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Old 12th Sep 2022, 07:15
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This with their experience and facilities available apron space and warehousing - Should have got a least one of the consolidators- didnt !
So we're playing 'coulda, woulda, shoulda' now

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Sheffield market didnít disappear- Peel made it so
Runway length a thousand feet shorter than LCY? Is there really a market for a runway that length for domestic and near european operations. Used by who?

Liverpool airport a small regional airport serving a city region as a business itís not a football team
they are the worst aviation business in the UK
But this point never gets answered - "We can argue the toss about the corporate practices of Peel, but the airport site and the areas around it have been transformed compared to what they were." How are you defining best and worst?
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I think during that period there was quite a serious crash, when an aircraft went into a neighbouring factory, possibly Lucas.
1965 I think? Viscount accident into Mothax factory. When I worked there all large aircraft banned from rw26 landing and used rw27. Also the B707 (Eli Lilly) would fuel stop at Shannon westbound normally.
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1965 I think? Viscount accident into Mothax factory. When I worked there all large aircraft banned from rw26 landing and used rw27. Also the B707 (Eli Lilly) would fuel stop at Shannon westbound normally.
Could well be, were there many fatalities ?
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Could well be, were there many fatalities ?
Let's have this right, shall we? I was unfortunate enough to see it happen. The two pilots were colleagues of mine, and I was waiting to meet them to go for a drink.
Two other members of staff, who were working late in the factory were also killed. The aircraft, G-AMOL, had been used to carry a backlog of cargo to the Isle of Man because there was a nationwide seaman's strike at the time. The aircraft was returning empty. If there was one piece of good fortune in all this, it was the fact that, because all the cargo was loaded and unloaded by hand, the STD from Speke was delayed, with a consequent delay in the IOM. The accident happened at a few minutes past six. Had the return flight been on time, the factory would have been full of staff. The factory, called Mothaks, produced mothballs, which at the time were made using naphthalene, and thus there were highly flammable goods on the premises.
As ever in these circumstances, numerous theories were put forward (nothing changes, does it?). The remains of the aircraft were taken to Farnborough, but no determinate cause was ever found:
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19650720-0 Note that the timings are GMT, not BST.

1965 I think? Viscount accident into Mothax factory. When I worked there all large aircraft banned from rw26 landing and used rw27. Also the B707 (Eli Lilly) would fuel stop at Shannon westbound normally.
That would have been difficult because runway 27 (the longer runway near the new terminal) was not opened until 1966, so there was no option in the interim but to continue to use 26, as it was known.
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Old 13th Sep 2022, 07:20
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Originally Posted by barry lloyd View Post
Let's have this right, shall we? I was unfortunate enough to see it happen. The two pilots were colleagues of mine, and I was waiting to meet them to go for a drink.
Two other members of staff, who were working late in the factory were also killed. The aircraft, G-AMOL, had been used to carry a backlog of cargo to the Isle of Man because there was a nationwide seaman's strike at the time. The aircraft was returning empty. If there was one piece of good fortune in all this, it was the fact that, because all the cargo was loaded and unloaded by hand, the STD from Speke was delayed, with a consequent delay in the IOM. The accident happened at a few minutes past six. Had the return flight been on time, the factory would have been full of staff. The factory, called Mothaks, produced mothballs, which at the time were made using naphthalene, and thus there were highly flammable goods on the premises.
As ever in these circumstances, numerous theories were put forward (nothing changes, does it?). The remains of the aircraft were taken to Farnborough, but no determinate cause was ever found:
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19650720-0 Note that the timings are GMT, not BST.



That would have been difficult because runway 27 (the longer runway near the new terminal) was not opened until 1966, so there was no option in the interim but to continue to use 26, as it was known.

yes now you day the factory was empty rings a bell, that was a stroke of luck on that account.
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Arrived in Frankfurt en route to Athens. I've now travelled on this new Lufthansa Liverpool to Frankfurt route 3 x returns and 2 singles. My experience is the service has developed well with flights more or less full. Most passengers are transferring, talked to some today going to Basel , Milan and Dubai. 6 rows of business class this morning. I would expect an increased frequency to be coming sometime soon.
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Arrived in Frankfurt en route to Athens. I've now travelled on this new Lufthansa Liverpool to Frankfurt route 3 x returns and 2 singles. My experience is the service has developed well with flights more or less full. Most passengers are transferring, talked to some today going to Basel , Milan and Dubai. 6 rows of business class this morning. I would expect an increased frequency to be coming sometime soon.
Greenfinch your cover is blown
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Greenfinch your cover is blown
what cover !! Boarding bye
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Play began operation today LPL - KEF with onwards US connections. A320 arrived to water canon welcome.
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What are the property developers playing at? They've never turn it into a business park at this rate!
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A business Park? In Liverpool? gets hat coat and disguise..................
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A business Park? In Liverpool? gets hat coat and disguise..................
Never miss an opportunity to have a knock, eh? Well, I suppose this is PPRuNe after all, so a cheap jibe where Liverpool is concerned is to be expected. Well, just for the record:
https://nicelocal.co.uk/liverpool/ma...business_park/
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Looks like LPL might get a little busier next May...

Liverpool has been chosen to host the first Eurovision Song Contest to be held in the UK for 25 years.

(...and probably MAN too)
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Looks like LPL might get a little busier next May...

Liverpool has been chosen to host the first Eurovision Song Contest to be held in the UK for 25 years.

(...and probably MAN too)
More like- MAN busier (and probably LPL too) !
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I expect Lufthansa to beef up their schedule, already rumoured.
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Old 8th Oct 2022, 07:28
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"Never miss an opportunity to have a knock, eh? "

Sorry - I thought the famous Scouser sense of humour could take a small hit......................... apologies
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The event is surely no busier than a football match in the city, with the majority of the audience being UK based. Logistics will surely be done by road, so I could only envisage a small increase in foreign scheduled traffic to MAN & LPL and perhaps a few GA at LPL movements on the day.
It's the regions' hotels who will be rubbing their hands.
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"Never miss an opportunity to have a knock, eh? "

Sorry - I thought the famous Scouser sense of humour could take a small hit......................... apologies
Na a certain few here and elsewhere severely lack humour sorry to say , and certainly not empathy
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Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky View Post
The event is surely no busier than a football match in the city, with the majority of the audience being UK based. Logistics will surely be done by road, so I could only envisage a small increase in foreign scheduled traffic to MAN & LPL and perhaps a few GA at LPL movements on the day.
It's the regions' hotels who will be rubbing their hands.
Much smaller than a Derby -The biggest venues have about 11000 capacity in the city . The festival lasts about a week however only three nights are of importance the two semis and the Saturday final.

Frankly itís a TV extravaganza in the main .

There are fringe activities that take place of a cultural nature , art stands, food halls that sort of thing and some will travel for those through probably just locals and UK residents with leave to remain; this lovely lady will almost certainly be there eurovision.by.kseniia ( from TikTok fame) waving both a Union Flag and Ukrainian flag she is Ukrainian and has lived here prior to the current war !

There are of course a shed load of TV and Radio jocks and their hangers on , however the broadcast is always by the national broadcaster ( thats the point of Eurovisiůn) and those will no doubt come from Salford Quays and BBC outside broadcast teams.

Itís a pageant of tat, glamour and dare I say camp and brilliant irony ( love it for the irony alone !)

We may see a visit from Orlena Zelenska and the Ukrainian Airbus 319 I suspect ( would be a nice touch)


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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"Never miss an opportunity to have a knock, eh? "

Sorry - I thought the famous Scouser sense of humour could take a small hit......................... apologies

But an uncalled for post frankly. How about ' well done or congratulations ' instead aye !!?
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