Or, alternatively, they believe Brexit won't happen

Best of British to Primera or more like 'saving ones bacon' - Danish that is!

While I think it's less important now whether it's a household name because of Skyscanner etc so wouldn't write them off on the routes chosen, there is only so much they can do if they stick to A321s. I mean, where else can they get to that people would actually be interested in visiting? Washington, Halifax and Montreal are the only ones that come my mind. Even Washington might be too far.

It did exactly what AA wanted last time - put the competition out if business and they then withdrew to heathrow

That's exactly my point.

I was one of those affected by AA pulling out within weeks of them adding a second daily schedule that never happened and my booking was shifted to LHR.

There is near zero chance of AA or anyone else coming in as a spoiler. It was different last time around, Eos and to a lesser extent Maxjet were poaching premium pax where the real money is. There is no need to come to Primera, they can just dump bargain fares on their existing flights at LHR/LGW.

For example I could right now book VS to BOS for £295 including food, drink, bags and entertainment.

For the record the config of the Primera A321neo`s will be C16/Y182....Full Service Premium & Low Fare Economy..

Can the 321 Neos go the distance without refuelling in KEF?

a321neo
 

does depend on the new A321neo having ETOPS 'out of the box' plus also does the carrier have ETOPS approval and experience


may help see here
http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/59498...ification.html

Thomson/TUI
 

Seems the Thursday PMI and Friday IBZ flights have been removed from the booking engine for Summer 2018. I doubt the aircraft will sit there doing nothing so maybe a new route or two on the way?

Maybe this is the first signs of Jet2 giving TUI a push on their bread and butter routes. Maybe we'll see something different from TUI? Naples would be a good fit for the Friday.

Most people on big US holidays plan it a year plus in advance it appears talking to friends, must admit don't fall into that category.
Some who have just returned and also about to go highlighted that if pound goes below $1.2 then would make it an issue in terms of cost. As is they planned for $1.50 plus and got $1.25.

I do see less people doing TA if £-$ falls further.

From this end - makes the UK more attractive to Americans

True but mericans likely to use their own airlines or well known ones first.

Nice to see the Hainan Airlines B789Dreamliner) at STN today... if only on a one off...

The brand new Hampton by Hilton hotel with 357 rooms over 7 levels & adjacent to the terminal opens today........

Jet2
 

Naples, Malta, Nice
Increased frequency on routes already served
10 aircraft base Summer 18

Jet2 announces more new routes from Stansted

Excellent news re Jet2 for Summer`18...this is the 2nd increase announced for `18 & makes it now a 60% increase over this year for 1.4m seats...& for a 10 unit base..who would have believed it in such a relatively short time...they have another swathe of 800`s arriving so keep it up....

Very good new indeed! Good news for STN. Takes LS up to 22 departures a day, which is starting to encroach on EZY's number 2 position at STN and their routes. Seeming they like to be either no 1 or no 2 at airports, which is part of the reason they gave up at Hamburg. EZY has two choices, throw in the towel or grow.

EZY advertising for full time A319/20 cabin crew to be based at SOUTHEND for 2018,so looks like we are getting our 4th aircraft, Might have something to do with the expantion of LS at STN

Wrong thread! Though also, won't EZY be looking for cabin crew for almost everywhere almost every year? The staff turnover must be horrific?

TUI/Thomson Summer 2018
 

Looks like Bulgaria is a new destination for Summer 2018 and Antalya is set to continue now with a Friday departure.

Good news though still 2x rotations down on S17 short-haul with also no signs of any long-haul for S18

TUI/Thomson
 

Longhaul confirmed as cancelled after Summer 17 SFB/CUN/MBJ

S18 Capacity
 

Correct me if I'm wrong but is STN not full as far as slot allocations in the busy AM period? Won't this limit any major basing of the likes of Jet 2 further?

Although it was confirmed a few months ago that long haul with TUI from Stansted was being cancelled for summer 2018 does anyone know the actual reason for this as I would have thought the demand was there. I know Thomas Cook offer similar long haul flights from Stansted but surely TUI would have been able to offer a bit of competition.

Personally I think TUI/Thomson arrived on the longhaul scene at STN two years too late. Thomas Cook have got it to themselves now. Personally I see it as a growth area for Thomas Cook now.

Pabely.....To part answer your query,Stansted is capacity controlled at present by previous planning consents both with ATM`s & pax numbers..MAG is on the road this month in 8 local communities with an exhibition to explain it`s intention & plans to apply in late Summer for planning permission for the lifting of all caps in terms of flight numbers to grow STN with the max use of the existing R/W...this equates to approx 44M pax per year....ie LGW....So hopefully room for more Jet2`s in the future..

southside, slot availability and movement caps are two very different things.

MAG could be successful in getting an overall cap raised, but that doesn't magically release some extra slots between 6-9am when there are none, or in the increasingly congested 9pm-midnight period. So pabely is right in that there can't be an explosion in based aircraft, although there is still plenty of availability before 6am and after midnight which would still suit the way Jet2 operate. Those sorts of slots have been widely used at LGW for some time. Even Ryanair now have some arrivals well after midnight, previously they've had nothing scheduled to arrive after 23:55.

AirportPlanner1: "there is still plenty of availability before 6am and after midnight"

Technically there isn't. The government sets a limit on the number of night movements as well as a night noise quota at all 3 major London airports. LGW is at its limit & STN will be too this summer. Next year will see a revised series of rules which may see some changes but I won't get into details as I'm not really up to speed on these yet

AirportPlanner1.....I agree to disagree.....The model you need in mind is LGW,with max permitted use of it`s R/W STN will be able to achieve the same sustained movement flow rate which is higher there...slot availability can be dictated by movement rates too surely..Anyways STN is effectively curfewed before 6am & also after 11pm for departures & midnight for arrivals,with any availability already allocated..Where else pray is an effective planned for doubling of pax traffic coming from without an explosion (your word) of based aircraft too...Again I would think LGW is your model...So yes there will be room for similar Jet2 ops in the future...

Thanks for input guys, just as I thought, for now no big expansion but that could all change if MAG get their way.

Don't think it's so much that... MT only have a fairly short programme over the school summer holiday period. TOM were operating long-haul year round, to CUN at least anyway.

TOM's long-haul from STN is certainly not unpopular and fares are no lower than anyone else... I've no question over the profitability of STN long-haul for them. I think it's more a case it's impacted too much on their LGW operation which will always be the jewel in the crown for them.

Stansted is never going to be a long haul Hub.
However I can't understabd why hugely over subscribed routes couldnt work.
Have you tried getting a seat to Las Vegas or Orlando recently?

I think the Tui pull out is more to do with rationalisation of the 6/7 airlines the group ran and acre-aligning of priorities.

Longhaul seems to attract a lot of discussion here.

Why do people feel the airport needs it? It's not going to be far from basically full with shorthaul, and in a few years time withdrawing the plans for a second runway will start to look to have been very silly!

Is that not enough?

All to do with prestige and little else plus it looks good on the flight information screens.

I agree that I can't see it becoming a major longhaul hub, however two years ago I would have laughed at the thought of a holiday company basing 10 aircraft at STN.

If you told me 3 years ago that BA would have a network of routes from STN (even though it's City Flyer/Niche market) I'd also have laughed at your suggestion.

Stranger things have and do happen.

Jet 2 - Key summer 2018 programme information:

London Stansted

33 destinations including 8 new summer hotspots: Bodrum, Costa de Almeria, Halkidiki, Kefalonia and Verona (already announced) and Malta, Naples and Nice (announced today).
280 weekly flights and more than 1.4 million seats available, a 60% growth on Summer 17
Addition of three aircraft meaning ten aircraft operating from London Stansted Airport

Long haul a/c tend to be bigger, so more money per runway/gate slot?

More good news...STN went thru the 25M pax in a rolling 12months on 27.7...MAG now expecting to 26.5M by the end of the financial year!...Impressive numbers & achievement.