East Midlands-7
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Lestah
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Freeport
A map showing the location of the Freeport tax sites which will be centred on and around the airport can now be viewed on the GOV.UK website.
The main site is a huge area to the South of the airport stretching between Diseworth and Donington Services. The area is roughly that of the Segro EM Gateway which also now includes three new tax sites.
There are are two sites shown on the airport itself. One covers the majority of the central maintenance area, including long stay car park one. The other is the area at the extreme Western end of the airport which is currently used for car parking.
Indications show that provision has been made here for a sizeable extension to the Western ramp. I would imagine therefore, that this location will probably be used for additional freight facilities.
One area that has not been included in the Freeport planning is that to the East of the new UPS hub, so it could be that this is already earmarked for a new ramp to cater for UPS’s future expansion.
It remains to be seen what transpires, but with the continued growth in airfreight at EMA I can imagine more ramp space will be required sooner rather than later.
A map showing the location of the Freeport tax sites which will be centred on and around the airport can now be viewed on the GOV.UK website.
The main site is a huge area to the South of the airport stretching between Diseworth and Donington Services. The area is roughly that of the Segro EM Gateway which also now includes three new tax sites.
There are are two sites shown on the airport itself. One covers the majority of the central maintenance area, including long stay car park one. The other is the area at the extreme Western end of the airport which is currently used for car parking.
Indications show that provision has been made here for a sizeable extension to the Western ramp. I would imagine therefore, that this location will probably be used for additional freight facilities.
One area that has not been included in the Freeport planning is that to the East of the new UPS hub, so it could be that this is already earmarked for a new ramp to cater for UPS’s future expansion.
It remains to be seen what transpires, but with the continued growth in airfreight at EMA I can imagine more ramp space will be required sooner rather than later.
Mentioned this to my Brother today over a coffee. He spent a lifetime at LCC covering NW Leics planning permissions. He mentioned that the land south of the A453 between the M1 services and the a/p entrance has long been ear marked for freight warehousing development - plus a load of new homes toward Dizzyworth for the new employees.
He suggested this will move forward now. We shall see.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Solihull
Age: 60
Posts: 3,327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Fed Ex
Pete
Thread Starter
We will find out next week, but with EasyJet pulling BFS/EMA at the end of this month BHD/EMA ought to be in amongst the new Flybe offering since it will become an unserved city pairing, and one which has always been pretty popular.
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FEDEX adding a 4 weekly mon-thurs 767F EMA- CDG - EMA replacing the man/bhx - CDG
begins 28th March.
Last edited by EGNXROB; 16th Mar 2022 at 17:28.
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: London
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: EGSS
Posts: 943
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The EMA-IND route is only at EMA due to a shortage of night slots at STN. FedEx have had night slot issues at STN for some time and previously operated a EWR-STN-CDG-EWR service that should have operated vis STN on the return to the US but due to a lack of night slots had to operate directly to the US on the return. eventually when it became aparent that the issue would not be resolved the service became a EWR-CDG-EWR route.
With regards to the variety of points of origin for flights to CDG remember FedEx is a parcels service and its all about the box, the aircraft will go wherever the box’s originate or terminate. A prime example of this is with DHL at Luton, they cannot get LHR slots for the London inbound sort so the flights operate to LTN, in the evening the flights position empty to LHR to collect the outbound London sort because LHR is closer to the sort location than LTN.
With regards to the variety of points of origin for flights to CDG remember FedEx is a parcels service and its all about the box, the aircraft will go wherever the box’s originate or terminate. A prime example of this is with DHL at Luton, they cannot get LHR slots for the London inbound sort so the flights operate to LTN, in the evening the flights position empty to LHR to collect the outbound London sort because LHR is closer to the sort location than LTN.
Thread Starter
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: DE74
Age: 49
Posts: 767
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
BHD ought to work for both Flybe and EMA with EasyJet giving up BFS/EMA at the end of March. Provided they have got in place an interline agreement with KLM and the timings fit in to some extent with onward connections at Schiphol AMS could do quite well too. Both routes probably have better chances of success than trying to compete with KLM on AMS/LHR!!
But the EMA routes should have every reason to succeed, and if BE manage to get a KL code on the AMS route it would be brilliant for EMA pax through ticketing to KL's global network. However, from my time at KL, their pilot unions keep very very tight control on which and how many partner airlines can carry a KL codeshare. But I am REALLY hoping for the codeshare and access to a network carriers hub from EMA.
Maybe the new BE will consider GLA, EDI, NQY, and CDG? (Although CDG is one of the worst hubs for connecting pax)
Thread Starter
Fully agree ATNotts ! The LHR routes to BHD, LBA and AMS look dreadful choices, but I guess they are associated to the former bmi slots.
But the EMA routes should have every reason to succeed, and if BE manage to get a KL code on the AMS route it would be brilliant for EMA pax through ticketing to KL's global network. However, from my time at KL, their pilot unions keep very very tight control on which and how many partner airlines can carry a KL codeshare. But I am REALLY hoping for the codeshare and access to a network carriers hub from EMA.
Maybe the new BE will consider GLA, EDI, NQY, and CDG? (Although CDG is one of the worst hubs for connecting pax)
But the EMA routes should have every reason to succeed, and if BE manage to get a KL code on the AMS route it would be brilliant for EMA pax through ticketing to KL's global network. However, from my time at KL, their pilot unions keep very very tight control on which and how many partner airlines can carry a KL codeshare. But I am REALLY hoping for the codeshare and access to a network carriers hub from EMA.
Maybe the new BE will consider GLA, EDI, NQY, and CDG? (Although CDG is one of the worst hubs for connecting pax)
!iving in the N W corner of the West Midlands I can assure you that EMA is definitely NOT cut off from us , it just takes, typically, 15 mins longer in the car and none of that horrendous M6 traffic J10 to J5.
Furthermore it has good car parks not placed so far away as to require a Bus to get to the Terminal, alternatively an excelient Meet & Greet.
OK, so it hasn't got a BHX Shopping Mall and Boozers hut you're there to catch a flight. Right?
Since 2018, with exception of. Covid closures, it replaced BHX as my airport of choice for Jet2 holidays except one where they didnt fly there on the day I needed.
Furthermore it has good car parks not placed so far away as to require a Bus to get to the Terminal, alternatively an excelient Meet & Greet.
OK, so it hasn't got a BHX Shopping Mall and Boozers hut you're there to catch a flight. Right?
Since 2018, with exception of. Covid closures, it replaced BHX as my airport of choice for Jet2 holidays except one where they didnt fly there on the day I needed.
Thread Starter
!iving in the N W corner of the West Midlands I can assure you that EMA is definitely NOT cut off from us , it just takes, typically, 15 mins longer in the car and none of that horrendous M6 traffic J10 to J5.
Furthermore it has good car parks not placed so far away as to require a Bus to get to the Terminal, alternatively an excelient Meet & Greet.
OK, so it hasn't got a BHX Shopping Mall and Boozers hut you're there to catch a flight. Right?
Since 2018, with exception of. Covid closures, it replaced BHX as my airport of choice for Jet2 holidays except one where they didnt fly there on the day I needed.
Furthermore it has good car parks not placed so far away as to require a Bus to get to the Terminal, alternatively an excelient Meet & Greet.
OK, so it hasn't got a BHX Shopping Mall and Boozers hut you're there to catch a flight. Right?
Since 2018, with exception of. Covid closures, it replaced BHX as my airport of choice for Jet2 holidays except one where they didnt fly there on the day I needed.
Thread Starter
!iving in the N W corner of the West Midlands I can assure you that EMA is definitely NOT cut off from us , it just takes, typically, 15 mins longer in the car and none of that horrendous M6 traffic J10 to J5.
Furthermore it has good car parks not placed so far away as to require a Bus to get to the Terminal, alternatively an excelient Meet & Greet.
OK, so it hasn't got a BHX Shopping Mall and Boozers hut you're there to catch a flight. Right?
Since 2018, with exception of. Covid closures, it replaced BHX as my airport of choice for Jet2 holidays except one where they didnt fly there on the day I needed.
Furthermore it has good car parks not placed so far away as to require a Bus to get to the Terminal, alternatively an excelient Meet & Greet.
OK, so it hasn't got a BHX Shopping Mall and Boozers hut you're there to catch a flight. Right?
Since 2018, with exception of. Covid closures, it replaced BHX as my airport of choice for Jet2 holidays except one where they didnt fly there on the day I needed.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Solihull
Age: 60
Posts: 3,327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Flybe
GLA and EDI were on my list of "possibles" but without a base at EMA or either of the Scottish airports operating at business friendly timings would be a challenge at present. They are taking a risk offering Scottish services from BHX up against EZY, but as I posted on the Flybe thread I reckon they are betting on EZY moving aircraft of the BHX domestics to serve more profitable routes between UK and the continent during high summer - as they have with the BFS/EMA service. If that doesn't come to pass they may find BHX routes tough, and could conceivably shift the Scottish routes up the M42/A42; doing so wouldn't cut them off from all the BHX market, just the west and north sides of the West Midlands.
Amsterdam-EMA last time was a success if load factors and fares were anything to go by - CAA stats for 2019 show 48462 pax, 707 flights which is 69 per flight or 88% which is higher than what I thought but shows demand if nothing else.
Pete
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Derby
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All down to stand availability yesterday evening there was a extra 777 in from Leige (unsure if this is to be regular) which had to hold over Leicester until a company 757 was moved to the main apron to free up some ramp space on the Eastern cargo apron