I suppose you could argue that the air fare includes the airport handling fee (albeit indirectly). However, as you say, it is unlikely to be argued in court. Pity!

Good to know that apologies have been issued for any 'inconvenience caused '. Not sure if that helps in the scheme of things.

Please we all work or have worked and some on here just dream of working in this industry therefore we should all know that these things happen and will always happen at some airport somewhere in the world the type of business that a airport airline or even just the massive complex technical side of the industry means one day something will fail it's the joys of travel I'm not saying it's not inconvenient just inevitably just one day of moving thousands of people through a thin gap in the infrastructure went wrong that's all

You are so right, and the army of Twitter and Facebook warriors need to remember that throughout their lives sh!t happens, and when it does, generally, as we always have done, you have to endure it, pick yourself up, dust yourself down - and carry on.

I think we can all agree that these things happen. However, there seems to have been a distinct lack of management skills - one person fainting, no information being given, no queue control. Looks like there is a distinct lack of crisis control.

Wowzz unless you were there I don't think you are qualified to comment
I don't think you have thought about what you are saying
At that time of the day and from the pictures all over social media it's easy to see nothing could have been done to sort the situation out any quicker and if you think about it 400 passengers is a very small amount of people if you consider how many flights were departing at that time of the day just how would you start managing that amount of people into any sort of a micro queue and regarding a passenger fainting just how could this have been prevented
We all agree it was a bad morning at the airport but this sort of things happen all the time all over the world I'm sure the airlines and airport worked together as best they could to get people to where they needed to be as quickly as possible yes people were unhappy but this is life things happen we deal with it and move on.

I can't believe that '**** happens' is an acceptable or appropriate response and I doubt very much anyone directly affected would take that view whether or not they use social media.

If a flight is cancelled for good reason, that's one thing. But the airline is required to either refund the ticket or make alternative provision for its customers including consequential costs such as hotel accommodation.

It's a pretty poor attitude if a multi-billion pound industry wrings its hands and takes a 'Not my problem, guv' stance.

Couple of Eurowings/Germanwings increases now on sale at weekends over the pre-christmas period to Cologne, Hanover and Stuttgart.

Also Hanover increases from 6x to 9x weekly on a permanent basis from 01 NOV 2017.

Pick the parts you want to read !
**** dose happen but I also said the airport worked hard with the airlines to sort the situation for the people involved not once has anyone wrote the airport or airlines said nothing I can do go away it sounds to me your making up your own story I had family traveling to Ireland they missed the flight which was held 15 mins so the airline waited as long as possible they were re booked FREE of charge on to the next flight so I guess all that could have been done was done and yes I stand by my statement **** does happen this was a technical issue not a deliberate act to make people miss flights

Anyways Anyways........After a month or two of flat lining Stansted announces it`s busiest ever April for 2.177M = +11%.....Yes Easter helping with the totals a given...Moving ever closer to the magic 25M P.A. airport league....Nice one MAG...

I don't get it. Airlines are obliged under EU law to compensate pax for severely delayed or cancelled flights due to their cock-up. Airports achieve the same result of pax missing flights due to their cock-up and get off scot free. The end result is great loss to the pax. One has to pay the other doesn't. Doesn't seem right to me. Even if the airlines operate with sympathy the next available flight might be days away and useless. It needs sorting.

From Airlineroute (twitter)
 

Hainan Airlines has filed Beijing - Stockholm - Prague - Beijing A330 svc on 12JUL17, Beijing - Prague - London Stansted - Beijing 25JUL17

daz - are these 2 flights from Hainan simply special charters or are tickets intended for sale to the public ? The only thing I could find on Prague-Stansted was a one way fare in economy for £1,300 on a flight lasting 2 hours - clearly not intended to be purchased by the general public

To be honest I can't find any info on this what so ever you have found much more than I can so I guess a one off but for what reason I don't know

Kuwait Airways
 

First time poster so please be kind.

Was wondering the reason why Kuwait Airways decided not to swap SNN for STN. This is because I work in the terminal building daily and saw on two occasions Kuwait Airways engineers being taken through the staff security point into departures.

Jet2 look to be adding shopping trips to New York from Stansted! Three departures in November and 1 in December...

The basis of the story is:

Kuwait use SNN as a security stop over as the US isn't allowing it to fly direct.

SNN then proposed a downgrade of their fire cover which meant the KU B77W couldn't use SNN. STN/MAN were looked at as a replacement.

STN initially won out, but then STN bosses realised their transit lounge wasn't up to the job for the flight, so, a switch back to MAN was proposed.

It then transpires that a deal had been done with SNN to keep the fire cover for the B77W, so, the flight is staying there.

Jet2.com
 

The New York trips also appear to be on their A330 aircraft and not the 757 :D

Titan B767.

99% sure it will be their A330 (well AirTanker's!). 'WD is configured in Y265, and Jet2 are marketing it as their A330 with Y327.

It's now June and Stansted should be performing at something close to the expected peak summer level. Furthermore, flights in the July/August peak should by now have relatively few seats left to be sold

Ryanair review route performance, and the weakest performers with no obvious prospect of significant improvement get dropped. Ryanair's Stansted routes are no exception - following the end of summer 2016, routes from Stansted to Kos and Parma no longer operate, and Oslo-Rygge were dropped from the network completely in favour of Oslo-Gardemoen. Further details can be found at
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post9405693

Osijek has already gone, and I'm trying to think about what else might not be around for summer 2018. Assuming there is no rescuer on the horizon, I'm guessing Ryanair may end up deploying a lot more capacity at short notice to German and/or Italian bases - possibly in large enough numbers that they may find themselves low on airframes and needing to cannibalise some existing mediocre performing routes
Would anyone care to suggest what Stansted routes Ryanair might drop at the end of October 2017 ?

Impossible to say, if any go at all. Three routes dropped in two years must be the lowest since the turn of the millennium. Some may swap airports as with Oslo, but that's not really the same thing.

If you consider the direction of the company there are still lots of provincial French destinations and minor cities that on paper would be vulnerable. Based on yield, LUX constantly seems to be available for £20 return which may indicate poor performance. But ultimately financial support and incentives will win out, a route averaging 140 pax with low fares could stay whereas another that is constantly full could go.

Jet2.com
 

New route to Lyon LYS starting 23 December 2017, 2x weekly

wonder how this will affect the EZY & BE flights to LYON from SEN

It's a winter seasonal route so probably not that significantly.

AtlasGlobal
 

Just looked at the April 2017 CAA stats for Stansted to Istanbul-Ataturk where there were 9,311 scheduled pax.

That means AtlasGlobal's daily flight, assuming an A320 as it usually is (it varies sometimes between A319s and A321s), would have an average LF of a very respectful 94.6%.

Compared to 6,171 pax in April 2016 when they operated from LTN, it would seem their move back to STN has been a successful one to say the least.

I know there's a potential Easter effect but Turkey of course isn't without it's problems at the moment and surely the change of airport cannot be the sole explanation for such an increase. Anyone got any other explanations?

The only other thing I can think of is that they must have seen a big increase in onward connectivity through Istanbul.

Historically there's always been a lot of Ercan - bound traffic from STN

Just as LTN is well placed for Israel, STN was always favoured by the Turkish community. Atlas were actually at STN before they went to LTN.

Speaking of Israel. The Arkia TLV flights have departed with a 90+% load factor. The airline is also considering increasing it to a all year service.

Another goodly increase in figures for May`17....Pax +7% for 2.3M & the busiest ever May.... Cargo also + 11% for 23,000 tonnes....

B737 MAX 9
 

BOE901 is on route to STN from YYR on route to the Paris air show

MAG/STN has launched a scoping report to prepare a planning application later this year to go to 44.5M pax PA coupled with 285,000 movements PA.....inc 6 more a/c stands & 2 more taxiway links for the R/W:D

44.5m pax sounds like a big number. Are MAG expecting to get planning permission for this, or is it just an opening gambit in a negotiation process with the expectation that the local council will be thimking about a smaller number or other concessions ?

Yes it is a big number....& as per the wording it is a "scoping" report to encompass all views & comments ready for a formal planning application late this year...Not so sure it is an opening gambit as MAG have made no secret of the fact they will go for max use of the existing R/W...which in numbers is slightly more than LGW are achieving...Sweat the assets or what!....MAG have stated previously there is a trigger number which will then involve asking for a 2nd R/W...STN has planning permission already for 35M & 274K ATM`s...& at present that is the cap...the difference between this & the scoping report is what MAG will now be asking for,hence I guess the limited extra infrastructure asked for this time in the form of 6 more stands as it will be provided to a degree in the drive firstly toward 35M..

The B737 MAX9 mentioned previously is visiting RYR @ STN before going on to the Paris Airshow....

Underperforming routes
 

Ryanair is by far the dominant carrier at Stansted and (like any other airline) reviews on a periodic basis the performance of routes and cuts those which are deemed to be poor performers. Because demand for air transport in Europe is much higher than winter, the most obvious time to pick out routes from STN that Ryanair are cutting is around early September, when Ryanair start publicising their schedule for the following summer.

Anyone got any ideas for Ryanair routes from STN that might not be around for summer 2018 ? Last year these were Kos and Parma, as well as Oslo-Rygge which was cut from the network in its entirety

More details of what was cut in previous years can be found at:
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post9405693

As an update, I've noticed that fares for Stansted-Lorient are looking pretty low. A oneway two days ahead costs £30 from STN (including APD !) with some fares from Lorient at £5

Perhaps one of the routes that might not last beyond October ? Or is there lots of marketing support involved ?

No surprise that no new EZY routes announced.

Although, slight increase on AMS. Increased to 4 daily every day apart from SAT from December.

Frankly it's a result there aren't any cuts and the number of airframes remains the same

Pax figures for June + 7.9% for 2.362M....Cargo not too shabby either + 10% for 22,117 tonnes in the month...Will be going thru the 25M pax per year & entering the big league this month....An excellent result....