beast airborne is going to take a hell of alot of time and money would it be worth it. Its Not Moved for Over 6 Months. Did here a Rumour it might go to Cambridge. But Dont Think thats Going to happen.

Its Was Good to see a Kalitta 747 Operating a cargo charter from here Tuesday. :ok:

BMI Baby
 

JER-BHX diverted to EMA I believe (G-TOYE?)

Per acarsd G-TOYA midday CWL - AMS on 25th nothing since
G-TOYD No flying today at all thus far
G-TOYJ BFS-CWL on 24/5th and nothing since
G-BYZJ started today on lunchtime BHX-BFS?
G-OGBD showing BHX-WAW today as first flight.

I know acarsd has to be taken with a pinch of salt sometimes but it sounds like a bad couple of days.

Th other worrying thing is if they got all the pax on BFS-BHX & AMS-BHX
or were others re-routed. The way BFS has been I suspect they would
have come close to accommodating them all on the one aircraft.

G-DBCK A319 is operating on MAN flights.

Pete

Misunderstood some info the AMS-EMA aircraft was diverted in to BHX
the pax were not all on the BHX aircraft (there would have been too many anyway).

.......and I wonder just what Ryanair would have done for the pax in the same circumstances? I think we all know the answer to that one !

Security Cameras Now On All Approach Roads to the Aiport.
 

In the last few days Security Cameras have been Erected on all Three Approach roads into the Airport. There are cameras watching you in and out.

FR Parking Aircraft at EMA Over the Winter. If the UKIA 767 was Not there How many 738 could they park there. Did BMI Park 2 x A321 There when there were the cut backs after 9/11.

Completely correct Little Blue. Ryanair would have flown in a nice shiny brand new 737-800 from Dublin or Stansted to operate the service.

Let me see 160+ 738s or 15 manky old 733s,4s and 5s? :ugh::ugh::ugh:

Probably wouldn't let the situation arise in the first place as the aircraft are so new :D:D:D:D:D:D

I think we BOTH know that would never happen, don't we?

I think we both know Little Blue!! I agree with you!BTW Justin, since when did Baby have 'manky old' 737-400???News to me and I fly on their aircraft 6 days a week and I've never been trained on the 737-400!! Get your facts right before you slag us off!

easy winter 2008/9
 

Reported on sale per the easyjet thread.

Some changes from last winter which I suppose was inevitable.

However no cutbacks on PRG, AGP or ALC with potentially all
having three operators.

Venice shows 5 a week in November and Geneva 4 a week but
both increase I believe late December although I have not
checked every winter month as yet.

I have counted just six or seven flights some days in November
with the three based aircraft. It must be tense times for the base
but at least the flights are on sale.

Pete

Little Blue/bmia330
 

Just for information FR do fly in other planes from bases calling up crews off standby despite what you BELIEVE.

As an aside speaking of FR parking up a/c at EMA. They may do but if they did I would imagine they wouldn't be sitting around permanently as the a/c would be rotated around flying duties, least one will be available all the time for base training.


Regards

I stand corrected; the 400s obviously went leaving just the 3s and 5s.

So the story of the cockroach jet was invented by some malicious insect lover then?

An aircraft infested with cockroaches qualifies as manky in my book.

'Security' cameras
 

NJTCF,

most probably ANPR cameras, the signs have been up for some time now. Like most things they will be justified on 'security' grounds, but that doesn't mean you won't be prosecuted for not having a valid tax disc or MOT!

R5

ANPR cameras are at all traffic hotspots these days whether it be for non taxed or insured wrecks heading for download or East European tarts and their crime bosses coming in on Ryanairs flights & flight crews from Europe that are still driving a around on European plates despite been res in the UK

P & O cruise ema programme
 

Now confirmed 2009/10 caribbean programme from ema and the airport will have 36 flights nov to apr 2009/10 , makeing east midlands no3 airport for
P & O cruise behind gatwick and manchester.

The increase in cruise flights is due to new cruise ship VENTURA based in the caribbean and require 8 flights per cruise to service this ship, also in the caribbean is ships ARTEMIS AND OCEANA.

Programme shows flights with TOM AND TCX but may be others.


regards
stuart

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The AA&R Mods

Is anyone else at EMA getting cheesed off with security staff??
 

Every morning I go to work, and like everyone else, I have to go through staff security. And believe you me, i DO NOT need added stress to the long day ahead.
So i go through. Que for ages. See snooty other crew not taking their jackets/shoes off when going through "the magic" gate and get away with it. |Is it the uniform we're wearing?..It's not even my turn and some overzealous security staff shouts at me: Get your shoes off love! Why??? A: I am not your love, never have been and you'll never aspire me to be your love. B: The thick one in front of me didn't so why should I?? (i know it's one in 3 people but the girl in front of the thick one DID take her shoes of so... catch my drift)
Then after a bulloc:mad:ink cause i didn't take my shoes off, my crew bag is getting searched. They go through my food, my personal private little bag with spare tights, knickers, even bloody tampons!!!! What the hell is wrong with you? Have you got any idea what "common sense" means??:ugh: And then they decide they're going to test the liquids in my clear plastic bag and they always chose the most expensive thing i have, either a perfume or a cream (excuse me for liking nice, expensive things and i don't shop at your local Poundland,love). I argue saying excuse me, that cost a lot of money, can you chose something else? They don't care. They do it anyway.
One of these days i'll snap and i will bring my solicitor with me while going through security. And then sue the apt's security company for unlawfull and disrespectful treatment (something like that anyway, aparently i could have a big case going to the Human's Rights Court and Employment Tribunal...)
It's ridiculous. What i am going to do with a perfume, spray a pax to death??? Or my lipgloss, use it to fight a drunk pax???
Love, (if i have to speak your chav language to get through to you, I will), I have no interest in harming a pax with my handcream. Unlike you, I use my sanitizer cause i have been in contact with hundreds of people a day and i wish to stay healthy, not like you the one and only "amazing" security staff who sits on their ar$se all day and the most exciting part of your day is when you're planning your lunch break.
Have some common sense, love...

This is not aimed at ALL security staff. The majority are dead nice and leave you alone and when they have to test your stuff, they go: which one would you like me to test?

But there's always that ONE ar$ehole/biatch, who ruins my day even before i started it.

Is there anyone who is going to do anything about this??? It's getting worse and worse and one of these days my manager and solicitor will have a friendly chat, love, with the APT's management.

And I am far from joking.

Abusing The Sky

Quite simple really. Next time you get stopped, refuse to fly and say that you are not in the right frame of mind to fly and you consider that it would be dangerous to do so.

That is the only way for any action to be taken, alternatively stick a used tampon in with the other stuff, they will not bother you again

I heard that easyjet might be considering staying at EMA but only with 2 A319 in stead of 3...

Also today someone mentioned that Thomas Cook might be changing from 2 A320 next year to 1x A320 and 1x A321... It would be a good boost for them, but, aparantally Thomsonfly have said as well... they are possibly going to consider having 2x B752 and 1x B738

I see the DHL flight from Vitoria has been changed from a 757 to a Swiftair 733 as of this week.

been a Swiftair B733 for couple of weeks now

OliWW,

on current timetable, 3 based units are needed for the whole of the winter. Also I too have heard that the combined FCA/TOM based units next year could consist of 2 x 757, 1 x 738, 1 x A320 and part week 763.

Regards

Stu

Abusing_the_sky

Argubly, you have a choice.

You can refuse the search I suppose but they'll refuse you entry. What do you do then though? :bored:

More importantly, they cannot instruct you to do anything. They must seek your permission. Whether you give it is a matter for you but you cannot be compelled to do anything by them.

I've always found them better than most at EMA to be fair though. They are being watched as well which people sometimes forget. Not ideal though I agree.

The stupidity of the arrangements are not their fault. Now if you want to talk about being an arsehole for the sake of being an arsehole let's talk about the security staff at Birmingham......:mad:......I am apalled that they get away with some of the interactions they get away with there.

donnington 2010 f1
 

hey all just heard on the news that donnington park will stage the f1 from 2010 looking forward to the extra traffic it will bring to ema.i dont know about the roads around the airport will deal with all the extra traffic it will bring

Donny park to get Grand Prix from 2010
 

Bernie E has signed a 10 year deal with the owners of Donny park to stage the British GP from 2010, this will be a real boost to the airport given its close proximity to the race circuit.

This should just about bring the roads around the M1/M42/A50 to complete grid lock, i think its time to get your leave bid in now.

So that would be Download Fest, Moto GP and GP in just about a month!!

I used to be the licensee of the Green Man Inn at Silverstone. The helicopter traffic alone was something else. I don't know where the fixed wing stuff went, but I guess it will be good to have an international airport next door from 2010.

Grand Prix weekend was always a buzz. Looking forward to being reunited with it.

Abusing_the_Sky

For gods sake quit your whining, if you don't like it get a job flipping burgers.
I have to go through security several times a day, not just once, and rather than moan I just get on with it.

Maybe that 'ONE ar$ehole/biatch' realises you have some sort of attitiude problem, because frankly thats how you have come across to me after reading that tosh, and rest assured if they have a reason to think you are annoying they will make sure you are the one they pick out.....good on 'em I say. In general they have a crappy job to do, so it maybe one of the few perks of the job.

To be frank again..... after a comment like that you deserve to get the full rubber glove treatment on a daily basis. As far as I am concerned if some one is prepared to work rather than claim the dole they get a :ok: in my book.

Grow up !


Edit: traffic wardens don't count with regard to working against claiming dole, they are just weird, and probably enjoy eating worms

beer_n_tabs

Bit harsh that Sir, the lady is offended by their overbearing actions. This IS the place to report and vent one's spleen.

She should be indulged,

Someone obviously got out of bed the wrong side!!

Beer n tabs, there is a fairly lengthy thread in R and N on the very topic of frustrations with security.

ATS is obviously not alone in finding some difficulty with the searching.

Time to take a chill pill :D:D