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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 07:22
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Paris CDG

Eastern Airways secures rare slots at Paris CDG

EMA & SOU to move from ORY

CWL to cease “in the short-term”

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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 07:44
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The slots at CDG aren't rare - you can get them fairly readily if you apply, I believe! And "strong demand" on the Eastern services to Orly? Who are they trying to kid! It's been a joke of a service so far.
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Old 24th Feb 2024, 11:13
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Has the codeshare agreement with Air France ceased with the move to CDG?

You can currently book connecting travel on the AF website via ORY but nothing after the switchover.

I must admit on both occasions I connected in ORY it was quite a hassle. T3 and AF could only check you in as far as Paris going each way, which meant exiting through arrivals in ORY and having to go through security again (despite being on one AF itinerary) both times.

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Old 24th Feb 2024, 14:11
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I see Eastern have employed crew and ground staff at Teesside for the much talked about Teesside to Amsterdam flight for KLM. How long a contract have the new employees got. Are they out after the summer.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 22:55
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Eastern to Codeshare with Delta?


OST-2024- Exemption and Blanket Statement of Authorization - Intra-UK and Netherlands-UK Codesharing with Delta Air Lines

February 26, 2024


Eastern operates aircraft under wet lease to KLM/KLM Cityhopper under the KL* code. Eastern proposes to add Delta’s DL* designator code to these wet lease flights shortly after receipt of all government approvals. To engage in these operations with Delta, Eastern requests the following authorities from the Department:
  1. Exemption permitting Eastern to engage in scheduled foreign air transportation of persons, property and mail on flights operated by Eastern between (i) points in the UK; and (ii) points in the Netherlands and points in the UK, under a codeshare arrangement with any duly authorized US carrier; and
  2. Blanket statement of authorization permitting Eastern to display Delta’s two-letter designator code on flights operated by Eastern between (i) points in the UK; and (ii) points in the Netherlands and points in the UK.
Initial codeshare routes to be operated by Eastern on which the DL* code will be marketed include AMS-Teeside/Newcastle/Southampton/Norwich/Cardiff/Humberside/Glasgow/Manchester/Bristol.

Eastern was founded in 1997 and has operated continuously for 27 years. Its current fleet consists of four Embraer E-Jets (two each E190, and two each E170), four ATR72-600, two Embraer ERJ (one each ER4 and ER3) and eleven BAe Jetstream 41 aircraft.

Eastern’s growth plans are focused on wet lease, charter, and contracted services, and it expects to add in the next six months up to two E-Jets (E190 or E170) which will be used to further support its flights for KLM and other businesses.

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Old 2nd Mar 2024, 22:39
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Aurigny entered into a lease agreement with Eastern Airways for an AT76 from 11 Jan 24 for 10 months. However, this lease agreement has been terminated over the last few days.

Eastern are gaining an ever increasing VERY poor publicised track record, with a trail of lease failures behind them. British Airways, TAP, ITA (As pointed out by ‘Albert Hall’ on the ‘Aurigny’ thread), and now Aurigny.

It is well known that ATR operators worldwide are struggling with their fleets regarding spares, and thus keeping their aircraft in the air.

However, the continued adverse publicity Eastern are attracting must have some impact on their crewing issues regarding retention and recruitment.

NOBODY wants to see any airline fail, let alone one from home soil, yet the reputation Eastern have gained over an ever-increasing period of time cannot be missed by potential customers, whether it be within the industry, or from a passenger point of view.

If, and I emphasise ‘if’! Should FR24 be correct G-CMFI should have left Guernsey this morning for Southampton. However, it’s been put back until tomorrow morning (03rd) which plants the seed, have the same crew been conscripted to collect the aircraft from Guernsey and then operate Guernsey – Southampton – Orly – Southampton?

There are too many questions regarding Eastern’s ability to remain in the aviation industry that only professionals can explain!
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Old 2nd Mar 2024, 22:52
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Aurigny or Eastern has Cancelled the lease?

seems most work for summer is there own flights and for Air France/ KLM

wouldnt really be surpised if Air France / KLM buy Eastern over
if they need an UK AOC - what was going to happen with Flybe really I think
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Aurigny or Eastern has Cancelled the lease?
​​​​​​​Aurigny!
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Old 3rd Mar 2024, 00:15
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Originally Posted by jethro15
... a trail of lease failures behind them...., ITA (As pointed out by ‘Albert Hall’ on the ‘Aurigny’ thread),
I rather thought the ITA lease (on London City to Milan) was just until ITA got their own A220-100, which changed over when they arrived, as one might expect - and is the sort of lease work Eastern do.
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Old 3rd Mar 2024, 00:32
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Regarding post 285.

The article states that Eastern Airways was formed in 1997. I could have sworn that Eastern Airways was around long before then. After searching online it does indeed state that Eastern Airways was formed in 1997.

So my question is....was the Eastern Airways from the 70s and 80s related to the present day airline. I was always under the impression that it was the same airline hence my surprise when I read 1997.

Eastern Airways operated several Douglas DC-3s on cargo charters as well as contracts on behalf of the Royal Mail. They were seen throughout the UK as well as several European airports.

Eastern Airways Douglas DC-3 G-AMYJ at Dublin Airport in February 1981.


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Yes they did, when Humberside Airport opened in the '70s.
? Something to do with Humber Airways/Aviation Ltd and/or Lease Air Ltd Humberside ?

Humberside Airport and the original Eastern Airways.
On March 26, 1974, aviation history in the area was made as the first in the region's newly christened civil airport opened - only then it was called Kirmington Airport.
Less than a week later, Lindsey County Council was abolished and replaced with the Humberside authority, in the County of Humberside.
The airport was eventually renamed to reflect the historic change, and the County would become Lincolnshire.

Back in 1974, Kirmington was the South Bank base of Hull company Humber Airways Ltd, which had DC-3's and BN Islanders.
The first commercial scheduled flight from the 'new' airport was to Amsterdam in 1975 when a new passenger terminal opened, a destination regular services are still offered to and from today. At the time, the route was operated by an Air Anglia F27, with more routes flown by them to NWI, LHR, ABZ and JER.

In 1975 Eastern Airways took over Humber Airways and started scheduled services with Piper Navajos.
In 1978 three DC-3s were acquired.
In April 1981 the airline started scheduled flights with new Shorts 330s between Humberside and Heathrow, and to GLA and NWI.
In 1982 Genair merged with Humberside based Eastern Airways and Teesside based Casair in summer 1982.
On 13th July 1984 airline was placed into receivership and ceased all operations.

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Originally Posted by jethro15
Aurigny entered into a lease agreement with Eastern Airways for an AT76 from 11 Jan 24 for 10 months. However, this lease agreement has been terminated over the last few days.

Eastern are gaining an ever increasing VERY poor publicised track record, with a trail of lease failures behind them. British Airways, TAP, ITA (As pointed out by ‘Albert Hall’ on the ‘Aurigny’ thread), and now Aurigny.

It is well known that ATR operators worldwide are struggling with their fleets regarding spares, and thus keeping their aircraft in the air.

However, the continued adverse publicity Eastern are attracting must have some impact on their crewing issues regarding retention and recruitment.

NOBODY wants to see any airline fail, let alone one from home soil, yet the reputation Eastern have gained over an ever-increasing period of time cannot be missed by potential customers, whether it be within the industry, or from a passenger point of view.

If, and I emphasise ‘if’! Should FR24 be correct G-CMFI should have left Guernsey this morning for Southampton. However, it’s been put back until tomorrow morning (03rd) which plants the seed, have the same crew been conscripted to collect the aircraft from Guernsey and then operate Guernsey – Southampton – Orly – Southampton?

There are too many questions regarding Eastern’s ability to remain in the aviation industry that only professionals can explain!
Twas ever thus. Eastern have been a basket case airline for many years now. A one fantastic airline to work for which really held its head above the water many years ago has turned into an utter farce. I remember seeing the pile of CVs stacked high on the desk at HUY with more arriving everyday in the post. Now they have to employ recruiting agencies to garner any form of interest in working for the company. It’s a real shame it ended up this way. The company had some of the best crews I’ve ever worked with back in the day.

Of note, the Eastern Airways we see today started off in 1997 using a leased Metroliner, then in 1999 it bought the Air Kilroe AOC and thereafter started operating Jetstreams.
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Old 4th Mar 2024, 08:20
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Many thanks for your indepth response it was much appreciated. We can always rely on your wealth of knowledge.

Have a good day 😊
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Old 4th Mar 2024, 18:04
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Just costed two return seats with 23kgs each, NQY/LGW/NQY and it comes out about close to the fare LGW/YYZ/LGW plus there is no ability to cancel. ..... glad the route is subsidised as well.
So far I have driven to Gatwick from Truro twice this year and probably will again in September as the pricing strategy just doesn't work for me. I know of at least two other couples locally that have either taken a taxi or driven themselves for the same reason. Eastern, you are losing business here!
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Does the PSO funding in UK subsidise the cost to the passenger and if so is it a percentage of total fair or set amount per rotation. I believe I read that the Irish PSO flights to GWY SXL etc when they where pso routes had to operate even if no passengers to get the subsidy. Is this the case with Eastern?
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
Does the PSO funding in UK subsidise the cost to the passenger and if so is it a percentage of total fair or set amount per rotation. I believe I read that the Irish PSO flights to GWY SXL etc when they where pso routes had to operate even if no passengers to get the subsidy. Is this the case with Eastern?
As far as I understand it, and I'm more than happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, a PSO route(s) must operate even if no passengers are booked in order to get the subsidy - unless of course said flight has to be cancelled due to external factors, such as weather.

Performance, both in terms of the carrier itself and also passenger numbers, is closely monitored and then a decision is made by the awarding authority as to whether to renew the subsidy beyond whatever the initially agreed period was.
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Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG
Just costed two return seats with 23kgs each, NQY/LGW/NQY and it comes out about close to the fare LGW/YYZ/LGW plus there is no ability to cancel. ..... glad the route is subsidised as well.
So far I have driven to Gatwick from Truro twice this year and probably will again in September as the pricing strategy just doesn't work for me. I know of at least two other couples locally that have either taken a taxi or driven themselves for the same reason. Eastern, you are losing business here!


Defo worth considering the via Dublin option
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Old 6th Mar 2024, 09:37
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Cheers Simon. We have been going that way to YVR, works well, this time though BA are much cheaper premium out of LGW than Air Canada out of DUB plus I have some companion vouchers to use! Don't want to go off thread, I would use Eastern much more but firmly believe they have the pricing strategy slightly wrong. Basic fare seems to be £39.99 with no baggage (could that be £10 more!) then £79.99 with 15kgs and changeable at a fee. It then jumps to £199 with lounge and 23kgs of bags. I believe most travelling long haul would have 23kgs bags, so I would have to pay excess baggage at £60 return to get 16kgs of baggage allowance for two of us.
If Eastern increased the baggage allowance to 23 kgs on the £79.99 fare I would use them and I KNOW I am not alone in this thinking. If anyone from Eastern commercial reads this think about it please!!!
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EAstern probably need to sign some sort of code shares for this to work properly so that they can honour the onward carriers allowances for the customer.
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
EAstern probably need to sign some sort of code shares for this to work properly so that they can honour the onward carriers allowances for the customer.
How perfect that would be! Game changer to check bags at NQY and pick them up at wherever!!
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