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Indeed I believe its now at least 5 pure cargo flights that MAN has turned away. To be fair enquiries to handle freight at MAN are actually taken by a cargo manager based at East Midlands. One only has to look at the email address on the MAG website .
Those enquiries are routinely offered EMA. When MAN was full re pax it was understandable, but not.
I suspect the shareholders who recently gave Manchester a substantial bale out will be apoplectic if they find business bound for the N West is being seemingly gifted to The Midlands.
Liverpool are a bit more sprightly when it comes to chasing business.
Indeed I believe its now at least 5 pure cargo flights that MAN has turned away. To be fair enquiries to handle freight at MAN are actually taken by a cargo manager based at East Midlands. One only has to look at the email address on the MAG website .
Those enquiries are routinely offered EMA. When MAN was full re pax it was understandable, but not.
I suspect the shareholders who recently gave Manchester a substantial bale out will be apoplectic if they find business bound for the N West is being seemingly gifted to The Midlands.
Liverpool are a bit more sprightly when it comes to chasing business.
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I 100% agree, likewise does it not make equal sense that "other imports" destined for companies across the N West which include Merseyside are not directed to another airport 100 miles away ?
I'm unsure whether the issue lies with the airport or the handler but either way there is no hiding place.
In terms of MAG the cargo manager is based at East Midlands, I doubt they are going to redirect business "BACK TO MANCHESTER".
Its preposterous that an airport that trumpets itself as gateway to the North and consistently puts forward the PR mantra "22m customers in a 2 hour catchment" is unable to handle pure cargo flights.
In terms of a handler not having the equipment that is not a cover story that MAG can hide behind. There has to be minimum levels of provision, if the handler cannot meet those requirements the terms of contract need to be reassessed.
I 100% agree, likewise does it not make equal sense that "other imports" destined for companies across the N West which include Merseyside are not directed to another airport 100 miles away ?
I'm unsure whether the issue lies with the airport or the handler but either way there is no hiding place.
In terms of MAG the cargo manager is based at East Midlands, I doubt they are going to redirect business "BACK TO MANCHESTER".
Its preposterous that an airport that trumpets itself as gateway to the North and consistently puts forward the PR mantra "22m customers in a 2 hour catchment" is unable to handle pure cargo flights.
In terms of a handler not having the equipment that is not a cover story that MAG can hide behind. There has to be minimum levels of provision, if the handler cannot meet those requirements the terms of contract need to be reassessed.
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*82 miles away.
Are these flights only carrying cargo for the North West and are they being directed away (e.g. by Airport Authority) or forced away by lacking of handling options by 3rd party providers. There is a difference. As I understand it, no airport can prevent (legal) flights from arriving & departing, if those flights are taking place within operating hours and there are airport facilities (runway, taxiways, stands) available support that flight. Whether it can then be handled and fuel is different again.
*82 miles away.
Are these flights only carrying cargo for the North West and are they being directed away (e.g. by Airport Authority) or forced away by lacking of handling options by 3rd party providers. There is a difference. As I understand it, no airport can prevent (legal) flights from arriving & departing, if those flights are taking place within operating hours and there are airport facilities (runway, taxiways, stands) available support that flight. Whether it can then be handled and fuel is different again.
In terms of MAG the cargo manager is based at East Midlands, I doubt they are going to redirect business "BACK TO MANCHESTER".
Anyway, shouldn't we be going round and round this circle on the Machester thread?

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Airport has tweeted regarding yesterdays cargo ops.
Whilst schedule traffic at Liverpool remains limited owing to the current lockdown, today we will have handled freight flights to and from Leipzig, Karlsruhe, Bratislava, Rome, Antwerp, Stockholm, Prague and Nuremburg.
I know a new Titan A321F arrived yesterday , this is a new aircraft for them
Whilst schedule traffic at Liverpool remains limited owing to the current lockdown, today we will have handled freight flights to and from Leipzig, Karlsruhe, Bratislava, Rome, Antwerp, Stockholm, Prague and Nuremburg.
I know a new Titan A321F arrived yesterday , this is a new aircraft for them
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I think the ambitious quote came from the destinations. How many UK nationals have ever heard of Iasi (romania) or Chisinau (Moldova).
That’s some truly one way demand, or at least very little UK national demand.
That’s some truly one way demand, or at least very little UK national demand.