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[Cazza_fly]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

Sadiq Khan not happy with London City having more flights at the weekend. Seems like there's going to be a long fight (well, everyone expected a long fight even if they didn't admit it publicly) with plenty of haggling involved
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65086374

The sooner that horrible specimen is out of offioe, the better. Yes, the next will most likely be no better, but hes been the worst for London. The woke thst he bows to please, will never wake up.

[cuthere]

OED definition of “woke”:

“alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination”

About time people learned to stop using this word in the above context as an insult; unless of course one thinks social injustice and discrimination is fine…..

I’m not sure opposing increased flight operations at an airport in east London makes a person a “specimen”, or any worse, or better, than someone who supports it.

Odd argument.

[Cazza_fly]

Originally Posted by cuthere

OED definition of “woke”:

“alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination”

About time people learned to stop using this word in the above context as an insult; unless of course one thinks social injustice and discrimination is fine…..

I’m not sure opposing increased flight operations at an airport in east London makes a person a “specimen”, or any worse, or better, than someone who supports it.

Odd argument.

Hardly odd... even though the above is only the "definition" for what people want it to mean, the reality is rather VERY different. If anything, your response epitomises it.

[cuthere]

No. OED is the Oxford English Dictionary. The authority on the English language. It may not suit your narrative, but the definition above is accurate. Don’t like it? Get in touch with the OED.

I’ve no doubt when people use the word “woke” they are either too stupid, too brainwashed (by media owned by non-dom tax-avoiders), or are wilfully ignorant as to its meaning. I suppose it’s a gentler word those that some would like to use…..

[DC3 Dave]

Seems very strange having a pop at Khan over this. Wasn’t it the case that in 2016 he reversed Boris’ effective mayoral veto on a compulsory purchase order that allowed the airport to grow to where it is able to today?

[AirportPlanner1]

I’d have said with great certainty based on comparative issues elsewhere that its the ‘non-woke’ who would have most to say on noise issues, further demonstrating the above poster has no clue what they’re talking. For their own good and wellbeing they might want to leave the Mail on the shelf and not visit the local neighbourhood Facebook groups for a few days

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1

I’d have said with great certainty based on comparative issues elsewhere that its the ‘non-woke’ who would have most to say on noise issues, further demonstrating the above poster has no clue what they’re talking.

Undoubtedly yes. And they may well have a case since when they bought their overpriced broom cupboards they knew there were restrictions on movements at LCY so to say "they moved in after the airport was opened" which is the normal response to residents complaining about aircraft noise may be a rather more difficult argument to make in this situation.

[WHBM]

Loganair moving Dundee flights away from LCY to Heathrow from May :

Loganair: New direct Dundee flights to Heathrow Airport (thecourier.co.uk)

[pabely]

Pax & Operating Hours increase blocked
https://www.cityam.com/grounded-coun...urs-expansion/

[davidjohnson6]

Is this (almost) the end of LCY's expansion attempt ? Or is this just the start of a long negotiation and planning process with Newham and the GLA ?

[SWBKCB]

The linked article says:

The application will now be referred to the GLA for a final decision.

[cavokblues]

And no doubt if the decision goes against them at the GLA, then an appeal to the Planning Inspectorate.

[Lord Bracken]

As a local resident (the departure route for LCY 27 and arrival route for 27L/R at LHR seem to intersect above my house) I am very much in favour of LCY expansion particularly if it leads to all-year-round services to FAO rather than just 1x daily in summer.

[stewyb]

Was never getting approved at local level with that volume of pax increase, an additional 4m seems absurd!

[DC3 Dave]

Given the GLA have expanded the ULEZ to all London boroughs would they not lose all credibility if they agreed to any expansion at LCY.

[pabely]

Originally Posted by Lord Bracken

As a local resident (the departure route for LCY 27 and arrival route for 27L/R at LHR seem to intersect above my house) I am very much in favour of LCY expansion particularly if it leads to all-year-round services to FAO rather than just 1x daily in summer.

You could always commute to Southend, I'm sure they would welcome the business! Ops only x2 week but flights available for £22!

[LTNman]

A spokesperson for Newham Council said this afternoon that “the refusal reflects the council’s continued concerns over the noise and environmental impact of the airport on those living nearby. These concerns were shared by a number of other boroughs who also submitted objections to the proposals.”

A socially responsible council that puts the local population first unlike a certain council I could name.

[BA318]

Originally Posted by LTNman

A socially responsible council that puts the local population first unlike a certain council I could name.

more likely they are scared because the greens won two seats on Newham Council providing them with some opposition (Newham Council has been 100% Labour for the past 10 years at least). Nothing with the airport has changed. They are just being political and making sure they can fight their opposition when the time comes.

[pabely]

Originally Posted by LTNman

A socially responsible council that puts the local population first unlike a certain council I could name.

Not sure Newham locals will totally agree with that with local issues on housing & crime probally higher up their agenda.
Remember North Somerset Council objected to Bristol Airport expansion but once it was referred to Government was given green light and a High Court appeal was rejected so I'm sure this is not the end.

[LTNman]

Originally Posted by BA318

more likely they are scared because the greens won two seats on Newham Council providing them with some opposition (Newham Council has been 100% Labour for the past 10 years at least). Nothing with the airport has changed. They are just being political and making sure they can fight their opposition when the time comes.

Two opposition councillors will have zero influence no matter how loud they shout. The proposals are to expand the airport not leave it as it is so clearly there is some opposition.