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Old 11th Dec 2020, 09:52
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Indeed I believe its now at least 5 pure cargo flights that MAN has turned away. To be fair enquiries to handle freight at MAN are actually taken by a cargo manager based at East Midlands. One only has to look at the email address on the MAG website .

Those enquiries are routinely offered EMA. When MAN was full re pax it was understandable, but not.

I suspect the shareholders who recently gave Manchester a substantial bale out will be apoplectic if they find business bound for the N West is being seemingly gifted to The Midlands.

Liverpool are a bit more sprightly when it comes to chasing business.
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 10:13
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At the time of the "bail out" it was made quite clear additional funding provided was for MAG...MAN/STN & EMA and not of course just "Manchester".
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I believe the recent cargo flights to Liverpool, have been transporting automotive equipment, so it does make sense that Liverpool is where they arrived.
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 11:33
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So turned down by the handler and not the airport authority itself?
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 12:27
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I 100% agree, likewise does it not make equal sense that "other imports" destined for companies across the N West which include Merseyside are not directed to another airport 100 miles away ?

I'm unsure whether the issue lies with the airport or the handler but either way there is no hiding place.

In terms of MAG the cargo manager is based at East Midlands, I doubt they are going to redirect business "BACK TO MANCHESTER".

Its preposterous that an airport that trumpets itself as gateway to the North and consistently puts forward the PR mantra "22m customers in a 2 hour catchment" is unable to handle pure cargo flights.

In terms of a handler not having the equipment that is not a cover story that MAG can hide behind. There has to be minimum levels of provision, if the handler cannot meet those requirements the terms of contract need to be reassessed.

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Old 11th Dec 2020, 12:38
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*82 miles away.

Are these flights only carrying cargo for the North West and are they being directed away (e.g. by Airport Authority) or forced away by lacking of handling options by 3rd party providers. There is a difference. As I understand it, no airport can prevent (legal) flights from arriving & departing, if those flights are taking place within operating hours and there are airport facilities (runway, taxiways, stands) available support that flight. Whether it can then be handled and fuel is different again.
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 12:55
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In terms of MAG the cargo manager is based at East Midlands, I doubt they are going to redirect business "BACK TO MANCHESTER".
Quite an insulting comment to the team involved. They'll be employed by the Manchester Airport Group, a concept that seems to be a struggle. I would imagine it is the policy of the group to run their airports in a complimentary rather than competitive manner and the team will handle requests accordingly.

Anyway, shouldn't we be going round and round this circle on the Machester thread?
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 13:10
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Agree, I think we should be saying well done to Liverpool for attracting some Cargo business tbh.
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Old 18th Dec 2020, 16:44
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EZY Shows no flight availability on the following for S21 -

Berlin
Paris
Pula
Venice
Bordeaux
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Old 18th Dec 2020, 23:05
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Looks like EZY is down to, at most, 6 based a/c for S21. In addition to these route cuts GVA is reduced to 2 x weekly, ZTH down to 1 x weekly.
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 07:17
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Airport has tweeted regarding yesterdays cargo ops.
Whilst schedule traffic at Liverpool remains limited owing to the current lockdown, today we will have handled freight flights to and from Leipzig, Karlsruhe, Bratislava, Rome, Antwerp, Stockholm, Prague and Nuremburg.

I know a new Titan A321F arrived yesterday , this is a new aircraft for them
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 07:52
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I see Ravenair are flying to Aberdeen again today, first noticed them sending a couple of P68s back in March.
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Old 11th Feb 2021, 11:02
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Wizz air are to begin Liverpool to Bourgas from 11 June 21 twice per week.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 12:33
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Wizz

Route re- starting by Wizz around about now are Varna , Bacau, lasi and Chisinau.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 13:07
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Ambitious...
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 13:19
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Some of there routes their have been running throughout.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 15:20
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I`d heard that Wizz have knocked Manchester on the head as a new base, if so I presume they are going to expand at Liverpool where they`ve been for ages.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 15:25
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I think the ambitious quote came from the destinations. How many UK nationals have ever heard of Iasi (romania) or Chisinau (Moldova).

That’s some truly one way demand, or at least very little UK national demand.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 16:41
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Varna and Bourgas are Black Sea destinations so possibly assessing the holiday market in Eastern Europe initially.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 17:48
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One way demand but the way things are the moment a weeks holiday in the Lada factory in Volgograd could be appealing lol 😆
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