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Old 18th May 2023, 07:52
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When you rebuild your airport you expect a bit of pain as did Heathrow and Gatwick.
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Old 18th May 2023, 09:36
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Great news about Jet2 opening a base...

Two UK airports getting new airline bases in less than a week!

I don't think easyJet will be running from Liverpool, while the airport might be playing second fiddle to easyJet's Manchester operation and you haven't seen any growth in recent years, that's the same at many UK bases for easyJet.

While the Luton base is much larger than Liverpool, it plays second fiddle to Gatwick, and Luton hasn't seen any easyJet growth in about 5-6 years. When new routes are announced at Luton, it usually comes at the expense of another route getting the axe or a frequency cut to an established route.

EasyJet are very shrewd and I think we have to face it, unfortunately Manchester and Gatwick can demand higher fares for routes and are more profitable for the airline. That being said, I am not in anyway saying easyJet are making a loss at Liverpool, and if they were they would have left years ago.
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Old 18th May 2023, 11:30
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I believe Easyjet will remain at Liverpool, the Jet2 announcement may hive them the kick up the backside they need at Liverpool to actually stop languishing.
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Old 19th May 2023, 10:37
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XLR facility at Liverpool is to grow.

https://www.businessairportinternati...et-centre.html
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T2...

Originally Posted by MANFAN
This is an expansion in the NW of England, what the hell do you me “Manchester has done this to themselves”?!
You obviously ain’t got a clue!

Are you getting confused with Terminal 1 or 3 in Manchester, because Terminal 2 is the newest and largest terminal, only to get bigger by 2025 with the refurbishment of the legacy Terminal 2.
T2 is an utter disgrace. You may be a fan, but you clearly don't use T2 regularly.
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Old 19th May 2023, 22:35
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Originally Posted by TheFiddler
T2 is an utter disgrace. You may be a fan, but you clearly don't use T2 regularly.
What makes it an utter disgrace?
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What makes it an utter disgrace?
Its not in Edge Hill and had the audacity to be built and funded in the support of Manchester council tax payers . Its a work in progress for heavens sake , and yes its a bloody long walk to the first pier (not unique try some of the T3 stands at Heathrow !)

There are a few here and in « tall towers » carrying simply prejudice without adding anything useful to the discord .

Caveat the MAG group continued work during COVID and hasn’t delivered a dividend whilst hemorrhaging cash -still investment and job creation for the NorthWest which is not to be sniffed at.

What has Peel delivered - a bloody Greggs !

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Old 20th May 2023, 17:48
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Pot Kettle !!
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Old 20th May 2023, 18:52
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Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10
Pot Kettle !!
Who predicted JET2 and Aer Lingus return as positives for Liverpool and indeed continues to recommend KLC return when slots become available

Equally through will critique the financial issues with Play because they are of concern !

What I am not is a bloody cheerleader as the world of business isn't always flag waving positivity !

And many people would have noted the irony (comedy) in the Greggs comment and simply moved on.

No doubt you read my posts a few days ago on another thread !

Why does the idea of discord upset your sensibilities prey tell !

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Old 20th May 2023, 19:11
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What's this rumour of BA launching LHR-LPL all about?
I saw on LJLA Twitter a few months back:


Something concrete or just BS?
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Originally Posted by laviation
What's this rumour of BA launching LHR-LPL all about?
I saw on LJLA Twitter a few months back:

https://twitter.com/LPL_Airport/stat...980215809?s=20

Something concrete or just BS?
The second !
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
Who predicted JET2 and Aer Lingus return as positives for Liverpool and indeed continues to recommend KLC return when slots become available

Equally through will critique the financial issues with Play because they are of concern !

What I am not is a bloody cheerleader as the world of business isn't always flag waving positivity !

And many people would have noted the irony (comedy) in the Greggs comment and simply moved on.

No doubt you read my posts a few days ago on another thread !
No, they do not interest me in the slightest.
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Old 20th May 2023, 19:17
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LHR-LPL would be nice, but the general catchment area isn't going to really need it. A better use of aircraft would be BA Euroflyer at MAN , or in BA's eyes, another London destination!!
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Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10
No, they do not interest me in the slightest.
I don’t believe you I know full well you read the Manchester thread but never mind . As usual you make yourself a pretty unpleasant person !
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Originally Posted by laviation
LHR-LPL would be nice, but the general catchment area isn't going to really need it. A better use of aircraft would be BA Euroflyer at MAN , or in BA's eyes, another London destination!!
BA ( IAG) really couldn’t give a flying fig about the regions evidence the collapse in numbers on the none shuttle down the road , and sometimes eye watering point to point fares !

That said the rail alternative with Avanti is piss poor and stupid expensive these days . At least Lime Street has an albeit slow competitor in London Northern Western .

And as Greenfinch regularly demonstrates alternative hub carriers are available these days; one that serves MORE onward global destinations at that, whilst Aer Lingus now serves many US cities via Dublin.

That said Aer Lingus seem to have a disturbing cancellation and substitution rate from what I have observed.

That can’t be good for public confidence

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Originally Posted by Rutan16
I don’t believe you I know full well you read the Manchester thread but never mind . As usual you make yourself a pretty unpleasant person !
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
BA ( IAG) really couldn’t give a flying fig about the regions evidence the collapse in numbers on the none shuttle down the road , and sometimes eye watering point to point fares !

That said the rail alternative with Avanti is piss poor and stupid expensive these days . At least Lime Street has an albeit slow competitor in London Northern Western .

And as Greenfinch regularly demonstrates alternative hub carriers are available these days; one that serves MORE onward global destinations at that, whilst Aer Lingus now serves many US cities via Dublin.

That said Aer Lingus seem to have a disturbing cancellation and substitution rate from what I have observed.

That can’t be good for public confidence
Think Loganair are the ones to launch an LHR connection, if ever.
Daily Embraer or ATR, perhaps on a W pattern, leaving about 06:30 and coming back for 14:00.

If BA ostensibly have half a brain, they would launch this route.
LPL already has DUB and FRA as connection hubs. KLM I expect to see at some point in the forseeable, they are the masters of UK connections
You also have MAN up the road, and if a good chunk of the pre-TCX failure US network is recovered, is a big player too.
It makes all the sense in the world to launch a LHR-LPL route, but that won't work in the eyes of Tory Airways!!
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Originally Posted by laviation
Think Loganair are the ones to launch an LHR connection, if ever.
Daily Embraer or ATR, perhaps on a W pattern, leaving about 06:30 and coming back for 14:00.

If BA ostensibly have half a brain, they would launch this route.
LPL already has DUB and FRA as connection hubs. KLM I expect to see at some point in the forseeable, they are the masters of UK connections
You also have MAN up the road, and if a good chunk of the pre-TCX failure US network is recovered, is a big player too.
It makes all the sense in the world to launch a LHR-LPL route, but that won't work in the eyes of Tory Airways!!

If there ever was a right time, it would be now , considering the Eurovision success.
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Eurovision has nothing to do with it, it was one off and probably will never happen again in our life time, KLM in my opinion won`t come back as the Dutch government
are set to make it much more difficult to get slots or operate new services from Amsterdam.
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Originally Posted by chaps1954
Eurovision has nothing to do with it, it was one off and probably will never happen again in our life time, KLM in my opinion won`t come back as the Dutch government
are set to make it much more difficult to get slots or operate new services from Amsterdam.

The interest by visitor will have grown from the event, its already one of the top UK cities for tourists to come to, this is expected to continue. Having said that id prefer Lufthansa to grow., i wouldnt discount KLM either. Easyjets offering is way under what it should be.
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