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[nguba]

Interesting this wasn't mentioned at the IAG Capital Markets Day. An extra six seats per flight is quite a material impact on ASKs for BA CityFlyer.

[cavokblues]

Originally Posted by tictack67

I beg to differ, for a "business" airport in 11th Dec. they have great loads on nearly all their routes.

what gives you the impression they don't?

BA are only recruiting for Gatwick and have been only for the last few months. is that what you were thinking of.

Historically, their overall average LF was always below 80%.

I've noted they've stopped reporting it in their accounts since 2020 and prefer to focus on detailing seats available as a percentage of 2019's offering.

[jmdavies86]

Might this increase on the existing fleet be a transitional move by BACF towards a future order of the E190-E2 - the single-class cabin configuration of the -E2 variant is 106 @ 31in pitch...?

[OltonPete]

EDI

Originally Posted by cavokblues

Historically, their overall average LF was always below 80%.

I've noted they've stopped reporting it in their accounts since 2020 and prefer to focus on detailing seats available as a percentage of 2019's offering.

Credit - CAA with the actual pax figures and rotations

June 30821 pax 362 sectors = 85.15 per flight 85%
July 24527 pax 307 sectors = 79.89 per flight 80%
August 24901 pax 321 sectors = 77.57 per flight 78%
September 31171 pax 410 sectors = 76.02 per flight

Load factors are no secret but of course the important bit is only known by the few who monitor the booking engine every day to note the fares. Bigger aircraft and fewer sectors might be one way forward as June is impressive.

Pete

[BA318]

ITA have announced twice daily service to Rome from 31st March and Milan Linate going up to 5 daily.

[WHBM]

Italian carrier Air Dolomiti is offering flights from LCY to Frankfurt, starting February 2024. This seemed a little unlikely, but in the last week they have had an E190 in, positioning to and from Frankfurt, and spending the mornings on London City circuits. Actually owned by Lufthansa, and mainly operating from Frankfurt to various Italian points, I guess they will be taking over in their own name from the existing LH-branded operation.

[BA318]

Originally Posted by WHBM

Italian carrier Air Dolomiti is offering flights from LCY to Frankfurt, starting February 2024. This seemed a little unlikely, but in the last week they have had an E190 in, positioning to and from Frankfurt, and spending the mornings on London City circuits. Actually owned by Lufthansa, and mainly operating from Frankfurt to various Italian points, I guess they will be taking over in their own name from the existing LH-branded operation.

They will operate two of the four daily LH services. Apparently it’s short term but given LH was said to be planning to send the E190s to Air Dolomiti they might end up running it all.

[WHBM]

Quite separately, but it occurred to me just now as there is a thunderstorm in the distance from LCY. Now the tower and ATIS is fully automated from Southampton, how is it identified that there are thunderstorms in the vicinity. Is there still an actual ATC/weather watch at the airport ?

** - notably, Air Dolomiti are doing their circuit training right in the middle of the storm !

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

What was the issue causing diversions the other day? Heard it was Tower related, did the digital Tower fail?

[24138]

I was on the delayed LCY-IOM last night and the Captain told us it was an outage on the remote tower and he had to hold over the East coast for an hour, whilst some planes had to divert because of fuel. He told us we were lucky because he had enough fuel on board to hold and avoid a cancellation!

[Buster the Bear]

I am told that it was an 'Electronic Flight Progress Strip' (or whatever they are now called), failure, that affected other NATS units inc Farnborough, Bristol, Belfast and others.