No I'm not, I posed it as a reasonable question on the basis of the previous route application and not having seen the press release. If you read my second post you would also see LTN is not my preference for such a service. I now take it from your inability to comprehend basic text not once but twice you're either a troll or an idiot.

Honestly! I am actually laughing.

Let's move on shall we.

Nice to note the Titan Airways A318 now in service...has operated from & to STN on a v recent flight...

According to STN website car parking booking landing page there is zero availability of any parking at short, mid or long stay this weekend. Most meet & greet services in same situation with notable exception of extortionate prices for those utterly desparate to leave your car keys with valet staff. Nuts to think the car parks are rammed to full capacity this weekend.

With the railway closed between Peterborough and Ely I suspect there not be trains from Cambridge, so there may be some who could have come by train who are forced into bringing their car?

Every time I read that STN pax numbers are up by x or y %, it gives me yet another reason to avoid using it. I know there are expansion plans, but the place is bursting at the seams already, apart from the shopping mall of course. Much better to have a chance to buy perfume than some seats.
The car park debacle is another symptom of unmanaged expansion. I will continue to drive another 2 hours to LGW in order to avoid STN.

Yep, I can't say I disagree with you. I rarely use STN but when I do I'm finding the whole passenger experience is sliding into the gutter.

Airport security queues are ridiculously long. Now more and more are choosing to buy fast track security but now even that is getting jammed up too.

Then that bloody zig zag Ikeaesque aisle excusion through duty free is littered with passengers attempting rat runs to the left and right through concessionaire display areas to avoid the passengers who insist on crawling through the duty free 5 persons abreast and blocking up the place.

Though good selection of restaurants and coffee / sandwich places before the next squeeze on the expedition hike to the gates, with escalators and travelators out of service.

The lack of short,mid, long stay capacity is the icing on the cake.

I'll be avoiding using STN for a few years until they deliver better passenger experience - can do without the hassle.

The current design flaw with departures is that when you exit security the layout and presence of the massive departure screen mostly saying 'wait in lounge' gives the impression that IS the lounge. And indeed you do see people in that tiny area just waiting around. It's not immediately clear you're supposed to move on.

Yes, I noticed that. Just where the toilets are to the left and the duty free dead ahead, the big departures display screen above has hundreds stopping to hang around in that immediate area blocking up the corridor behind coming from security. The place just doesn't flow at all. It's jammed up all over the airport.

Not now
 

The screens you are referring to have been changed to generic " Welcome to Stansted have a happy day and spend lots of money " for several weeks now, for the very reasons mentioned. In addition they want to put another WHS in at that spot.

Where on earth will they put it? Although I am not surprised that WHS get yet another airport spot. They seem to be the default UK airport fall back. Can't find anyone else silly enough to pay rent space in the terminal? Well WHS will sort that out!

I was through STN about 6 weeks ago. I experienced the exact same problems noted by others. That area before the duty free store is a bottleneck and one they seem to have made intentionally for reasons unknown. Surely they want to encourage people to get out and about the terminal, at least to the main holding pen area. Why did they even think it was good commercial sense to put a screen there when they know that people in airports immediately lose all intelligent thought and will just stand and gawk at a giant screen awaiting further instructions? That screen has probably lost them millions in missed sales when people wander away and realise, perhaps too late, they have missed out on a huge shopping mall!

I used STN for the first time in many years just a couple of weeks ago. It is now truly awful...what used to be a spacious and airy terminal has been transformed into a hot and overcrowded shopping centre. I know that's the way airports in general are going, but it has been totally overdone at STN. And it feels like you're following a never ending "yellow brick road". I was relieved to get out of the main terminal and into the satellite for some peace and space.

It has really put me off using STN again...

That's exactly what I said to my partner the last time I used Stansted referring in the same way as you had as in being like 'the never ending yellow brick road'!

Not sure if it's known about, but Wow air starting daily flights from 25th April.

They've added some real left field US destinations too. Cincinnati, Cleveland and St. Louis.

Yes more good news with Wow commencing daily ops to Reykjavik next April as stated above..Hopefully should be able to pull many connecting pax to their expanding list of US destinations from the large STN catchment & North & East London...Might entail using a A330 ultimately.........With more positive news Jet2 announce creation of a further 170 jobs for STN in 2018...

I would suggest these flights will be of greater interest to Americans visiting here than Brits going over there, although NYC and Toronto will make things interesting with Primera. They are late arrivals and departures into the Us/Canada and form a new bank of flights out of Keflavik.

I actually thought it was only a matter of time before WOW or Icelandair turned up at STN, and I suspected something might be going on this morning when the airport tweeted about the USA. It's also pretty good having daily flights to Iceland again and the prices seem competitive, although once again EZY are being squeezed.

Yes....as suggested only a matter of time before one or the other arrived...in fact of course it is Wow`s second coming as previously they were operating to STN virtually at their formation & then departed to LGW...this time it is far more interesting with the US connections & availability & this I would suggest is the potentially bigger interest than a daily to KEF for London....Icelandair were rumoured some time back to be commencing STN but that too arrived @ LGW in the end...now it perhaps is North & East London`s time.....BTW ICE Cargo operating a B75F several days a week to KEF from STN but of course that doesn't count in this discussion..

I don't think WOW have ever flown to STN but stand to be corrected. Iceland Express flew from STN for years before joining the exodus to LGW at the end of the decade. They did return briefly for a short season with a couple of flights a week at poor times that unsurprisingly weren't well supported. Officially WOW bought Iceland Express, but the relationship was a bit murky and in reality they just superseded their predecessor with a very similar route network.

If they can get more slots at LGW, don't be surprised if this disappears down south of the Thames as well.

Looking at articles from around the time, seems they at least announced STN around 2012 ish IIRC

Pabely.....Nah probably just a bit of wishful thinking on your behalf....I think it`s the whole point init that they are now in a North London airport with virtually no US coverage & a hence a totally new market for their connective model & also aware of Primera`s plans/ambition...With no majors could be a slice of market for the taking.
AirportPlanner..yes Wow flew to STN in 2012 on start up & as you say just before they acquired Iceland Express....the fleet was a couple of LY- A320`s & I remember titles on one @ least as Wow Force One & the other may have been...Two..Then the LGW move...

On this occasion I doubt it - they already have LGW flights around that time anyway.

It's probably more to do with Pabely's location that his comment about WOW only at STN because no available slots at LGW don't think he would be saying the same if the route news was for LTN :rolleyes:

Good news
 

Nice to see news of WOW returning. I remember WOW Force One on their launch before transfer to LGW. As for their US destinations, interesting esp St Louis as that used to be a TWA fortress hub its a shadow of its former self now though.

Cobalt - read yesterday they are starting LGW but are keeping STN but slightly reduced frequency. Via a tweet and fb

WOW Airlines
 

Steady on boys, if did not offer my Location, would you say the same?

I did a little research and there is very little about the new route published out to the media, the new US flights announcement by WOW are not linked at all to STN and using their booking engine from US, it directs you to LGW, not STN by default.
It is only the Stansted media machine which as done that direct link, not WOW, that is their job. I remember a similar thing done by LTN Media about El AL and connections to Far East but the airline themselves have never plugged.
STN Media Quote "including Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami, San Francisco and Montreal" None of these appear in the WOW Booking engine so I assume they left long before the STN arrival even departed UK!
The WOW CEO Quotes "It’s a big day for WOW air as we launch flights from Stansted, our second London airport, plus services to these four new US Midwest destinations." You do appear to be able to catch those same day though but I think he was happy making two separate announcements the same day.

As for the flight timing, early morning slots anywhere in London area (to complement their existing London schedules) are a premium, if they could get them at STN or LGW I'm sure they would jump at them.

Anyhow, I wish them luck and won't bother to comment again on this thread on what is a reality in the London market.

Pabely.....Nah....my comment was phrased differently to the second poster but of course he was pretty much spot on...You are having a bit of a larf to be honest comparing ELY with the WOW modus & connectivity...it`s a whole different ball game & model....WOW are creating a second bank & wave of arrivals/departures @ KEF later in the day which will also contain their 4 new US destinations announced yesterday,namely Cleveland, Cincinnati, Detroit & St Louis which are available from STN...It is thought they may well rejig the original bank too at a later stage...Rest assured some of the market in the US Midwest does appear already to be aware of a new London connection for them...So good news for them,good news for London & good news for STN...

at he risk of this becoming a KEF thread, I don't think WOW had an option. they fill the airport in the first and second waves and operate slightly ahead of the Icelandair first and second wave which also fill the airport. Neither can invade the others space so a new bank is the only option.

Yes absolutely...& just explaining the STN service is included in the newer/2nd bank..& yes created because KEF is under capacity constraint in the terminal with ICE using a similar model..WOW are said to considering Asian destinations in a future phase & they of course could be much later allowing for traditional Far Eastern departure timings.....but as you say now nearly running a KEF thread...

Eurowings
 

MUC increases to 12x weekly eff 25th March 2018 and SZG to continue year round with 4x weekly into the summer.

Gives quite an impressive schedule with up to nine departures a day with as many as six aircraft all in at similar times between around 19:00 and 20:30 - starting to look a bit like the former AB operation back in the day

Even now some evening you see 4 Eurowings (with the occasional Germanwings) lined up in the Aplha apron. Pier 1 now has a nice mix of liveries throughout the day.

I was told today that WOW are moving their Gatwick operation to Stansted by next summer as well as opening the new route from the Essex airport? Came from a reliable source, but I do doubt if it is true?

Would make a whole lot of sense for them would it not.....The LGW connects with the first bank of US departures from KEF & STN the second so therefore a move would give them complete coverage of their US destinations from one London airport ideally suited for North & East London & the Cambridge corridor at least & also from one that does not have US connections at present, it also could help them counter a hopeful Primera build up...or help to spark off it....Could be good pickings for the model if presented well....

Contradiction in terms surely?

I would have suggested double daily from both LGW and STN would be more likely than a transfer from LGW. While STN has its own underserved market as has been pointed out I can't see why WOW would give up an existing apparently successful operation to service it. Also, they near enough have three daily flights across the two airports as it is.

Fair point from AirportPlanner1 re LGW & would be another possible scenario...but maybe other factors at work too...competition with even more NAX long haul planned from LGW....& perhaps a/c availability for WOW certainly in the short term with their own rapid expansion plans...Certain tho developments will be interesting.....

Thomas Cook now added Enfidha from STN. 1 x weekly, wed from 2nd May

Well that was quick. Are we to assume early sales have been very strong from other airports?

Lost all credibility when they made the following statement and missed out London City:rolleyes: