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Old 18th May 2023, 15:26
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without public funding.
Which with GIP creaming off from annual revenue of almost 40M, most would find hard to swallow. But suspect GIP would be long gone before that sort of scenario arose.
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Old 18th May 2023, 17:07
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Interesting as I flew as pax EDILGW this afternoon. While fighting my way through the terminal crowds I thought of all the EDI fanboys on this forum who rave about new routes and larger aircraft with never a thought for the poor passengers and the inadequate terminal facilities.
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Old 18th May 2023, 18:52
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
Interesting as I flew as pax EDILGW this afternoon. While fighting my way through the terminal crowds I thought of all the EDI fanboys on this forum who rave about new routes and larger aircraft with never a thought for the poor passengers and the inadequate terminal facilities.
My parents went through today to catch their flight to Madrid and they said they were through quickly and sitting relaxing in a bar with a drink. I guess itís peaks and troughs.
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Old 18th May 2023, 19:45
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Interesting as I flew as pax EDILGW this afternoon. While fighting my way through the terminal crowds I thought of all the EDI fanboys on this forum who rave about new routes and larger aircraft with never a thought for the poor passengers and the inadequate terminal facilities.
Pay enough and you might soon be able to bypass "the inadequate terminal facilities" completely:

http://www.aviationpros.com/fbos-ten...-opening-event

Signature Aviation's EDI location is also ready to launch its Elite Class product, enabling customers to utilize the facility for both arrival and departure for their commercial flights. Discussions with airlines are already underway to ensure a successful launch
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Old 18th May 2023, 20:06
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
Interesting as I flew as pax EDILGW this afternoon. While fighting my way through the terminal crowds I thought of all the EDI fanboys on this forum who rave about new routes and larger aircraft with never a thought for the poor passengers and the inadequate terminal facilities.
Why just this week at spacious Glasgow they couldn't even board a special assistance passenger on the correct flight.

Not uncommon to sit at LHR for 30mins to wait for a stand or wait for 50mons in queue to take off, all comparative to scale. Things go wrong, that's aviation, but again losing your shit cos Edinburgh has a few new route is sheet idiocy
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Old 18th May 2023, 20:38
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Hardly losing my shit. Merely pointing out that increase in routes and aircraft sizes can have negative as well as positive effect on the passenger experience.




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Old 18th May 2023, 23:27
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Signature Aviation have officially opened their FBO at EDI.Judging by the photo, the staff had a jolly time at the opening ceremony.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...s-scotland-fbo

Signature Aviation held a grand-opening celebration for its newly completed FBO at Scotlandís Edinburgh Airport (EGPH) late last week. The facility, which took two years to build, features a 5,575-sq-ft (515-sq-m) terminal with discrete entrances for passengers and crew. Amenities include VIP suites, conference room, coffee bar, business center, crew lounge, and 48-space secure vehicle parking lot.

The location has nearly 70,000 sq ft (6,497 sq m) of dedicated ramp, which allows it to handle any size aircraft up to an Airbus A330. It is fully self-sufficient with its own equipment ranging from a pair of fuel trucks to airstairs, tugs, ground power units, and belt loaders.

Signature has invested substantially in the FBO and its security screening equipment. Installation of a CT3 X-ray machine upgrade is planned for early 2024. The company is in negotiations with airlines to introduce its Elite Class product there, which will allow commercial passengers to use the facility for arriving and departing flights.

ďWe are looking forward to a successful partnership with Edinburgh Airport as we grow our business in Scotland and the UK," said John-Angus Smith, Signatureís managing director for EMEA.
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Old 18th May 2023, 23:55
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
Numerous delays today at EDI. Terminal overwhelmed at times. United 978 to Washington pushed back from gate 11. Then didnít move for 95 mins. Incoming Qatar 788 landed then sat for 45 mins. Presumably he would have been assigned gate 11. A Lufthansa 321 at gate 4 then pushed back as the Qatar was heading in. Further delays. The United 752 then started to move. Lined up to take off. Started to roll then aborted. Flight cancelled. All the other widebody stands were occupied by a Westjet 789, another delayed UA 752 bound for Chicago and a delayed delta 763 to Boston. Just shows what can happen when one wide-body gate is blocked by another aircraft. All of this before the real summer rush starts. Surely a terminal extension of some kind is required to cope with the ever increasing number of arrivals and departures?
The only delay relating to EDI here was the QR B788 having to hold for a stand. Stand 16 is largely unavailable this week whilst the jetbridge that got into a fight with a QR A35K a while back is finally repaired. Therein lies the main problem today, combined with the WS B789 running half an hour late departing which didn't help.
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Old 19th May 2023, 07:03
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How have the loads been on the Calgary route so far?
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Old 19th May 2023, 07:16
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How have the loads been on the Calgary route so far?
Only started yesterday. According to dataset - 308 inbound from Calgary. Donít have info for outbound. Westjet 789 seats 320.
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Old 19th May 2023, 10:54
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Only started yesterday. According to dataset - 308 inbound from Calgary. Donít have info for outbound. Westjet 789 seats 320.
Thoughts and prayers for those triggered by this news
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wonderful. If you canít get an (almost) full load on an inaugural when can you !
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Old 19th May 2023, 14:21
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Didn't realise yesterday was the inaugural! Good loads to start
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Old 20th May 2023, 08:04
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how many were free loading for the publicity?
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Old 20th May 2023, 13:12
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Article about US tourism in Scotland that mentions the airport.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-65637377

Edinburgh Airport has begun new links this month with Atlanta, Georgia, and also with Calgary in Canada, while resuming links with Boston and Chicago.

Following Brexit, it has been successful in attracting a bigger share of transatlantic travel than Glasgow, which used to dominate.

And the capital's airport has a significantly higher share of inbound American travellers - as opposed to outbound travellers from the UK - than any other major airport in Britain.

Between March and October last year, more than half the passengers on US flights began their journey in the US, peaking at 76% in August last year.

In 2019, before the pandemic, 636,000 US citizens visited Scotland.

Americans accounted for 18% of international visitor numbers.

Their total spend for the year amounted to £717m.

US visitors each spent an average of £161 per day.

The average length of stay was 6.7 nights.

Source: VisitScotland

Edinburgh Airport chief executive Gordon Dewar says that a big change is in the spread beyond the summer months, with more airlines continuing to fly these routes into autumn.

"We were on a growth trajectory, and post-Covid, it really accelerated.

"The American market was fastest out the blocks. They stopped travel restrictions a year before Europe did, so they were ready to go."

Mr Dewar reports that transatlantic passenger numbers are 25% higher this year than they were before the pandemic.

"We've got more destinations, higher frequencies and a really interesting development is we've got longer seasons.

"One American airline said Edinburgh was the most profitable first year it ever had on a transatlantic route."
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Old 20th May 2023, 13:22
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Thoughts and prayers for those triggered by this news
Why would this news "trigger" people?
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Old 20th May 2023, 18:58
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Originally Posted by GoEDI
The only delay relating to EDI here was the QR B788 having to hold for a stand. Stand 16 is largely unavailable this week whilst the jetbridge that got into a fight with a QR A35K a while back is finally repaired. Therein lies the main problem today, combined with the WS B789 running half an hour late departing which didn't help.
They all happened at EDI - doesn't really matter who was 'at fault' if your system doesn't have enough capacity to cope when the inevitable sh*t happens!
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Old 20th May 2023, 19:16
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In 2019, before the pandemic, 636,000 US citizens visited Scotland
PIK used to get ~ 300K pa before they lost the monopoly. I would have thought we'd have way more than doubled that figure in 33 years?
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Old 20th May 2023, 19:20
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Certainly would've more than doubled, but the count might've been US citizens entering at Scottish airports. A lot will still fly into Heathrow and take the train up once they've done all the sightseeing in London
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
how many were free loading for the publicity?
Iíll take a more positive stance. A new route arrives almost full. Still only mid May. No real social media fanfare. No water cannon salute. Havenít found anything on Westjet social media or EDI with any real mention. If the advance bookings are poor, both would have been on it long before now.
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