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Old 29th Mar 2024, 08:05
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Originally Posted by EXEL1966

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BOH simply has a far superior infrastructure and it's likely to get better whilst SOU has very little room for any serious and worthwhile expansion to it's. Location, Location, Location !
SOU wins that one hands down, close to two motorways, its own railway station with a two/three minute walk to the terminal and just over a hour to/from London. Compare that to BOH, out in the sticks and often a pig to get to by road during the summer due to holiday traffic.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 08:18
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
SOU wins that one hands down, close to two motorways, its own railway station with a two/three minute walk to the terminal and just over a hour to/from London. Compare that to BOH, out in the sticks and often a pig to get to by road during the summer due to holiday traffic.
TCAS FAN - the proximity to London is possibly the main reason all the advantages of SOU are not being realised. Heathrow is local to Southampton - just 60 mins drive time!
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 08:24
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Quite a few people would be happy to see both sold off if only to stop the ridiculous sniping on here between the two sets of fan boys.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 08:36
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
SOU wins that one hands down, close to two motorways, its own railway station with a two/three minute walk to the terminal and just over a hour to/from London. Compare that to BOH, out in the sticks and often a pig to get to by road during the summer due to holiday traffic.
Yet one is prospering and one isn’t despite an investment. Just goes to show that location, location, location seems to count for very little when there are other factors at play.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 08:52
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Yet one is prospering and one isn’t despite an investment. Just goes to show that location, location, location seems to count for very little when there are other factors at play.
Yes the location and transport links are superb at SOU,but if you can't attract airlines due to airport and operational restrictions then they are of no advantage.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 08:59
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Yes the location and transport links are superb at SOU,but if you can't attract airlines due to airport and operational restrictions then they are of no advantage.
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I would agree with the suggestion above in a previous post that the location of Southampton is negatively impacted by being so close to Heathrow.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 09:01
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Please stop now, this thread is becoming unreadable!
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 09:08
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Its like Aston Villa fans sniping at Birmingham City fans.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 09:10
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Confirmation bias at play - on both sides perhaps

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Old 29th Mar 2024, 09:12
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Apart from a little playground bickering on here (giggles) it must be said that the reason SOU has had far more comments than BOH on Pprune is that there is simply more news!
(both positive and negative) >>>

Flybe - closed down, Flybe V2 stop-start, Covid, Runway extension planning delays, tree obstacle planning issues, airport operational restrictions. BA Cityflyer stop-start, then their new routes canned before start up etc etc. Runway Extension finally opens. Lack of local advertising of new airlines and routes...Dramas with Eastern and Loganair. New Ops Director comes, then leaves...
Southampton transport connections, and being impacted by both Heathrow and Bournemouth.
I could go on and on.

With Jet2 and TUI both going head to head at BOH next summer with 4 or 5 based 737-800's there selling package holidays (plus Ryanair strongly increasing their schedules/routes and it's based aircraft) leaps BOH into a league of the likes it has never seen before.

BOH in summer 2025 will be 'Holiday Airport Central', and that's what they do.

We are where we are now at with SOU and what happens next, is pivotal for the future of the airport.


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Old 29th Mar 2024, 09:17
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Where is Rivet Joint when you need them?
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 09:22
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Room for both….
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 10:04
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In hospital recovering from shock after having delusional thoughts over the last couple of years that haven’t come true. Get well soon Rivet Joint, as I miss your insults to posters on this thread that don’t share your narrative.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 10:13
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In hospital recovering from shock after having delusional thoughts over the last couple of years that haven’t come true. Get well soon as I miss your insults to posters on this thread that don’t share your narrative.
LOL, I've seen far worse flying across the boards from posters on Jet Blast, and on the 'Downunder' threads!
He's a pussycat compared to some of them
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 10:24
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Originally Posted by rog747
LOL, I've seen far worse flying across the boards from posters on Jet Blast, and on the 'Downunder' threads!
He's a pussycat compared to some of them
He or she… do we know?
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 11:47
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Originally Posted by andymartin
Why don't they just tarmac SOU over and use it for long term parking for the ever increasingly busy BOH?
With a question mark attached to the end of your sentence your clearly asking a "question".

A ridiculous one at that. Best keep those thoughts to yourself rather than pose them here on the SOU thread.
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 12:06
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Originally Posted by LTNman
In hospital recovering from shock after having delusional thoughts over the last couple of years that haven’t come true. Get well soon Rivet Joint, as I miss your insults to posters on this thread that don’t share your narrative.
Nicely put
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 14:32
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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
The longer the runway at Southampton, the more pointless it becomes as it puts it in direct conflict with Heathrow. The height at which aircraft can approach Southampton is even restricted as a result of its unfortunate geography. In most countries a one hour drive up the road is considered acceptable drive time to a local airport. Heathrow is Southampton's de facto local airport. The City of Southampton itself must benefit from the proximity of Heathrow, just look at the cruise port and the accessibility from London and how it is thriving. This is nor mere coincidence. As long as Heathrow remains up the road, Southampton will be capped. Southampton's sweet spot is exactly as other posters have intimated - a small regional high frequency affluent type airport. Like London City, Like Belfast City. It is not a Luton or a Bristol and never will be. I would argue the airport would make more money by focusing on this strategy instead of the low cost airlines which don't pay airports anything!!
Yes, Heathrow is very close I pop-up there to pick-up friends relatives from time-to-time. I live approximately 6-miles north of SOU airport and the drive from home to Heathrow is usually around 50-55 minutes, that's home to the short-stay car parks.

In fact, I remember reading an article about the Southampton-born musician Craig David in an American magazine and it stated that he hailed from the 'London coastal suburb of Southampton!'
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 14:37
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a small regional high frequency affluent type airport. Like London City, Like Belfast City. It is not a Luton or a Bristol and never will be. I would argue the airport would make more money by focusing on this strategy instead of the low cost airlines which don't pay airports anything!!
But can they make money with this strategy?
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 14:42
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
SOU wins that one hands down, close to two motorways, its own railway station with a two/three minute walk to the terminal and just over a hour to/from London. Compare that to BOH, out in the sticks and often a pig to get to by road during the summer due to holiday traffic.
Yes it has motorways and a train station, but I don't see many aircraft being able to make use of those ;-)

BOH wins by a mile because it has airport infrastructure, a longer runway, superior ILS, larger aprons, hangarage, maintenance facilities, better operating hours and importantly further room to expand air/non-airside facilities and it works better that it's further away from LGW/LHR.
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