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Old 14th Jul 2023, 18:23
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LCY to appeal against Newham council rejection
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Old 14th Jul 2023, 18:34
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The carbon argument is a bit flawed really. The majority of the fleet just go elsewhere to fly at the weekend, including Scotland, so the flights are already happening. One could make the argument by relocating back to LCY, those flights would be shorter and now better for the environment.
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Old 14th Jul 2023, 19:41
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Airports like LCY have selective memories. They agreed to limits being imposed so should stop complaining when it becomes inconvenient. Those limits were agreed to offer residents respite and were part of the original planning permission.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 08:26
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Airports like LCY have selective memories. They agreed to limits being imposed so should stop complaining when it becomes inconvenient. Those limits were agreed to offer residents respite and were part of the original planning permission.
Its surely a normal commercial ploy; get the airport up and running then push the boundaries.

Sort of reminds me of the charity that asks for £2 per month then badgers the donors for £3, the £5, then 10 etc etc.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 08:55
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To be fair, it's also how the world of planning works. Consent isn't granted in perpetuity and set as something which can never be changed.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 09:51
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Originally Posted by cavokblues
To be fair, it's also how the world of planning works. Consent isn't granted in perpetuity and set as something which can never be changed.
Agreed, also much has changed since the original consent. Very few of the original residents will still be around, everyone else has moved in with full knowledge there is an airport in the vicinity. If they haven’t done their due diligence and considered future risks it’s on them.

Mind you, people buy brand new houses on brand new estates and then try to object to more new houses where they’ve just moved into.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 10:39
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Very few of the original residents will still be around, everyone else has moved in with full knowledge there is an airport in the vicinity. If they haven’t done their due diligence and considered future risks it’s on them.
So they should assume the existing legal agreements will be reneged on rather than honoured, and more fool them if that happens?
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I don't agree it's on the residents for moving there but City are equally entitled to appeal it.

Newham council have concluded expansion would be contrary to their planning policies and would be harmful to the amenity of nearby residents. The onus is now on London City to demonstrate to the Planning Inspector that it not the case.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 11:11
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Question would be how on earth are they going to add 4m additional pax? That’s a crazy % increase and not sure it can be reasonably accommodated with such restrictive infrastructure

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Old 15th Jul 2023, 11:27
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A break down of where the 4,500 jobs would come from would also be interesting
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 12:26
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You count the actual jobs and multiply by about 20 to cover the "knock-on effects"

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Old 15th Jul 2023, 16:19
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So they should assume the existing legal agreements will be reneged on rather than honoured, and more fool them if that happens?
No but as a newcomer it would be prudent to risk assess whether at some point in the future existing circumstances may change.
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ITA Airways to change E190 operator for London City route

(Can't see the whole story as its behind a pay wall) However, this might be the news that Eastern Airways will be operating for ITA instead of German Airways (perhaps) !!!

ITA Airways to change E190 operator for London City route - ch-aviation
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 15:26
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Originally Posted by fjencl

ITA Airways to change E190 operator for London City route

(Can't see the whole story as its behind a pay wall) However, this might be the news that Eastern Airways will be operating for ITA instead of German Airways (perhaps) !!!

ITA Airways to change E190 operator for London City route - ch-aviation
Almost certainly, I only hope their timekeeping is better than that at SOU!
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Originally Posted by fjencl

ITA Airways to change E190 operator for London City route

(Can't see the whole story as its behind a pay wall) However, this might be the news that Eastern Airways will be operating for ITA instead of German Airways (perhaps) !!!

ITA Airways to change E190 operator for London City route - ch-aviation

well that s it then - Eastern must be one of the worst airlines around for cancellations, delays and just general inefficiency
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 17:04
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I think that ITA/German Airways gave up London City at the end of June, so there has been no summer service. Whether this was intentional, and permanent or just temporarily over the summer, is not apparent. When are ITA/Eastern looking at restarting ?
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 21:41
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I think that ITA/German Airways gave up London City at the end of June, so there has been no summer service. Whether this was intentional, and permanent or just temporarily over the summer, is not apparent. When are ITA/Eastern looking at restarting ?
Looks to be bookable from this Saturday!
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Old 12th Aug 2023, 17:18
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Yes, Eastern Embraer G-CLSN positioned on Friday afternoon from Humberside to Milan Linate, and started on a round trip schedule to LCY and back this morning, Saturday 12 August.
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Old 27th Aug 2023, 19:02
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Well, here we are, all set with the family to depart LCY this afternoon to Palma on holiday, and guess what - cancelled by BA about 2 hours before departure. Just as we were preparing to leave home.

Cancelled. On me. BA and LCY's longtime supporter, here and elsewhere ... ! ! !

I hadn't quite appreciated however how far BA irregular ops procedures had sunk. We were only advised by SMS text, and that we were auto rebooked one day later - from Heathrow. This was despite there being on the website seats still available that day from LCY. So a call to bookings was eventually answered, where it was apparent that the (non-UK, non-English first language) BA irregular ops agent had no idea (or was fed by their computer screen) that LCY and LHR are separate airports, I'm just requoted flights from LHR and only by reading the timetable out to them with flight numbers etc do I manage to get rebooked out of LCY.

Seems to have been a right shambles developed, with a string of cancellations. The parallel Ibiza round trip was also cancelled and their originally booked aircraft sent off at the same departure time to Frankfurt instead.

Meanwhile the website showed our outward flight cancelled, but stated in no uncertain terms that there was no compensation payable for the costs of getting to a different departure point. The spirit of Alex Cruz seems to live on. I suppose we will have to see what the three of us get out of EU261 etc, the loss of our prepaid hotel for us all, etc.

Now I've had cancellations before (way back in the PPRuNe history somewhere is an account of being stuck on the wrong side of the Atlantic during the 'volcano' episode quite some years ago), but really the whole thing is now just treated as an admin exercise in changing reservations, nothing more. Oh well, see you on the afternoon Palma tomorrow,

They had never even noticed from the data on the reservation that 27 August is Mrs WHBM's ( ) birthday ....
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Old 27th Aug 2023, 19:38
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Weather in Majorca today was and still is very poor with strong winds and thunderstorms. Maybe this had something to do with it.
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