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whitelighter 12th Jul 2017 10:31


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 9828271)
Pax figures for June + 7.9% for 2.362M....Cargo not too shabby either + 10% for 22,117 tonnes in the month...Will be going thru the 25M pax per year & entering the big league this month....An excellent result....

They need the new terminal urgently. The existing one can't cope with current volume, already inbounds are restricted to ease the pressure on the arrivals side.

Makes you wonder how even more pax will be coped with without destroying completely customer tolerance.

wowzz 13th Jul 2017 07:50


Originally Posted by whitelighter (Post 9828307)
They need the new terminal urgently. The existing one can't cope with current volume, already inbounds are restricted to ease the pressure on the arrivals side.

Makes you wonder how even more pax will be coped with without destroying completely customer tolerance.

The new terminal in itself will not help improve matters, unless the number of Border Control personnel is increased as well. Passenger numbers continue to increase, but this doesn't seem to be reflected by a commensurate ability to process the extra pax, hence the horrendous logjam in the arrivals hall.

azzbo 13th Jul 2017 12:06

The last 3 times I have arrived (Jan, Mar and last Monday) have been very quick to get through immigration, took about 5 mins on Monday early afternoon when many holiday flights were returning. Much better than the last 2 years where I have queued for closer to 20-30.

_aax1 13th Jul 2017 13:21

The main issues are overcrowding in the departure lounge, terminal road access during the morning peak and check-in space, the islands aren't fit for purpose anymore.

Construction on the shoreline check-in starts in September where they will knock down Joe's/M&S to Costa to put more check-in desks in time for next summer. Then Zone A will be removed and so on. So will look similar to Luton when finished. Once the new arrivals building is complete a second security will be built where the current international arivals is.

Charlie Cornish quoted recently saying he had expected more long-haul airlines and routes by now however he believes brexit has hampered these plans as the falling pound for outbound tourism and business uncertainty for inbound traffic. I expect if Jet2's EWR shopping flights are successful it might encourage scheduled carriers to service NYC. Although I do wonder what long haul airlines would come to STN?

wowzz 13th Jul 2017 13:56

''The main issues are overcrowding in the departure lounge''
Which wouldn't have been a problem if they hadn't put in an effing big shopping mall right after security.

LGS6753 13th Jul 2017 18:40


Although I do wonder what long haul airlines would come to STN?
The only ones will be those awaiting Gatwick slots, and in turn Heathrow slots.

STN406 14th Jul 2017 10:47


Originally Posted by _aax1 (Post 9829568)
Construction on the shoreline check-in starts in September where they will knock down Joe's/M&S to Costa to put more check-in desks in time for next summer. Then Zone A will be removed and so on. So will look similar to Luton when finished. Once the new arrivals building is complete a second security will be built where the current international arivals is.

Do not wish to call anyone a liar, but can you support this. I work within the terminal building and I have heard the current shops/restaurants within Zone A/International arrivals are staying as they are until the new arrivals building is operational.
And frankly landside has very minimal in the way of shops and restaurants as it is I can not see MAG taking down nearly all of those units.

_aax1 14th Jul 2017 12:25

This is what has been discussed with senior leadership team in a meeting with airlines and 3rd parties. September was the date set to start the work. I'm not going to post the documents on here so you will have to just wait and see.

MAG I'm sure would of rather waited for the new arrivals building but they're aren't enough check-in desks anymore and the airport will struggle this summer in regards to that. STN is 5 years ahead of their operational planning in terms of pax figures. They would not be able to handle a new reasonable sized airline with the current landslide facilities, if their flight time wanted to be from 6am to 2pm

STN Ramp Rat 14th Jul 2017 21:24

I have been flying a lot from Stansted recently. I have to say that they have security well under control in the morning and I generally get through within about 15 minutes of arriving in the terminal.

The terminal drop off however is a different matter. I believe they have been looking at different options to try to sort the issue out but the taxi drivers tell me traffic is backed up to the A120 junction from about 04:30 to 07:00 the airport are apparently looking for any good ideas to resolve it so if you have one please let them know.

01475 14th Jul 2017 23:30


Originally Posted by STN Ramp Rat (Post 9831057)
the airport are apparently looking for any good ideas to resolve it so if you have one please let them know.

Stop charging for drop offs so people don't have to waste time fiddling around at the barriers as this is what has caused the problem (both here and in Glasgow too). Oh. They didn't mean that?

STN Ramp Rat 15th Jul 2017 09:40

that is an issue but its not THE issue that is causing the queues. People stop at the start of the drop off causing queues, they blocked off the start so people are forced further along and they stop there causing queues. I believe the real issue is that the area is totally over capacity in the morning and the only way to fix that is to encourage less people to drive to the airport, which is easier said than done.

Cuillin Hills 15th Jul 2017 09:53

You can get 30 minutes in the adjacent Short Term for not much more than the 10 minutes at the shambolic, timed, rapidly increasing in price drop-off. :ok:

southside bobby 16th Jul 2017 06:50

Towards another level....I believe there is a plan to put in place "mezzanine" areas & seating in certain localities within the terminal....to be constructed off site & moved in sections to the terminal...idea was for September onward...... Onward & upward then..SS

racedo 16th Jul 2017 12:16


Originally Posted by STN Ramp Rat (Post 9831057)
The terminal drop off however is a different matter. I believe they have been looking at different options to try to sort the issue out but the taxi drivers tell me traffic is backed up to the A120 junction from about 04:30 to 07:00 the airport are apparently looking for any good ideas to resolve it so if you have one please let them know.

Separate Junction further along A120 with dedicated automatic shuttle that just walk onboard and takes direct to terminal. Collection point as well that is separate but part of facility. Removes people and traffic away from Terminal.

Mind you could do that at Midstay BUT issue would be that needs to a dedicated line direct to the Terminal not one where get in bus then come out and sit in backed up traffic.

EssexMan61 17th Jul 2017 13:21

Hi - STN fans. I have just logged on to - what I assume to be - the official Stansted Airport website to have a look at current Arrivals / Departures in real-time. But everything is just showing as "Scheduled" - with no real-time info. When I click on the "More Info" button for a particular flight it wants my e-mail address!! Eh??? Is this a temporary glitch or normal behaviour for the website please?

nt639 17th Jul 2017 13:35


Originally Posted by EssexMan61 (Post 9833481)
Hi - STN fans. I have just logged on to - what I assume to be - the official Stansted Airport website to have a look at current Arrivals / Departures in real-time. But everything is just showing as "Scheduled" - with no real-time info. When I click on the "More Info" button for a particular flight it wants my e-mail address!! Eh??? Is this a temporary glitch or normal behaviour for the website please?

Looks like a glitch as the App on my iPad has no flights showing either in departures or arrivals

lotus1 17th Jul 2017 13:41

Should be soon busy quite a few diverts bound from gatwick due to air Canada rouge blowing tyres

southside bobby 17th Jul 2017 18:56

Ah well...as the "other" airports are at it......@ least 3 LGW divs this PM...B789 NAX... B753 TCX & A321 TCX/SmartLynx...

whitelighter 17th Jul 2017 22:07

8 narrow body diverts plus a TOM789 and TCX753

southside bobby 18th Jul 2017 07:19

EssexMan61.....Your last post concerning the STN Arrivals/Departures "live" board has mysteriously disappeared!...You know the one....where you were sarcastic quoting MAG as "here to help"....& ending with your comment...oh dear,oh dear..oh dear...Well fear you not EssexMan all appears glitch free now & running smoothly,lots of arrivals & departures for you to peruse..The little digs from the SEN area concerning STN are ever apparent whenever there is trouble at`mill..namely at SEN..Good Luck...SS

G-APDK 18th Jul 2017 07:46

Any news on message 3978 (Hainan A330) visit on 25 July?

AerRyan 18th Jul 2017 13:15


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 9834243)
EssexMan61.....Your last post concerning the STN Arrivals/Departures "live" board has mysteriously disappeared!...You know the one....where you were sarcastic quoting MAG as "here to help"....& ending with your comment...oh dear,oh dear..oh dear...Well fear you not EssexMan all appears glitch free now & running smoothly,lots of arrivals & departures for you to peruse..The little digs from the SEN area concerning STN are ever apparent whenever there is trouble at`mill..namely at SEN..Good Luck...SS

Ouch! Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!

southside bobby 18th Jul 2017 15:50

AerRyan......Sorry...don`t really comprende your comment....nice of you to swing by tho!....

sat1 18th Jul 2017 16:59

RE-Any news on message 3978 (Hainan A330) visit on 25 July?


alledgedly carrying vip pax from swissports owners
anyone else know anything????

LAX_LHR 18th Jul 2017 17:04

The HU flight is carrying HNA staff after a European jolly.

They arrived into Stockholm on a Hainan B787 (the boss came direct to MAN), then over to the UK (not sure which airline), then back to Beijing on the Hainan A330 from Stansted (positions in from Prague IIRC).

_aax1 18th Jul 2017 22:15

Anyone know why Emirates flew to STN and back to DXB on flight EK2501?

GrahamK 19th Jul 2017 07:00


Originally Posted by _aax1 (Post 9835120)
Anyone know why Emirates flew to STN and back to DXB on flight EK2501?

Arsenal FC related perhaps?

Seljuk22 19th Jul 2017 16:52

Arsenal is currently playing in China. Must be something else
Emirates B777-200LR A6-EWH Operates London Stansted Charter.

eggc 20th Jul 2017 08:12

As per BHX thread...Primera Air to serve STN to EWR and BOS from 2018 with A321neo. Bookable now.

southside bobby 20th Jul 2017 08:16

Yes re Primera Air very good news...& yes indeed STN is on their website & in the dropdown me & u...

southside bobby 20th Jul 2017 08:31

Primera Air...& already on the Stansted Airport website...STN referred to as a base with daily to EWR commencing April`18 & BOS at 4 weekly commencing May`18..with a further transatlantic destination to be announced before end`17...Equipment will be A321NEO with 2 cabins....Bookings start today...

AirportPlanner1 20th Jul 2017 08:32

EWR appears to be daily, BOS 4x weekly. There is no mention of Toronto flights, the STN press release is just USA. I wonder if these may appear later on the days BOS doesn't operate, or even whether they'll add KEF. I can't believe the aircraft will do nothing.

ara01jbb 20th Jul 2017 08:58

Second time I've seen Primera Air mentioned online this week, the first wasn't so complimentary :D

NickBarnes 20th Jul 2017 09:26

Just booked EWR in April saves me travelling to the other London airports. Booked with the credit card mind you:ok:

Hoping they will add a Canada route, hopefully will be a success this time!

southside bobby 20th Jul 2017 09:30

ara01jbb.....Go on I`ll fall for it.....what makes you so happy with an horrendous delay please...

LGS6753 20th Jul 2017 11:00

Cheap transatlantic flights from Birmingham and Stansted to launch next summer

Artie Fufkin 20th Jul 2017 14:46

The Dane's are presumably optimistic a post-Brexit Open Skies is on the way?

pamann 20th Jul 2017 14:56

Primera Air
 
Must admit I didn't see this one coming.

When I read the news of BHX yesterday I did think that perhaps Stansted could be On the horizon. And so it is.

01475 20th Jul 2017 17:00

This is almost a bit sad for them. If they do happen to strike the winning transatlantic low cost formula, it is not going to be them that takes advantage of it.

pamann 20th Jul 2017 17:06

Wonder if we'll see AA return to defend their 'London' patch like last time. Let's hope not because that got no where last time.


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