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Started last Thursday - 2nd Feb. S23 schedules will be announced imminently apparently. EDI will be hoping for double daily each day in line with the initial slots request.
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Also seams Iceland Air has come to knot - does
it cost airlines to hold slots and not use them?
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No penalty for foreign airlines not using slots at EDI. Only UK registered airlines must use or lose slots following CAA’s amnesty on slots usage was withdrawn for S23. I wonder if EK is holding off to see what QR do before making a decision? They also have well documented staffing issues, which may be a factor. They are also due to take deliveries of A350’s and 787-9 in 2024. The recently rumoured return of Etihad is still on the cards according to contacts at EDI.
From a purely selfish point of view I'd prefer Emirates to return over Etihad, simply because they fly to destinations that Etihad don't fly to.
Still a bit of competition with Qatar would be good for EDI passengers regardless if either or both decide to return.
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11th based Ryanair aircraft: https://www.heraldscotland.com/busin...burgh-airport/
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11th based Ryanair aircraft: https://www.heraldscotland.com/busin...burgh-airport/
No penalty for foreign airlines not using slots at EDI. Only UK registered airlines must use or lose slots following CAA’s amnesty on slots usage was withdrawn for S23.
Edinburgh is not a fully coordinated airport. The UK has eight fully coordinated (also known as "Level 3") airports which are LHR, LGW, STN, LCY, LTN, MAN, BHX and BRS (for night movements). Most other airports including Edinburgh are schedules facilitated ("Level 2") where technically, slots do not exist. Airlines notify their schedules to the coordinator and maintain a database which does all sorts of things including planning tools and flight information feeds to systems and airport screens. The coordinator may ask if Airline X or Y can move their planned timings to alleviate forecast congestion.
No slot alleviations were given by the CAA. The CAA has no role in slots policy. The alleviations were consulted upon by the UK Department for Transport, passed into law by Parliament and then enacted by Airport Coordination as the UK coordinator. The CAA were almost the only people not to have anything to do with it!
There is no difference in policy applying between UK airlines and overseas airlines operating at UK airports - the slot use-it or lose-it rules are the same for all. So if you have slots at a fully coordinated airport for Summer 2023, you have to use them with 80% regularity or you won't earn historic rights to those slots for future seasons. Not relevant in the case of Edinburgh as it's not fully coordinated to begin with.
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Sorry if I sound argumentative, but it's pretty hard to fit as many incorrect statements into two sentences as you have.
Edinburgh is not a fully coordinated airport. The UK has eight fully coordinated (also known as "Level 3") airports which are LHR, LGW, STN, LCY, LTN, MAN, BHX and BRS (for night movements). Most other airports including Edinburgh are schedules facilitated ("Level 2") where technically, slots do not exist. Airlines notify their schedules to the coordinator and maintain a database which does all sorts of things including planning tools and flight information feeds to systems and airport screens. The coordinator may ask if Airline X or Y can move their planned timings to alleviate forecast congestion.
No slot alleviations were given by the CAA. The CAA has no role in slots policy. The alleviations were consulted upon by the UK Department for Transport, passed into law by Parliament and then enacted by Airport Coordination as the UK coordinator. The CAA were almost the only people not to have anything to do with it!
There is no difference in policy applying between UK airlines and overseas airlines operating at UK airports - the slot use-it or lose-it rules are the same for all. So if you have slots at a fully coordinated airport for Summer 2023, you have to use them with 80% regularity or you won't earn historic rights to those slots for future seasons. Not relevant in the case of Edinburgh as it's not fully coordinated to begin with.
Edinburgh is not a fully coordinated airport. The UK has eight fully coordinated (also known as "Level 3") airports which are LHR, LGW, STN, LCY, LTN, MAN, BHX and BRS (for night movements). Most other airports including Edinburgh are schedules facilitated ("Level 2") where technically, slots do not exist. Airlines notify their schedules to the coordinator and maintain a database which does all sorts of things including planning tools and flight information feeds to systems and airport screens. The coordinator may ask if Airline X or Y can move their planned timings to alleviate forecast congestion.
No slot alleviations were given by the CAA. The CAA has no role in slots policy. The alleviations were consulted upon by the UK Department for Transport, passed into law by Parliament and then enacted by Airport Coordination as the UK coordinator. The CAA were almost the only people not to have anything to do with it!
There is no difference in policy applying between UK airlines and overseas airlines operating at UK airports - the slot use-it or lose-it rules are the same for all. So if you have slots at a fully coordinated airport for Summer 2023, you have to use them with 80% regularity or you won't earn historic rights to those slots for future seasons. Not relevant in the case of Edinburgh as it's not fully coordinated to begin with.
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DL209 to JFK had an emergency landing at Prestwick shortly after take off from EDI.
A replacement aircraft positioning from BRU to PIK to take the passengers onwards to JFK
A replacement aircraft positioning from BRU to PIK to take the passengers onwards to JFK
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This must have been terrifying. Fire from part of the wing or engine? Huge credit to the pilots for getting this aircraft down safely.
Last edited by Planeraz; 10th Feb 2023 at 15:03.
Does it really matter from pax.point of view? Looks like flames, acts like flames, fuel.load high, ancient aircraft, and a need to divert and land within 30 minutes to PIK and.utilise long runway, not forgetting the total.disruption to all.pax. Yes ofcourse safety first....so.what causes engine surge?
so.what causes engine surge?
As for a wing fire, I really don't think it was (based on the video evidence)
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Lufthansa reducing frequency on FRA and MUC routes. Europe wide reductions, not just EDI. It looks like MUC will revert to the previously planned 3 x weekly and not daily. Brussels Airlines is increasing to daily from May.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230213-lheu
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230213-lheu
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Lufthansa reducing frequency on FRA and MUC routes. Europe wide reductions, not just EDI. It looks like MUC will revert to the previously planned 3 x weekly and not daily. Brussels Airlines is increasing to daily from May.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230213-lheu
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230213-lheu
Every UK airport apart from Belfast is being reduced.
GLA,NCL,MAN,BHX,BRS,LCY, LHR.all facing similar cuts for the summer.
The reason for the reductions of nearly 1,000 flights over the summer because it can't find enough staff not because demand is low. Interestingly most flights are either Friday, Saturday or Sunday
https://www.businessinsider.com/luft...-europe-2022-6