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Old 17th Mar 2023, 14:45
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Which is horrific, like a shed or prison block. I wouldn’t promote any more of that sort of add-on as a welcome to international arrivals
It was only supposed to be temporary until the terminal expansion to the east and south happened although the pandemic kind of altered those plans. It still has a very temporary feel about it.
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Old 18th Mar 2023, 12:41
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Wizz BUD-EDI is suspended for a month between 28MAR-21APR.
Extended until 08JUN, then it will be down from 3x to 2x weekly (if it returns).
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Old 18th Mar 2023, 15:31
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Originally Posted by TBSC
Extended until 08JUN, then it will be down from 3x to 2x weekly (if it returns).
Classic Wizz behaviour. Warsaw route about to be dropped. Budapest “suspended” for a few months. Probably dropped. Only a couple of days ago they were advertising Abu Dhabi from EDI via Budapest…
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 18:16
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January 2023

Pax totals and approx load factors for certain routes.

United

Newark - 8050 - 83%

Delta

JFK - 5771 - 75%

Turkish

Istanbul - 10,424 - 96%

Qatar

Doha - 14,918 - 98%
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 18:50
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Pretty decent considering January is very much one of the lowest seasons.
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 19:51
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Can I ask a dumb question, never having landed internationally into EDI? How do they balance UK Border staffing needs vs. stand allocations against the two international arrivals halls? Aren't they by neccesity over staffed vs. one single facility?
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Old 27th Mar 2023, 20:58
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Can I ask a dumb question, never having landed internationally into EDI? How do they balance UK Border staffing needs vs. stand allocations against the two international arrivals halls? Aren't they by neccesity over staffed vs. one single facility?
Both halls have e-gates which accommodate UK and Irish nationals. This takes some pressure off border officers. BCO’s will flip between both halls depending on arrivals. Peak season is a different matter. With more North American arrivals than ever before in S23 and more wide body aircraft along with double daily QR 788’s, the terminal arrivals areas will be stretched to the limit at peak times. Another factor to note is the set-up of the gates. Particularly at the old arrivals side. When an aircraft arrives and is attached to a bridge, no boarding can take place at other gates until pax have cleared the area. Not ideal at all. I should think more officers will be required in S23.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 10:30
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Air Canada now extending the Toronto route to the winter months. Between 30 October and 8th January, they'll have 3x weekly flights.​​https://corporate.edinburghairport.c...-winter-months
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 13:42
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Delta W23

EDI-JFK increasing from 5 x weekly to daily. A return to year round daily. As in W22, more premium heavy 763, offering premium select operating in winter months.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 14:24
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https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...-for-2026.html

The new CEO of Philadelphia Airport has also gone on the record stating that he's working with AA to restore all of Philadelphia's lost routes, including Edinburgh.

“Our primary focus right now is to prepare our airport for 2026, and that work starts yesterday,” Saeed said during a recent Philadelphia Business Journal tourism event in Center City.

To do so, PHL is working on bringing back routes that stopped flying during the pandemic due to a lack of demand and improving the customer experience throughout the airport.

Saeed, who was hired in October to oversee PHL and started in December, said the airport predicts that visitation will recover to monthly 2019 levels in late 2025 and has set a goal of achieving annual recovery in 2026.

In terms of flights, PHL is still missing 23 domestic routes and 12 international routes out of the 150 domestic and 40 international routes it boasted pre-pandemic.

The missing domestic flights aren’t as concerning, according to Saeed, although he wants to get them back on the schedule. Of the 23 missing, 21 are shorter regional flights served by small passenger planes that were cut because of a lack of demand during the pandemic.

As for international service, Saeed wants to regain all of the 12 missing routes in 2024. Specific destinations he wants to see make their return are Reykjavik, Iceland; Edinburgh, Scotland; Manchester, England; Budapest, Hungary; Berlin, Germany; and Prague, Czech Republic.

PHL is currently working with American Airlines (NASDAQ: AAL) to see what can be done to put these flights back on the schedule.

Saeed believes bringing international flights back could in turn grow the need for regional flights, which partially serve as quick connections to get overseas travellers to their international flights out of Philadelphia. He said the recovery of business travel would also help increase the number of routes and frequency of flights flown to and from PHL.
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In which previous years were there daily flights to JFK in winter, let alone with another flight to EWR?
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 15:08
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It would be great to see AA back with a route to PHL. They must be looking at the offering to EDI from both UA and DL and thinking why not! I presume it’s lack of suitable aircraft at the moment that’s stopping it from happening.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 16:14
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Would love to see AA back at EDI and MAN. However, could mean United/Delta may have to cut frequencies as 3x daily to New York, 1x daily to Philadelphia, summer seasonals to Chicago and Dulles too seems quite a lot!
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
It would be great to see AA back with a route to PHL. They must be looking at the offering to EDI from both UA and DL and thinking why not! I presume it’s lack of suitable aircraft at the moment that’s stopping it from happening.
Lack of aircraft AND the knowledge they feed LHR with BA domestic, United and Air Canada lost BMI so if they want market share, they have to use their own metal once more. The formation of STAR and British Midland codeshares saw United pull Glasgow and Air Canada drop to summer only. Even NWA dropped Scottish ops in favour of KLM feed over AMS. The clock turns...
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 19:14
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Lack of aircraft AND the knowledge they feed LHR with BA domestic, United and Air Canada lost BMI so if they want market share, they have to use their own metal once more. The formation of STAR and British Midland codeshares saw United pull Glasgow and Air Canada drop to summer only. Even NWA dropped Scottish ops in favour of KLM feed over AMS. The clock turns...
American expect delivery of its 321XLR end of 2023/ early 2024. 20 flagship first suites and 12 premium economy. This will be a game changer for routes like PHL-EDI. A number of this aircraft will be based out of PHL and CLT. They should also have the option of 788’s in 2024, should demand be as good as it was previously on the route.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 20:20
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Originally Posted by ld0595
Air Canada now extending the Toronto route to the winter months. Between 30 October and 8th January, they'll have 3x weekly flights.​​https://corporate.edinburghairport.c...-winter-months
W23

Flights now on sale. Monday, Thursday and Saturday from EDI. B789 is the operating aircraft.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 22:57
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Originally Posted by laviation
Would love to see AA back at EDI and MAN. However, could mean United/Delta may have to cut frequencies as 3x daily to New York, 1x daily to Philadelphia, summer seasonals to Chicago and Dulles too seems quite a lot!
If AA do return, I don’t see United or Delta reducing capacity or running scared. PHL is one of American’s hub. Great for connection via DFW or DEN or Austin which is fast turning into a big operation for AA. The days when Americans could only reach Scotland via Heathrow (BA) is gone. I’d avoid LHR every day of the week if I could.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 00:14
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
American expect delivery of its 321XLR end of 2023/ early 2024. 20 flagship first suites and 12 premium economy. This will be a game changer for routes like PHL-EDI. A number of this aircraft will be based out of PHL and CLT. They should also have the option of 788’s in 2024, should demand be as good as it was previously on the route.
From what I last read, because the A321XLR delays, AA aren't expecting the receive their first model until Q4 2024. I suspect if they do come back, they'll either put the 787-8 on the route next year or wait until 2025 when they have sufficient A321XLR planes/crew, and continue to funnel their passengers via BA through their joint venture until then.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 10:38
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
. The days when Americans could only reach Scotland via Heathrow (BA) is gone.
When was this last the case? Pre Continental at GLA in 1998 surely may have been the one season with nothing, I'd need to check. Was there ever a winter with no scheduled direct US flights in our lifetimes?
Point is AA don't need to serve EDI to have market share, DL and UA do. It's often one stop regardless of EDI-LHR-USA or USA-US hub-EDI.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 10:41
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
When was this last the case? Pre Continental at GLA in 1998 surely may have been the one season with nothing, I'd need to check. Was there ever a winter with no scheduled direct US flights in our lifetimes?
BOAC from Prestwick?
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