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Flybe and a general reduction in domestic traffic, which seems to have reached a plateau of about 70% of its pre-pandemic level.
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None of the US3 have any European presence from LAX outside of London and Paris. I've said it here before but I can't see who would fly to LAX from Edinburgh other than Virgin at a push. I believe they used to fly from Manchester a few years ago.
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UK & Europe VP quoted in an interview that he is sure that Emirates will return to EDI in the future. I wonder if this will happen when EK take delivery of the 787’s?
"We've got a second Glasgow flight to come at some point. Edinburgh we haven't really started with yet but, that will come at some point in the future I'm sure. Its all driven by aircraft capacity so there's no timeline at the moment but we are working hard to bring our aircraft back into service".
UK & Europe VP quoted in an interview that he is sure that Emirates will return to EDI in the future. I wonder if this will happen when EK take delivery of the 787’s?
"We've got a second Glasgow flight to come at some point. Edinburgh we haven't really started with yet but, that will come at some point in the future I'm sure. Its all driven by aircraft capacity so there's no timeline at the moment but we are working hard to bring our aircraft back into service".
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In relation to further expansion with existing airlines and their hubs. United other hubs being Denver, Houston and LAX. Denver has been rumoured previously along with LAX. Delta other hubs being Seattle, Salt Lake City, Minneapolis, Detroit and LAX. As the CEO mentioned, lots of scope for more growth. A direct west coast route would be a major breakthrough.
The Scotsman article linked to above quotes the EDI spokesperson as saying
Ms Sherry said: "I’m not sure if west coast America will be happening that quickly. But definitely over the long term as airline fleets evolve, there are a huge amount of new routes or growth in the US that we could go for.”?
Ms Sherry said further transatlantic development was currently focused on the hubs of Edinburgh’s existing airlines.
"There is presumably some oil and gas related traffic to and from Aberdeen that might use a direct EDI service in preference to changing somewhere."
That's been looked at since the 1970's - the preference was always a direct from ABZ - if you have to drive from ABZ to EDI and park the car or take the train you might as well go via LHR
That's been looked at since the 1970's - the preference was always a direct from ABZ - if you have to drive from ABZ to EDI and park the car or take the train you might as well go via LHR
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EDI can barely hold a seasonal MCO route let alone any other US route expansion.
At best it would be transforming another seasonal HUB route to all year round but doubt that too.
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UK & Europe VP quoted in an interview that he is sure that Emirates will return to EDI in the future. I wonder if this will happen when EK take delivery of the 787’s?
"We've got a second Glasgow flight to come at some point. Edinburgh we haven't really started with yet but, that will come at some point in the future I'm sure. It’s all driven by aircraft capacity so there's no timeline at the moment but we are working hard to bring our aircraft back into service".
UK & Europe VP quoted in an interview that he is sure that Emirates will return to EDI in the future. I wonder if this will happen when EK take delivery of the 787’s?
"We've got a second Glasgow flight to come at some point. Edinburgh we haven't really started with yet but, that will come at some point in the future I'm sure. It’s all driven by aircraft capacity so there's no timeline at the moment but we are working hard to bring our aircraft back into service".
when are EK due to get B787’s? Are the 789 or 781?
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I may be reading all these quotes out of context having not seen the full article either but I agree. The quote appears more in the past tense and that the route growth has happened already through adding Atlanta and doubling Newark and increase in JFK W23.
EDI can barely hold a seasonal MCO route let alone any other US route expansion.
At best it would be transforming another seasonal HUB route to all year round but doubt that too.
EDI can barely hold a seasonal MCO route let alone any other US route expansion.
At best it would be transforming another seasonal HUB route to all year round but doubt that too.
Since the quote refers to "further transatlantic development" it's unlikely to be referring to developments that have already happened. I agree, however, that it's more likely that it refers to extending the period of operation of some of the existing seasonal hub routes rather than to introducing a new hub service.
I'm not sure what MCO (more attractive to outbound UK leisure passengers) can tell us about routes from other US hubs (which would be attractive to outbound US passengers). It certainly didn't prevent DL launching ATL and UA adding a second EWR.
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This may not be the best thread, but what proportion of EK passengers are using Dubai as a hub, and how many are (for reasons I can't begin to understand ) going there on holiday? I assume that QR are almost entirely transfer PAX.
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In Oban. Why are you so disparaging about Dubai as a holiday destination? Great weather (apart from in the summer), very safe, good restaurants etc. Frankly I’d rather spend a week there than in Oban (and I’ve been to both).
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While I get that the other attractions are real, it's beyond me why anyone would go to a country with such an arbitrary legal system (esp one that doesn't quite treat women as real people)! I'd rather there were flights from Edinburgh to Obanm, even if it involved spending a wet bank holiday weekend in a faded overpriced B&B 
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I've seen it said online by EDI route development employees that 9 out of 10 passengers travelling to the US do so via a UK/European hub. It is this market that they are targeting by launching new US destinations.
LAX have also in the past issued a wish list of destinations they'd like to see served, with Scotland being one of those shortlisted. I think the most likely to operate that is probably Virgin, although they dont seem to be doing overly well at EDI at the moment, so I think expansion might be some way off.
I think the next US flight we will see will be AA rejoining the market, probably in 2 years time when they get the A321XLRs. Possibly Delta to Atlanta.
LAX have also in the past issued a wish list of destinations they'd like to see served, with Scotland being one of those shortlisted. I think the most likely to operate that is probably Virgin, although they dont seem to be doing overly well at EDI at the moment, so I think expansion might be some way off.
I think the next US flight we will see will be AA rejoining the market, probably in 2 years time when they get the A321XLRs. Possibly Delta to Atlanta.
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As much as a Dubai service would be nice, I'm sure we can find something of interest to travel or holiday in between Edinburgh's 34 countries served this summer direct without connecting anywhere